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Next Generation Stun Guns?

RoyalCheese writes "Well, I've just been reading an interesting little article on New Scientist's website about new crowd control weapons that electrocute/stun the targets. Seems we will soon be at risk of being stunned by ionised air generated by laptop sized lasers..." Reader Spetiam adds "News.com.au reports on a new weapon that will be able to zap you from afar, wires not included: 'We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of a hose at one or many targets in a single sweep,' XADS [Xtreme Alternative Defense Systems] president Peter Bitar is quoted as saying." So, this company has a free-hosting website and and a free-email address for their "president", and the photo looks like cardboard tubes wrapped with green camouflage tape. Hmmmm.

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  1. Reminds me of... by Saluton_Mondo · · Score: 5, Funny



    We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of a hose at one or many targets in a single sweep

    ...the lightning bolt gun in Quake.

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    Batman: "Slake your thirst. You'll have worse than a parched sensation when we're through with you!"
  2. 20 years old tech by nkh · · Score: 5, Funny

    We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of a hose

    The Ghostbusters were already doing that 20 years ago...

  3. Do I smell a 'Homeland Security' scam here? by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Let me see...

    1. Vaporware, laptop-sized non-lethal stun weapon... check.
    2. Free e-mail account for the CEO/President of the company... check.
    3. Free web site for corporate web presence... check.


    Yep, that's what I thought, another Homeland Security scam. Nothing to see here. Carry on.
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    The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
  4. It's about time! by kulakovich · · Score: 5, Funny


    Potato canon technology is now within reach of the US armed forces.

    You want fries with THAT! and THAT! and THAT!

    kulakovich

  5. Oh No.... by CCIEwannabe · · Score: 5, Funny

    We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of a hose at one or many targets in a single sweep

    Holt Crap! A weapon that will specifically target me in my tin foil hat!

  6. Repressive Govenments Rejoice!! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You now have a non-lethal means of effectivly silencing protest!

    No longer will your govenment have to put up with protestors! Unruly tree-hugging anti-capitalists will stumble away even more confused than when they came in! But why stop there!

    The mass tesla cannon(tm) can halt all kinds of protest! Even mass protestations against the president can be easily quashed in mid whine! Police forces can quickly and efficiently deal with dissenters without sparking media attendtion!

    Coupled with new digital censorship, your government will now have the power to make sure the "Right" kind of society exists in your country!

    Order today!

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    May the Maths Be with you!
  7. How it works by dr.+loser · · Score: 5, Informative
    Clever idea. The gadget apparently uses a pulsed solid-state UV laser to ionize a channel in the air between the shooter and the target. The plasma is a much lower resistance path than the un-ionized air, and so the discharge from the gun follows the plasma to the target and then to ground. Interestingly, at high enough intensities laser pulses like that can be self-focusing (pdf) .

    Of course, you still need to hike around a whopping big capacitor bank to have this work over any reasonable distance, and the repeat rate of fire would probably be lousy since the capacitors would have to be recharged....

  8. Googled by LightwaveNet · · Score: 5, Informative

    Meanwhile, Xtreme Alternative Defense Systems (XADS), based in
    Anderson, Indiana, will be one of the first companies to market
    another type of wireless weapon. Instead of using fibres, the $9000
    Close Quarters Shock Rifle projects an ionised gas, or plasma,
    towards the target, producing a conducting channel. It will also
    interfere with electronic ignition systems and stop vehicles.

    "We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of
    a hose at one or many targets in a single sweep," claims XADS
    president Peter Bitar.

    Solid-state lasers

    The gun has been designed for the US Marine Corps to use for crowd
    control and security purposes and is due out in 2005. It is based
    on early, unwieldy technology and has a range of only three metres,
    but an operator can debilitate multiple targets by sweeping it
    across them for "as long as there is an input power source," says
    Bitar.

    XADS is also planning a more advanced weapon which it hopes will
    have a range of 100 metres or more. Instead of firing ionised gas,
    it will probably use a powerful laser to ionise the air itself. The
    idea has been around for decades, says LaVerne Schlie, a laser
    expert at the US Air Force Research Lab in Kirtland, New Mexico.
    It has only become practical with advances in high-power solid-state
    lasers.

    "Before, it took a laser about the size of two trucks," says Schlie.
    "Now we can do it with something that fits on a tabletop."

    The laser pulse must be very intense, but can be brief. So the
    makers of the weapons plan to use a UV laser to fire a 5-joule pulse
    lasting just 0.4 picoseconds - equating to a momentary power of
    more than 10 million megawatts.

    This intense pulse - which is said not to harm the eyes - ionises
    the air, producing long, thread-like filaments of glowing plasma
    that can be sustained by repeating the pulse every few milliseconds.
    This plasma channel is then used to deliver a shock to the victims
    similar to a Taser's 50,000-volt, 26-watt shock.

  9. If Google is to be believed.... by LondonLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pete Bitar, Vice President, has owned three companies, which he started, successfully operated, and sold or licensed off two of them for a profit. His education includes a Bachelor of Science in Business through the University Honors Program at Portland State University. Currently, Mr. Bitar is the President of Xtreme Alternative Defense Systems (XADS), a defense contractor, currently doing work with the Marine Corps on two SBIR Phase II research and development projects in the field of electronics and non-lethal weapon systems. Mr. Bitar brings defense contract acquisition and management experience to the team. He has a number of connections in a variety of fields, including aviation, aerospace, publishing, plastics, real estate, economic development, electronics, weapons research, and finance. Mr. Bitar has over 12 years of management experience, and has been successfully self-employed for more than half of his career. He also has over 18 years of pilot experience in a wide variety of aircraft.

    Source: http://www.americanaviationcompany.com/staff.htm

    Still sounds dubious to me. The picture of the stun gun is hilarious.

  10. Re:Look at the uses they're citing -- chilling by Snowgen · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a weapon designed to use in case of protests or riots. What kinds of governments need this sort of weapon?

    Any country hosting rowdy soccer fans, maybe?

  11. fake or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While i'm inclined to agree with everyone else that this is a scam, I can't be too sure. So here's my assumptions about why it's fake (in addition to aforementioned free website/e-mail):
    1) In the picture, the "soldier" doesn't look older than 14
    2) The "soldier"'s shirt is not tucked in, nor are there any insignia on the shirt. A definite no-no.
    3) The "soldier" is not wearing combat boots, nor are his pants tucked into the boots. Another no-no for real soldiers.
    4) The "weapon" definately looks like a paper tube wrapped in gift wrap. Additionally, whatever that spring thing is at the end of the tube looks rusty. Call me a sticker but methinks that a weapon that shoots electricity would not have a rusty thing at the end.

    Now here's why I think this could be real, just incredibly, incredibly stupid looking:
    1) WHOIS indicates that the website has been registered since 1997. While not entirely unplausible, it seems unlikely that for just a joke someone would have registered the website that long ago, and would have reregistered it.
    2) A Google search show some interesting things. Like the Pete Bitar who is the president/register/etc. is VP of American Aviation where his bio mentions this xtremeads thing. A little bizarre that a professional company would mention a fake project for the bios of their personnel.
    3) The google search also found an article from the Inside Indiana Business that mentions the company and the president. Once again, it seems unlikely this guy could fool that many people. Although not entirely unplausible.

    Anyways, those are my feelings, what do you all think?

  12. Re:Oh the pain, the pain of it all... by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 5, Funny

    Non-lethal my ass, I almost died from just looking at the thing, my ribs still ache now.
    I'd hate to see what this thing can do when actually used...