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Turning Up The Heat On On-Line Registration

Saeed al-Sahaf writes "CNN is running a story on the growing number of print newspapers with on-line editions that are requiring registration. Apparently there are some folks out there who don't like this 'feature'! I found a few things interesting about the story: Privacy groups say it's a dangerous practice and promotes spam; I didn't realize people put real personal info into these things (110-year-old surgeons from Bulgaria named Mickey Mouse). About 15 to 20 percent of the registrations for the Philadelphia Inquirer turned out to be bogus, a figure that was much lower than I would have thought. Also mentioned in the story is a web site called BugMeNot.com, which lists 'communal' logins and passwords for on-line newspapers."

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  1. The day they started subscriptions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The day the online LA Times started requiring subscriptions... ...I stopped reading the LA Times online.

    The day the online Washington Post started requiring subscriptions... ...I stopped reading the Washington Post online.

    Luckily, the NYTimes didn't require a valid email, once upon a time...

    There are still enough free sources of news on the Internet-- if some papers want to cut down on their advertising exposure and online circulation, fine. Screw 'em. There is no reason they need my name to send me their news and ads.

  2. slashdot logins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    slashdot
    slashdot

    Works on quite a few sites.

  3. Newspapers should consider this by B.D.Mills · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When the latest movie hits the cinemas, you have to pay $10 to $15 (depending on currency) per viewing. If you're prepared to wait six months, you can rent it for $5 and view it a couple of times. If you wait a year, you can get it as a weekly video for less. If you're prepared to wait a couple of years, you can see that same movie for free when it is on TV.

    The longer you're prepared to wait, the less it costs.

    Newspapers should do the same thing. Keep the online edition free, and have no soul-sucking registration to view, but only allow the viewing of articles from non-current newspapers. The online edition would then become a free archive service. People who want today's news can buy today's newspaper, or wait a day or two when it's posted online.

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  4. Re:I'm disappointed in Taco by boaworm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was a bit disappointed with the bugmenot-feature. I tought it would bring me right onto the site in some form of frame so I could be ready to surf right away. Now I have to type the newspaper URL atleast twice, copy/pate'ing the user/password.

    Make it a frame, parse some HTML to allow one-click-login, add a banner to finance the bandwidth, and you should be all set.

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  5. Re:tagging email addresses by timmyf2371 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Whenever I register for any online site or service, I use a custom email address. I have my own domain name which I have unlimited aliases for - they all go into the same POP3 mailbox, but based on the address I can detect and block any site which spams/gives my email address out.

    ie, my amazon account is registered to amazon@domain.co.uk and my slashdot account is registered to slashdot@domain.co.uk

    Anyone who decides to spam me or give out or sell my email address will be found.

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  6. It's Google's fault by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google apparently cuts deals with sites so that Google's crawler can read them, while others can't. Those sites show as "(subscription)" in Google News. If Google took the position that "if we can't get in as a normal user, we won't index it", this "registration" thing would stop.

    1. Re:It's Google's fault by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is one of my pet peeves with news.google.com.

      I go to look at what is happening in the world. I see a story that catches my eye, so I pop it into a new tab. Repeat a few times.

      Now, start looking over the tabs. Register. Register. Register.

      Sod you. Sod you. Sod you. (The Brits have a really great term here, esp. if you understand the derivation - I was amused that they let Spike say "Sod this" several times on Angel and Buffy....)

      I'd like to be able to tell news.google.com "Look, if I have to register to see it, don't even bother me with it."

      Sorry folks - while as a content provider you have every right to require me to register to see your content, it is DAMN CRASS of you to lead me on by getting linked from a search engine. It would be like the folks in the stores with the trays of samples offering you a sample then saying "Oh, by the way, you have to have a FooMart Plus Loyalty Card to get a sample."

      And whilst I am ranting - has anybody else noticed the number of sites that use Javascript and "hide" the story from plain old HTML (by using <div type=hidden> tags)? Once again, they get a big "Sod you with an arc welder" from me.

  7. Re:I'm disappointed in Taco by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A mozilla/firefox plugin that checked against an autogenerated file from their site could be a fun project sometime too.

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  8. Think that's bad, imagine the poor schmoes at asdf by _KiTA_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    http://asdf.com/asdfemail.html

    Ow. I'd hate to see their mail inboxes.

  9. Losing Free Publicity by yintercept · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think it is great that different newspapers try different things. It gives us a chance to see what works and what fails.

    It seems to me that newspapers lose more for requiring registration than they get from that little bit of demographic information.

    Newspapers that require registration end up losing boat loads of traffic from search engines and they tend to lose the valuable backward links for article citations in blogs and what not.

    In the long run, of course, the most successful format for online news would be the hybrid model that gives some features for paying, others for free registration and has a good amount of info available for free to build and maintain casual web traffic.

  10. Re:BugMeNot days numbered? by vehn23 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll never understand the business model of a newspaper that puts its articles on their website. How the heck do they expect to make money from this? Cause its not from people clicking on their 2"x1" Tiffany's ad or from the inevitable spam people get when they like, actually use their real info when registering.

  11. Newspapers could fight back by blastedtokyo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If the newspapers wanted to fight fake registrations, they could easily have a script modify the content that the user would see.

    For instance, they might show ridiculously ad-ridden pages (with a 2 minute DHTML/flash/full screen "click to continue to article" ads) for those with bogus registrations (based on a bad email address). They could do anything from showing non-updated (day old) news or, at worst, add "not" after every "was" or "had" and completely throw the reader for a loop. Of course in the last case, they'd probably need to modify their logo/title to show that it was no longer their newspaper to maintain their credibility.

    The technology to do this is trivial. If the day comes when a falsely-registered user is worth less to the site (because of advertiser's refusals to pay) than non-readers, I could very well see this happening.

  12. The Guy Who Delivers Your Paper Already Knows by reallocate · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why does online registration offend, but not offline?

    Why so much angst about online newspaper reigstration when we've been providing the same information to the same newspapers for years when we get a paid subsription to the dead-tree version?

    The same info gets collected and entered into the paper's databases.

    Why is providing a (real) name and address so someone can deliver your subscription not a privacy issue, but everyone gets hysterical about keying the same info into on web form?

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