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Charles Walton, the Father of RFID

Roland Piquepaille writes "In a very interesting article, the San Jose Mercury News tells us about Charles Walton, the man behind the radio frequency identification technology (RFID). Since his first patent about it in 1973, Walton, now 83 years old, collected about $3 million from royalties coming from his patents. Unfortunately for him, his latest patent about RFID expired in the mid-1990s. So he will not make any money from the billions of RFID tags that will appear in the years to come. But he continues to invent and his latest patent about a proximity card with incorporated PIN code protection was granted in June 2004. Maybe he'll be luckier with this one. This overview contains some excerpts of the original article. It also contains tips to search for Walton's patents and an image of the front page of his first patent."

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  1. Patents and Privacy by Webmoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frankly, this is one patent that wouldn't bother me had it not expired.

    Were licensing fees prohibitive for mass-scale introduction of RFID tags, personal privacy would be safer.

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    1. Re:Patents and Privacy by guido1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Were licensing fees prohibitive for mass-scale introduction of RFID tags, personal privacy would be safer.

      What would the patent holder have gained by making them prohibitive? Had his patent not expired, the only difference is he would have been richer. I'm sure the technology would still have been used... (Unless this guy is truly altruistic.)

    2. Re:Patents and Privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The retard parade marches on.

      There are serious economic advantages to be had using RFID chips in many applications that are not end-user related. Get over yourself, no one cares about your pathetic little life posting a +5 karma whoring on Slashdot with its tired privacy rhetoric, even if you did have an RFID tag in your keyboard.

    3. Re:Patents and Privacy by blueskies · · Score: 3, Interesting
      "Were licensing fees prohibitive for mass-scale introduction of RFID tags, personal privacy would be safer."
      ROTFLMFAO

      Because licensing would prevent what exactly? Identity theift? The fact that credit card companies and banks collect information on me? Would it stop websites from cookie-ing my browser? People spying through my windows? Eliminate the need for my tinfoil hat?

      Have you any clue about the signal strength of passive rfid tags, which i'm assuming you're talking about? They are powered by a tag reader that is required to keep it's output power underneath FCC standards and then they transmit back using the power provided by that reader. How hard exactly do you think it would be to jam the readers from hearing a reply from these unpowered tags?

      Ok, that felt better. +5 for being insightful? Anyway, with all of that out of the way, there are some privacy issues involved but to make it a black and white case that RFID tags are EVIL is the kind of overgeneraliztions used by karma whores on slashdot...oh.....
  2. Time to get lucky by lockefire · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe he'll be luckier with this one.

    At 83, I don't think he is really that interested in the monetary aspects of the invention process.

    1. Re:Time to get lucky by happyfrogcow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      good troll. i bit.

      no where did it say "He was unlucky to have made $3M" or "It was his misfortune that he only made $3M"

      get off your anti-american high horse.

      the only thing i think is odd, is that it says (to paraphrase) "maybe he'll be luckier". however, maybe it wasn't bad luck that his patents expired shortly before RFID starts it's boom. Maybe RFID is on the rise because his patent expired. If that is the case, then to me it says that this Walton person wanted too much in terms of licensing pay, or wanted to much to be bought out. He could have capitolized(sp?) but didn't?

      who knows. you are a troll either way, and i feel dirty for feeding you.

  3. Maybe that's WHY they are in widespread use... by greenfly · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It seems to me that maybe one of the reasons RFID tags are in such widespread use now is the fact that the patent did expire so other companies were free to implement their own uses for it. He got $3 million, which isn't bad, and now it goes into the public domain, as it should.

    This is why we have patents, everyone is just so used to predatory patents nowadays that someone not making money hand-over-fist from a patent seems strange.

    1. Re:Maybe that's WHY they are in widespread use... by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It seems to me that maybe one of the reasons RFID tags are in such widespread use now is the fact that the patent did expire so other companies were free to implement their own uses for it.

      Nah, they are in widespread use because there is now more technology to read them. People are less aware and disgusted by intrusive technology (some even think it's fucking good for them -- ooh, but the ones inbedded in tires will make our roads safer w/o us having to actually have real police out there patroling!)

