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Mozilla 1.7 Released

kashif-khan writes "Right at the verge of Firefox 0.9 and Thunderbird 0.7 being released comes the official release of Mozilla 1.7. Updates include smaller size, increased speed and faster start up times. Be sure to read the release notes for the complete list of features and download it from mozilla.org."

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  1. Re:Someone please explain this to me. by Steveftoth · · Score: 5, Informative

    The biggest reason to switch for me is that the web development tools for IE suck compared to mozilla/firefox. DOM inspector, JS debugger, etc. all are awesome tools compared to IE.

    The fact that IE lets websites install software on your computer doesn't exactly make my day either. I really hate that.

  2. Re:Someone please explain this to me. by slasher999 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firefox is a browser, Thunderbird is an email client. The suite is still good if you need a web page editor or if you like everything in one package. Personally, I use IE only when I have to. I use Firefox the rest of the time, I occasionally startup the suite for page editing (usually I just use vim), and I always use Thunderbird for mail.

  3. Right at the verge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Right at the verge of Firefox 0.9 and Thunderbird 0.7 being released comes the official release of Mozilla 1.7.
    That should be this:
    Right on the heels of Firefox 0.9's and Thunderbird 0.7's releases comes the official release of Mozilla 1.7.
    1. Re:Right at the verge? by PitaBred · · Score: 5, Informative

      I thought that too, but I went to Merriam Webster's online dictionary and apparently verge is just the edge of something, doesn't matter whether it's fore or aft. It does sound funny using it like that in the article though.

  4. Is the Copy/Paste bug fixed? by JasonUCF · · Score: 4, Informative

    I see no updates on Bugzilla for any of the trees -- for the life of pete, that "intermittent" copy paste bug is awful. Every now and then copy/paste funtionality will just disappear. You can't copy anything.

    I can stand misrendered pages, I can stand missing URL's, I can stand a memory leak that might force me to restart the system every now and then -- but yee gods, if you mysteriously take my copy/paste away from me at inopportune moments.. madness! URL's hand typed! Monkeys flying out you know what comes next!

    I love the 'zillas to death and I am typing this on Firefox now. I'm not saying the bug forces me to abandon it.. it's just.. so... painful! Help me obi-developers, you're my only hope!

    (can I get a witness? holla!)

  5. Fedora Core 2 by hypermike · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the Article:

    Users of Fedora Core 2 may experience unusually long delays in resolving hostnames. This results from the fact that IPv6 is enabled by default in Fedora Core 2. If you do not need IPv6 support (which is most likely the case), then it is advised that you disable it in the kernel. To do this run the following command as root: echo "alias net-pf-10 off" >> /etc/modprobe.conf You will need to reboot to have this take effect (or simply unload the ipv6 kernel module).

    An FYI if anyone is having trouble on Fedora.

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  6. BitTorrent by typhoonius · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fairly neat: it seems that Mozilla has setup an official torrent tracker for this release.

  7. Re:Why is it still in development? by taped2thedesk · · Score: 4, Informative
    From a 1.6 release announcement:
    We're moving forward and shifting our development attention to Firebird and Thunderbird, (but) we're not going to abandon the suite," Decrem said.

    In fact, Mozilla has found that many enterprises and larger organizations considering Mozilla want a full application suite, Decrem said.

  8. Re:Someone please explain this to me. by trisweb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Woah woah woah...

    You're right about the first part, but on the second part-- Mozilla is a separate application suite that contains both a Browser and a Mail Client, but they are not Firefox/Thunderbird, they are completely different (mostly). So the updates to Firefox/Thunderbird have little to do with this.

    Details, details...

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  9. Re:Firefox + Thunderbird = Mozilla? by Pedersen · · Score: 5, Informative
    • Firefox = Browser
    • Thunderbird = E-Mail & News
    • Mozilla = Browser, Email, News, Calendar, Composer, Palm Sync, Address Book, and even the kitchen sink

    Personally, I go with Mozilla, but then again, I like having all that extra functionality in one place.

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  10. Re:Awesome! by hattig · · Score: 4, Informative

    When Slashdot fucks up:

    1) Click Back Button
    2) Click Forward Button

    Always renders correctly after clicking the forward button.

  11. Re:Awesome! by obotics · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those interested in tracking this bug, it is Bug 217527 in Bugzilla (copy link and paste into another window ^_^). I have seen this problem many times; usually one or two refreshes will fix the problem. Note that the status on the bug says "Fixed." However the fix was pulled back out due to a problem with the patch.

