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Saudi Webmaster Acquitted of Terrorism Charges

terrymr writes "Saudi Student Sami Omar Al-Hussayen was found not guilty on charges that he 'rendered techical assistance to terrorists' by acting as the webmaster for an Islamic charity. Said one juror: 'The part that surprised me was when I read the First Amendment instructions. I was surprised to learn that people could say whatever they want... providing it would not cause imminent action.'" You might remember our previous coverage of this story. In addition, the AP (via CNN) has more information as well.

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  1. Saudi + Islamic Militant == GUILTY by quarkscat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This "webmaster/terrorist" is one of the
    cast of thousands that provide aid and
    comfort to world Islamic terrorism. It
    is a travesty of justice for him to be
    found innocent. GWB & Co. have a much
    bigger problem in the ME than just Iraq.

    The Western economies have been dancing with
    the devil ever since oil was discovered and
    developed in Saudi Arabia. Providing the House
    of Saud with the economic and military might
    to control their patch of the Middle Eastern
    sandbox has been a gamble that has powered the
    devil's work.

    This closed theocratic society worships death.
    There is no tolerance in the Wahhabist sect for
    Western ideals, let alone other schisms of Islam.
    Anyone not a Wahhabist is considered an infidel,
    worthy only of either conversion or death. They
    have raised an army of martyrs who seek the
    rewards of an afterlife filled with pleasures
    unattainable and antithetical to this lifetime.
    The Wahhabist inspiration is the imperial Islam
    of the 12th century, which controlled Europe from
    the Atlantic south of the Pyrenees, north to the
    gates of Vienna, east to the Great Wall of China,
    and made the Mediterranean a Moslem sea.

    Their control of Mecca and Medina, the heart of
    Islam, has been used, along with their vast oil
    wealth, to propagate their religious beliefs
    throughout the rest of the world. The mosques and
    religious schools that they built abroad as "works
    of charity" have been used as the training ground
    and recruiting centers for their war against
    all other religions. It is Wahhabist clerics
    that lead these centers, funded by Saudi Arabian
    oil money.

    The current wave of terrorism within Saudi
    Arabia has been directed primarily against
    Westerners, and it's largest impact has been
    a spike in oil prices (more funding for their terrorists). Saudi victims of these attacks
    cannot be considered "collateral damage" in
    the Western sense, but martyrs to the cause. Cynical consideration of the Wahhabist culture
    of death and empire in assessing these
    terrorist acts could draw one to conclude that
    it is little more than "good theater", and propaganda meant for the West.

    Our leaders would do well to consider the
    possibility that al-Queda is little more
    than a not-so-secret Wahhabist army, a
    Saudi Arabian OSS with plenty of "plausible
    deniability" for the gullible West.

  2. Re:First Amendment Message? by mckyj57 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    > In today's America, there are a few who seem to have the idea of EWI:
    > Existing While Islamic. Well, sorry, but Islam is not the problem here,
    > it is extremism. Extremists are the dangeous ones. But hey, let's forget
    > about that and find ways to trash the Constitution, shall we? ...sigh...

    When over 40% of the world's Muslims support Sharia law (which features the
    death penalty for apostasy) it isn't extremism, it is the norm.

    Fact: Muslims shun any of themselves who professes doubt in their belief
    system, and this shunning is extreme and cruel within a society that is
    majority Islamic.

    That is an entire religion that is dead-set against individual rights.
    It is perverted, and not at the extremes -- at the center.

  3. RTFA's by TeknoDragon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The charges were "Providing Material Support to Terrorists", he was also acquitted of 2 counts of visa fraud, 1 count of making false statements... but there was a hung jury on 8 other charges that could probably get him deported.

    Considering that they successfully deported his wife and child BEFORE the trial began AND the defense only got all of the evidence they needed WEEKS before the trial began they did a fine job.

    I've been following this in the Idaho and Spokane papers for a while.

  4. Re:First Amendment Message? by ffsnjb · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why do religious institutions not have to pay land tax on valuable real estate, but I pay a lot of taxes every year on real estate. Most of them are corporations, they should pay the equivalent real estate tax for the land they use. Allowing religious institutions to skip taxes is in effect respecting an establishment of religion. If the donating members of that institution feel it should exist, they'll donate enough to cover real estate tax, or it's not valuable enough to society in general to allow the institution to continue in existence.

    Besides, the government only makes us pay taxes because we've granted them that power. We can revoke it at any time with sufficient will of the people (I'm assuming you live in the US; assumption is the mother of all fuckups, however). The first tax issue I'd solve is the abolishment of the individual income tax. We allow corporations to exist by granting them their charters. By granting them their charters, we essentially are building a machine to generate revenue for the government. Tax the corporations fairly, and show slight restraint in spending, and you can get rid of personal income taxes completely. Yes, I've done the math for a 10% corporate tax on gross revenue, it works out really well.

    You serve me no purpose and you're using valuable air. Please go away or pay more taxes to exist :p
    I probably paid more in taxes last year than you have in the last 5. I don't want to get in a pissing match here, though. It's pointless unless we know each other's financial situation.

    --
    "Why do you consent to live in ignorance and fear?" - Bad Religion
  5. Nice grouping by Rayonic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Every generation has a group to hate/fear. Hundreds of years ago it was witches. Our parents' generation feared the communists, and now we have the terrorists.

    So, you're equating witches (fictional) with the communist threat (non-fictional) and terrorists (non-fictional)?

  6. Re:America by kraut · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    >We wonder why people think our government and political system are evil. We wonder why nobody trusts us.

    Basically, because the U.S. in public espouses democracy for all (good so far), while in practice supporting dictatorships (e.g. Saudi, Iraq until they invaded Kuweit, Nicaragua pre Sandinistas, ....), sponsors terrorism (e.g. the "contras"), helps overthrow democratically elected governments (Chile), supports regimes who torture (e.g. Turkey, at least in the past).

    If you act hypocritically, don't be surprised that people call you a hypocrite

    --
    no taxation without representation!
  7. Re:Islamic websites. by danharan · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Talk about dishonesty!

    This guy asks Dr. Badawi to respond to points if he comes across them. What ever happened to actually emailing or calling him? That Imam is not hard to reach; he teaches business and religion at St Mary's University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

    For it should be clear by now that simply to assert flatly that the Qur'an teaches peace isn't enough: the people who really need convincing aren't Western non-Muslims, but the radical Muslims who are convinced that it teaches violence.
    Wow, what a compelling argument! Which conveniently leaves out the fact that he teaches muslims every friday, and is constantly travelling around the world carrying that very message.

    There are a bunch of people trying to paint all of Islam as a violent religion without looking at all the facts. To advance their arguments serves no purpose but to further confuse people and promote hate.
    --
    Information: "I want to be anthropomorphized"
  8. Re:It's amazing how much jurors do not know by lobsterGun · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What color is the sky in your world?

    Why don't you do everyone a favor and go practice spilling that 100% pure HCL on yourself.