      The only way that the public will revolt against instrusive technologies is if it somehow keeps them from watching Survivor.

    2. Re:Maybe that's WHY they are in widespread use... by metlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly!

      And this is how patents should be, IMHO.

      The inventor gets a fair benefit out of his invention, while the rest can explore and make use of it to everyone else's (and their) benefit down the line.

      These days, patents seem to exhibit the idea that the inventor should get a cut for every penny that's been made out of his/her invention. If this were the case, civilization would have long stalled.

      The ideal patent would be one where the inventor gets a fair benefit, and others can have a free go at the invention so that they can improvise and better it for everyone else.

      I do not see why he should be worried, especially since he's made enough already.

    3. Re:Maybe that's WHY they are in widespread use... by metlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Heh! How true.

      Ironic, isn't it? People do not seem to notice or care when their privacy or rights are being violated.

      However, they do not hesitate to show their pretentious moral indignation at the slightest opportunity of things that should not even bother them (ah, a certain nipple incident comes to mind).

      RFIDs maybe good for some applications, but down the line, when you have a quintillion things tracking you you can kiss whatever little privacy you have goodbye.

      As it is, our habits are being tracked, our browsing habits are being tracked and we have cams everywhere. RFID is only going to make it easier for the powers-that-be to watch us and control.

      And honestly, I would not be surprised when RFIDs are in place, some act will be passed that will make simply take advantage of this to exploit whatever little rights we have.

      And when they do pass a law that says

      "Henceforth, all humans should walk around with an embedded trackable microchip.

      people will not bat an eyelid and obey it. Trust me, it will happen.

  4. His famous quote from when RFID was first used by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I am become death, the tracker of products."

    We can't put the genie back in the bottle.

  5. Luckier!? by the_mad_poster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He made three million dollars. I should be 1/2 as lucky as him..... sheesh

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    1. Re:Luckier!? by edsarkiss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      he made $3 Million on the patent over the course of 30 years. $100K per year isn't going to make anyone who lives in Los Gatos, CA rich.

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  6. at 83, money is more important than luck by John_Sauter · · Score: 4, Funny
    At 83, I don't think he is really that interested in the monetary aspects of the invention process.
    I beg to disagree. As you get older, the cost of female companionship goes up.
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  7. I Seriously Doubt That Man Invented the RFID by John_Booty · · Score: 4, Funny

    He has a patent for it, after all. And we all know that the US Parent Office only grants patents when there are clear examples of existing prior art, right? Think about it!

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    1. Re:I Seriously Doubt That Man Invented the RFID by tsg · · Score: 2, Informative

      In most countries, an idea has to be "not obvious to anyone appropriately skilled in the relevant art or technology" to be patentable - Does America not have such a clause, or do they not have anyone skilled in any art or technology?

      The current procedure in the USPTO is to grant the patent and let someone else prove its invalid.

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    2. Re:I Seriously Doubt That Man Invented the RFID by John_Booty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A patent all depends on how broad you make the claims, but the first thing I thought of is the aircraft IFF [dean-boys.com] (identification friend or foe) transponder which dates back to WWar II. A radio signal is sent out to an aircraft and an identification is returned - definitely 'rfid' on an airspace scale.

      What's unique about RFID is that the responding device (ie, the RFID tag on your clothes, or your Mobil Speedpass keychain, or your FreedomPay tag) isn't self-powered. Most RFID chips have no internal power source; they get their power from the RF waves broadcast from the RFID reader. The power from the RF waves powers the RFID chip long enough for the chip to power up, and broadcast a reply to the RFID reader's query.

      Now that's cool. And it's also what makes them so low-cost and useful (for good and bad). You can literally print those RFID tags; no need to include a battery.