  12. Re:Awesome! by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just do a CTRL-mousewheel (or whatever you have your font size change bound to).

    That will force a re-render and clean things up.

    The bugzilla number is 217527 (the Mozilla team do not want direct links from Slashdot to Bugzilla - if you cannot figure out how to get from here to there without a link you probably shouldn't be going there anyway.)

  13. Re:Firefox + Thunderbird = Mozilla? by trisweb · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't have any Slashdot Cool Points, so I'll take some of yours and try to help you out. ;-)

    In a nutshell, Mozilla started off as the open-sourced version of Netscape 6, which turned into the Mozilla suite, and included the browser, and an e-mail client and some other things and even more things. Mozilla was big, slow, and clunky by many people's views, but it had a great rendering engine called "Gecko," and some other cool stuff. So some people decided to take the rendering engine and other cool stuff, and make a browser that was smaller, lighter, faster, and was really good at one task -- web browsing. They called it Pheonix, then Firebird, then Firefox (legal issues...). At the same time (well, a little later, after people saw how cool it was) some people decided to make an e-mail client on the same idea -- they called it Thunderbird (No legal issues).

    So, Firefox and Thunderbird are very similar on the inside, but with obvious differences. Mozilla is pretty different, as it's a direct derivative (albeit with a full rewrite) of the Netscape application. The Mozilla suite is also significantly slower (but hopefully better with this release) than Firefox and Thunderbird, and has a bigger memory footprint.

    Read this for a more thourough explanation of Firefox's goals, and also check out the Wikipedia article.

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  14. Re:Agreed... by Kelerain · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have had this problem as well. It seems to be a bug in the engine, because increasing and then decreasing the text size fixes the problem. Its a pretty simple work around, but I hope they fix the bug for 1.0

  15. Re:Firefox + Thunderbird = Mozilla? by Nugget · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not as pretty, but it's ten times more functional. Just load up "about:config" from the Location bar in Firefox. This will give you access to every tunable feature that exists in the program, including and far exceeding those which are exposed in Mozilla's preferences.

  16. MODERATOR ABUSE: parent is not "off topic" by ky11x · · Score: 5, Informative

    Good lord. Mods, have you missed his joke or forgotten history?

    The parent post is making a reference to the history of Mozilla and Netscape. Netscape got bought by AOL, who fired a bunch of Netscape developers, and then the Moz got an injection of development effort as former Netscape developers helped out on Moz.

    It's not such a bad joke. I think it's funny and insightful -- he's pointing out the irony of what AOL did and is doing (now that AOL is using Moz code to help with Netscape).

    If you don't know the history and thus didn't get the joke, please don't assume that someone is "off topic" or "inflammatory." He may just be too subtle for you and you could learn something from him.

  17. Re:Obviously they don't need a CALENDAR by generic-man · · Score: 5, Informative

    Evolution is the only open-source e-mail client I've seen that can open and respond to Outlook invitations perfectly. It's been like that since version 1.0, which was bundled with Red Hat 7.3.

    Mozilla plans to add Outlook invitation support as part of the integration step. I don't know if any of the Evolution invitation-accepting code can be converted over, or whether that constitutes a violation of all 48 licenses that Open Source considers valid, but it is possible to accept Outlook invites using open-source software.

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  18. Simple fix: by King_of_Prussia · · Score: 5, Informative
    put the following code in a bookmarklet on your bookmarks toolbar, when it messes up just click and it'll fix it right up. It also works on other sites where tables/columns don't render properly.

    "javascript:document.getElementsByTagName(%22body% 22)[0].style.display='none';document.getElementsBy TagName(%22body%22)[0].style.display='block';void( 0);"

    You'll also have to remove the spaces slashcode puts in there.

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  19. Re:Firefox + Thunderbird = Mozilla? by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The current Mozilla suite probably contains little to none of the original Netscape Communicator 5.0 source code which Netscape released. The original Mozilla (Netscape 5.0) was trashbinned and they started over (after wasting quite a bit of time on 5.0).

    Netscape 6 (horrible) was based off a *near* 1.0 Mozilla codebase IIRC. Netscape 6+ are derivatives of Mozilla not the other way around.

  20. Re:Mozilla 1.7 RC-3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative