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Winning Critical Acclaim

Alex Reynolds writes "'Are pop critics doing a good job? What does it mean to do a good job as a pop music critic? What is the difference between good and bad pop music criticism?' Loren Jan Wilson's innovative Pitchformula project takes the archives of music criticism and journalism from the popular Pitchfork web site and analyses them for commonalities in content, determining what attributes make for a 'good' or 'bad' evaluation. From this data, Wilson sculpted his compositional and performance technique to write rock music that should win critical acclaim."

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  1. pop != rock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is the difference between good and bad pop music criticism? ... From this data, Wilson sculpted his compositional and performance technique to write rock music that should win critical acclaim.

    Anyone else see the problem here?

  2. Why I care... by Alex+Reynolds · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As a freelance music writer, I care to some degree that my kind of writing can be reduced to this. His work provides some perspective, something I can use to step back and evaluate what I do. Am I a shill or doing something useful?

    Outside of this, I find his work is a funny and insightful commentary on how the whole flow of media and information can fold back in on itself in an unexpected way. Metameta, baby.

  3. My Opinion by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mod me down if you will, I know it is slightly offtopic, but I think the majority of people involved with the music business do a much much worse job than they could.
    They are driven (not that I can really blame them) by profit.
    The artists themselves write terrible songs (look at 'Frankee's song in reply to Eamon's song - how many of us could write lyrics to another song? Exactly, pretty much everyone - It's not challenging, and her lyrics are pretty damn bad too). The critics don't really care who ends up number one, or who doesn't even enter the charts, they care about money. Just like Microsoft, and look where that got them (yeah, they may be rich, but they're hated by a lot of people).

    Musicians, Footballers, Actors, etc. They all make massive amounts of money for things which contribute almost nothing to the evolution and development of mankind. Now look at people like nurses, firemen, teachers, etc. We (at least here in britain) often hear about them going on stike because of low pay, yet they contribute a great deal to mankind.

    The whole monetary system is really messed up.
    If we sorted it out, we might see some musicians and critics who work hard at their job.


    Disclaimer: I love music, couldn't live without it, and I think a lot of artists do a great job, but I stand by my point. They should get paid the same, if not less than people who actually do the world good.

  4. Basically by jfdawes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This guy is saying for the most part society in general is pretty damn predictable and if you know how you can produce something that is "pleasant". i.e. it fits well within the mainstream and can be said to have some mildly controversial elements (ha! controversational) while not really offending anybody.

    Essentially you can bank on being able to sell something if you're prepared to make pap. Is it any sort of news that tastes in music can be estimated as easily as tastes in food?

    McDonalds anyone?

  5. Re:...Like Dancing About Architecture by ziggy_zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You should especially take Pitchfork reviews with a grain of salt.

    Many of the reviewers there have vastly different opinions of many artists, and many have the typical indie rock prick mindset of "the more obscure it is the better". And the 10 point and single decimal scale has always irked me. What the fuck is the difference between a 6.7 album and a 7.3 album?

    I like the reviews in the Rasputin Manifesto (the magazine run by Rasputin Records), because they're relatively short, and don't use a point/star scale. You have to actually read the review to see if you'll like it or not.

    I usually just go to Pitchfork to get my daily dose of concert/new release news.

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    I belong to the ______ generation.
  6. Re:...Like Dancing About Architecture by jglazer75 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A good music review will leave you NEEDING to hear whatever it is that was the subject of the review. After reading Psychedelic Reactions and Carborateur Dung (the finest collection of rock criticism ever) I needed to run out and listen to Bowie and The Clash and the MC5 and James Brown and The Animals and The Velvet Underground. And I hate Lou Reed. But damn Bangs is convincing.

    Some of the best reviews do exactly what you suggest, they hint at what has gone before (isn't that what all music does anyway?)...it can be difficult to describe a band in words without referencing the influences because the basis for your commentary is also the basis for the music. So, stay away from reviews that say: "I deem this album 3.5 stars because I am able to determine what's good." (I don't think David Fricke of Rolling Stone has ever written a good review. And Greil Marcus stopped being good when he stopped emulating Lester Bangs.)

    A good review is objective: "This album sounds like Aphex Twin, Pink Floyd and Nine Inch Nails got together, kicked each other's asses, and then had torrid, violent make-up sex." Or "If Tom Petty and Willie Nelson wrote a Counting Crows song, it wouldn't sound anything like this, but the words might be similar."

    ps. You still BUY albums??! Loser.

  7. Silly Person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pop music isn't sold on the basis of how good it is, it's sold on the basis of how effectively it's marketed.

    Better to spend your time analysing the ways in which millions of people are convinced that the latest trashy teen queen singing her little heart out about how in love she is could possibly be worth buying.

    (Long Dark Teatime of the Soul tells us how, too!)

  8. I could have saved this guy a ton of work by humankind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The formula for "successful" pop music is pretty simple:

    a) Whatever crappy song Clear Channel puts in heavy rotation to foist upon their radio-listening hostages

  9. orwell's songwriting machine is born. by Essron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    at least the author understands her obsession for popular music reviews is unhealthy. i must applaud the methods and approach used...but the goal makes me uneasy.

    i think the concept of this analysis is only useful to monitor the homoginization of creativity. perhaps remotely notable for product marketing purposes, if tied to sales data. the idea suggests an elevated status for critics while cheapening both artists and the most victimized segments of music consumers.

    sure, one can have a statistical analysis of what makes certain critics write approvingly. but the question is what is that worth? i think less than nothing. net negative for culture, but perhaps an advance for the ruin of beautiful experiments.

    orwell's songwriting machine is born.