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    3. Re:I Seriously Doubt That Man Invented the RFID by kharchenko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How about the Great Seal Bug used by the soviets ?
      It was passive, and had to be illuminated by a certain frequencey to work. It was used for more than ID purposes though :)

  8. privacy, schmivacy by surreal-maitland · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i don't understand the big fear of lack of privacy due to RFID tags. capitalism just takes care of it. if enough people don't want their location known, there will be a market for clothing, etc that does not have RFID tags embedded in it. the government's never going to say (knock on wood) that all clothes or shoes or whatever must have RFID tags, so it's really not something to worry about.

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    1. Re:privacy, schmivacy by happyfrogcow · · Score: 2

      i have no problem with an RFID tag on a product if it

      1) displays a label saying "this product has an RFID tag", prior to purchasing
      and
      2a) is removed at the time of purchasing -or-
      2b) is easily removable after purchasing and doesn't void a warranty. (by easily, i mean no tools needed, just my two hands, or even no hands. hell if i can remove it with my toes, then it's easily removeable)
      3) I can find out what information it is carrying.
      4) no information is tied to me or my financial accounts.

      if they want to find out that people are buying beer on thursdays in my zip code that's fine. any further and you've gone too far.

      #3 is key. if i can't have #3 then they could just lie about the rest.

    2. Re:privacy, schmivacy by molarmass192 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ahhh ... that's where you're neglecting a key piece of information. For capitalism to work as per the definition of capitalism, consumers must be "perfectly informed". Companies have a vested interest in keeping the consumer under-informed when it comes to RFID. The solution is for the government to mandate a warning tag like the warnings on cigarette boxes. Then capitalism would decide if RFID lives or dies. Something like, "WARNING: This product contains an chip that publically broadcasts your private usage of this product.". Anyhow, I've got a microwave, nothing 15 seconds in there won't fix.

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    3. Re:privacy, schmivacy by thadman08 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, #3 isn't too big of a concern.

      The RFID contains NO information other than its own ID. Anything that obtains/reads that ID still has to hook into some database that contains the list of previous actions using that ID.

      So, really, the privacy issue in that regard isn't that bad.

    4. Re:privacy, schmivacy by surreal-maitland · · Score: 2
      perhaps your last comment about the microwave is the best reason not to be worried about RFID. granted, you can't stick your tires in there . . .

      to address your other point, though, about being informed: it can go both ways. look for example at the organic foods market. consumers are uninformed about what goes into their food so they say, 'aha! i want to know exactly what's in my food and i want to be able to pronounce it!' thus a whole new aisle at the grocery store appears. same thing applies here. companies can advertise 'absolutely NO electronics in our clothes, just pure hemp.' and the crowd goes wild!

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    5. Re:privacy, schmivacy by blueskies · · Score: 2

      Well, #4 is just as possible with barcodes. What if you buy a gatorade or soda at a store with your credit card and someone shoots a laser across the street and views the barcode on your gaterade or soda?

      RFID == barcodes.

      The only difference is you can read the tag using radio waves instead of a laser. Have you any idea of the ranges involved with reading these tags? They are usually measured in feet not yards to put it in perspective. Maybe someday they will each be battery powered so they can transmit on their own power, but not for a long time. Lots of money is being developed for unpowered, "passive" tags.

      The only information they can tie to these tags is *gasp* information you have already given to them in one form or another! If you give them your finanicial information then i'm sure they can use the RFID tag you purchased as a key into a database if they were really so inclinded.

      Generally the only information that is going to be tied to the tag is that your bag of Meow Mix was manufactured in a plant in Mexico on May 25th.

      Big deal!

  9. Jeez... by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 2

    This guy came up with RFIDs... You'd think he'd be a lifelong enemy of the slashdot tin-foil hat crowd.

  10. Patents, copyrights, and money. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Slightly off topics, but the poor ($ and luck) bastard invents something useful and the patent expires, Disney makes some cartoons, bribes some congressmen, and gets to keep the things in copyright forever.

  11. Disc Golf by Squareball · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I want these tags on me Disc Golf discs! I lose to many and at $10 a pop it gets expensive. Just wonder if they are small enought to be embedded in the discs. Then we just need a hand held locator to find them with.

    1. Re:Disc Golf by MogwaiJeeper · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are lots of things like this that RFID would be good for... imagine being able to tell the position of you golf ball without having to go looking around for it, or a way to go to a driving range with your OWN balls and get them all back at the end of the day...

      Bowling alleys do their get a strike when the head (#1) pin is a different color... they could use RFID so they can accurately track it and set off some reminder so the person knows to collect on their free game and so people don't try to scam the bowling alley out of free games.

      Places that rent equipment could actually use decent stuff without having to worry about it walking out. Since the tag is embedded, people wouldn't be able to just yank it off without destroying the intrinsic value of the piece of equipment itself. And the rental place could do an inventory with just a quick wave of a sensor through their shelves. Imagine an ice rink system where blade sharpenings are tracked by RFID and they can go at a moment's notice and pick up any skates that have not had their blades sharpened in 15 days and sharpen them, scan them, and put them back on the shelf. Then, if someone brought back a pair that they said were dull, the counter-biscuit could use a computer to find the theoretically sharpest pair available in a given size.

      Slot car racing could be tracked more closely to determine a real winner. Set the RFID in the same relative location in each car (front bumper?) and then track when it crosses a certain point... It should be very easy with simple triangulation. Using that same technology, you could record the entire race and then play it back using a renderer to let racers watch their driving from a cockpit view!

      Hell, any sport where tracking the location of an object would be valuable would benefit. Ping pong, shuffleboard (the table-top variety), air hockey... You can make sure people aren't cheating and verify the actions that take place down to the nanometer if you configure your sensors accurately enough.

      I'm sure there are other great uses for RFID tags.. prisons. I'd sure love it if they could put an RFID tag in every inbound prisoner and deactivate it permanently when the prisoner leaves. They could know, at a moment's notice, if a prisoner was somewhere they weren't supposed to be. Pets are already implanted with RFID tags to positively identify them if they are found. Military personnel could be implanted with RFID tags and any heat signature that did not correspond with an appropriate RFID signature could be immediately investigated for trespassers/spies... of course, it would have to be deactivated once active service had been terminated...

      Think of all the positive uses. RFID is not an EVIL technology. It has some evil applications, tracking purchasing habits, etc... but saying that it is evil in and of itself is about as intelligent as saying that guns are evil.

  12. another one gets past the PTO by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Insightful
    his latest patent about a proximity card with incorporated PIN code protection was granted in June 2004

    OK, RFID is an invention, I'll grant that. And I'll not get into the endless debate over the good and evil of it. But given the RFID is over 20 years old, what part of a proximity card with incorporated PIN code isn't so obvious and apparent to the average engineer that it should qualify for a patent? And isn't there plenty of prior art?

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  13. just maybe... by mobiux · · Score: 3, Insightful

    this should be used as a perfect example of how patents are supposed to work?

    You make your money off it, then it is released to the public domain for the common good? (although that "good" part may be questioned by some in this case)

  14. RSA made little money, as well... by GPLDAN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Go ask Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir, and Leonard Adleman about making money from patents. they hardly cashed in on what was one of the net's most successful algorithms. Multiplying large primes was an important breakthrough in cryptography, I think Schnier states this in one of his diatribes.

    The point is, if society doesn't use your invention en masse until after the patent expires, it's not a reason to extend patents any further than they already are.

    Look, almost everyone on Slashdot and the technical media agree, the patent system is horribly broken and corrupted. For every story on the guy who ONLY made $3M on RFID, there are many more stories of bullshit patents on spellcheckers or the use of cookies in browsers to shop (the Bezos debacle) and a million other reasons not to hear the sob story and say "damn, he should be rich(er) but he's not!"

  15. Walton by ianmalcm · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A Walton patented RFID, another Walton wants to require all distributors to use the technology.

    Coincidence?

    Side note: maybe Disney and the entertainment industry could take a hint and continuously invent new stuff like Charles Walton, rather than lobby to extend the copyright timeframe every few years.

  16. wouldn't make a difference by John+Harrison · · Score: 4, Informative
    The cost of making the antenna is the largest factor in the price of the simplest RFID tags. The industry is pretty close to the elusive 5 cent tag, which has been the holy grail for some time. It is improved technology (as opposed to expiring patents) that has lead to the reduction in cost over time.

    Were the patent still in force he could charge less than a penny per tag and he would still get rich (there will be billions and billions of tags) and the cost wouldn't be prohibitive.

    If he insisted on a high fee, such as a dollar per tag that would certainly slow the adoption of the technology, but why would he do that?

    In the end the market would have dictated the price and it would be low in order to allow adoption of the technology and maximize his profit. In that case, what you are saying would not be any more applicable than it is today.

  17. I agree by Mz6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What's the use of extending patents beyond their current lifespan? If the invention is great enough it will make the inventor enough money from it's licensing.

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  18. RSA didn't make the breakthrough... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, hate to break it to you but the cryptography "breakthroughs" by Rivest, Shamir and Adleman weren't breakthroughs at all. The people who first discovered how to multiply large primes, etc were the scientists at Bletchley Park during World War Two.

    Unfortunately, the British government classified all of their work and, after the war, destroyed virtually every record of what went on at Bletchley. However, it's clear from recent (last twenty years) interviews with some of the cryptographers who worked there that their pioneering work in code breaking covered what we today refer to as RSA encryption and a whole lot more.

    So, in RSA's case, there was prior art but that prior art was kept a secret because of national security concerns.

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    1. Re:RSA didn't make the breakthrough... by ninewands · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Quoth the poster:
      So, in RSA's case, there was prior art but that prior art was kept a secret because of national security concerns.

      So you have a problem with RSA getting a patent on something that was discovered earlier and not only not disclosed, but actively hidden by the British government?? I don't ...

      I have a problem with the fact that RSA got a patent for technology that they developed while conducting cryptographic research under a government contract! Not RSA's fault ... they acted rationally ... it's the government's fault for not drafting a better contract. However, either way, "We the People" wound up paying twice for the research results we should have owned.
  19. more like WHY all patents should be dead by argoff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So what you're saying is this guy held up a multi billion dollar industry for twenty years for the sake of 3 million in royalities. If anything, this is a great example of why patents are so evil.

    By delaying 20 years, I would bet the guy has easially lost more than 3 million in opportunity costs anyhow - and does he deserve that amount if someone else would have invented the same thing anyhow a month after he did?

    1. Re:more like WHY all patents should be dead by MntlChaos · · Score: 2
      So what you're saying is this guy held up a multi billion dollar industry for twenty years for the sake of 3 million in royalities. If anything, this is a great example of why patents are so evil.

      RFID is coming into use now because
      • manufacturing costs are down
      • Microchip technology has improved, making them smaller
      • Computer technology has improved, making them more useful.
      Those seem to be mor pressing reasons than royalties for why RFID is just starting to come into use. Besides, wouldn't we have seen a big surge just when the patent expired to use RFID?
  20. RFID Patents...current happenings by ChromDome · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Last week, Intermec filed suit against Matrics over RFID Patent Infringment. Intermec owns a WIDE variety of patents in the RFID space that are very general in nature.

    For those of you who don't live in the RFID world...Matrics is the vendor who's hardware is being put into WalMart. Many insiders believe that Intermec's lawsuit was designed to poision the water around a possible acquistion of Matrics by one of Intermec's competitors. There is also a general train of thought that Intermec tactically blundered by moving too soon, they should have waited 6 more months for the RFID initiative within WalMart to really catch on before they hit the industry with royalties.

    http://www.computerworld.com/mobiletopics/mobile /t echnology/story/0,10801,93744,00.html

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  21. Re:another one gets past the PTO by Granos · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know about prior art, but the idea isn't half-bad. The patent describes a card that has an actual keypad on it, with the hash of the PIN number stored inside the card. You then input the PIN number on the card itself, and the hashes are compared. This enables data on the card to be read for some amount of time. It would be preferable to having to PIN/password on the reader for two reasons, the first is that you would only need one universal password for it to work everywhere, and the second is that the data on the card could be encrypted as a function of the hash of the PIN number.

  22. It's just a tool by mslinux · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I get so sick of people talking about how technology is bad.

    Technology is technology... it is not good or bad. OK?

    Men can use technology in good or bad ways. For example, an axe can chop down a tree or cut someone's head off. It's simply a piece of technology. Scissors can cut paper, they can also be jammed into someone's jugular vein. Nuclear energy provides power for business es and residents everywhere, it also can be used to blow up countries.

    Nothing personal, it's just technology. It's inanimate. It has no feelings. It doesn't care how it might be used. It's just there for use.

  23. It's not a matter of luck by emorphien · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe getting lucky in the sense he didn't make a buttload of cash. But RFID is going to be huge within 5 years. And when they can be printed in large quantities, it's going to be a booming industry.

    He was a visionary, perhaps, and like many the result of being way ahead of your time is a rather thin wallet.

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  24. Re:Notice how big this got AFTER the patent expire by argoff · · Score: 2, Insightful


    My thoughts exactly. A multibillion dollar industry is held up for twenty years with a technology that likely would have been invented anyhow - and I'm supposed to think patents are good for humanity? Sheesh, even the inventor has likley lost more than 3mil in opportunity costs.

  25. Delay in RFID NOT due to patent by PatHMV · · Score: 4, Informative

    Umpteen morons have posted so far claiming, without benefit of evidence, that RFID has only recently begun to be widely implemented because the patent expired. Baloney!

    Even the briefist of Google searches will show you that RFID implementation has been bogged down by 2 factors: sufficiently cheap manufacturing techniques and industry-wide standards for implementation / data encoding / frequency usage. It took bar codes decades to become ubiquitous, in part because of the same need for standard data dsecriptions that allow every product by every manufacturer to be given a unique bar code.

    See Frontline, and CSEMag.com, just to pick 2.

    The fact that this was patented had nothing to do with its lack of widespread use. Get a grip, people!

  26. Re:Notice how big this got AFTER the patent expire by Mikkeles · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, firstly: there are a lot of stupid inventions (e.g.: hat that spreads into an umbrella).
    Secondly: there are a lot of inventions that are developed based on previous ideas and are fully exploited (e.g.: paperclips - there are many designs, quite a few still being used).
    Thirdly: many inventions are innovative, but just not quite good enough to use (e.g.: the development of the zipper took several tries).
    Fourthly: The technology is often not good/economical enough in practice (e.g. Lilienfeld's invention of the field effect transistor in 1925 (patented in 1930).
    Finally: some inventions are so far advanced for the time that no one (other than the inventor) sees any realistic use for it (e.g. Babbage's analytical engine)

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  27. Privacy my ass. by FartingTowels · · Score: 2

    Get real, there are a few good things that come with rfids:
    - lower cost of manufacturing / transport,
    - greater safety in medical processes (including surgery and drugs dispensing),
    - lower maintenance costs of complex systems and installations,
    - better safety on the road (signs can carry a message that displays in your car the moment you pass it),
    - more acurate navigation,
    etc.
    Can rfid tags be used for bad things? Yes. But so can things we love: knives, dynamite and box cutters. Have fun.

  28. RFID & Part15 by dlmarti · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I still don't understand how you can base the life of your company on a device that operates under Part15 of the FCC rules.

    Lets say you run a business using a device that runs under part15. Then Joe Joes Auto Wrecker buys a licensed radio system on the same frequency. Your business is shut down with no recourse (SP?).

    This same thing happens with WIFI networks under part15. One day your network is fine, supporting hundreds of users, then one guy with a license moves in the area and your entire company network is done for. You can't even complain.

    We need to take a hard look at our spectrum use, part15 should be used for emerging technologies.

  29. I don't know. by Erris · · Score: 2, Insightful
    what part of a proximity card with incorporated PIN code isn't so obvious and apparent to the average engineer that it should qualify for a patent?

    You tell me. The idea is obvious but the implementation might not be.

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