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Microsoft Word 5.1: The Apex of Word Processing

angkor writes "'Word 5.1 is 13 years old in 2004. Many people still swear by it. Powerful features, stable application, without bloat. Nirvana by Microsoft. It's been all downhill from there...' I always thought WordPerfect 5.1 was pretty good as well. I still use it alongside my OfficeXP."

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  1. 5.1 for Mac by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Informative
    In case anyone's confused (since Word for Windows jumped from Word 2 to Word 6 without any inbetween versions - take that Slackware!), this article is about Word 5.1 for Mac.

    There was probably a DOS Word 5 too.

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    1. Re:5.1 for Mac by iocat · · Score: 5, Informative
      Word 5.1 was ok for a Microsoft product, but serious Mac word processors always used the blisteringly fast WriteNow (originally by T/Maker, later published by TLC). It was done in 68000 assembly and originally started as an Apple funded project which was a hedge against the possibility that MacWrite might not get done in time for the Macintosh launch.

      In addition to the fastest word count ever seen (essential if you're a journalist), it also came with really well written and funny manuals. Even emulated on the first PowerMacs, it ran circles around WORD and had great line spacing abilities (essential if you're a student trying to hit a page count).

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    2. Re:5.1 for Mac by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Microsoft Word for DOS 5.5a is available for free download from Microsoft here.

      To install run "wd55_ben -d" after downloading, then run setup.exe

      No, I have no idea why it's available for free download, but there it is,
      free for all comers apparently.

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  2. Re:Spell check by niko9 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have you tried Abiword?

    Small, fast, light and with spellcheck. Will let you save as .doc also, which lets me print out all my papers at school wheer they only have windos and mac boxes.

  3. Re:fact by swillden · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually Netscape built a version 5, they just didn't release it.

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  4. That's not why by bahamat · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Netscape codebase that would have become version 5 was released under the MPL and became Mozilla. After two years of work Mozilla 1.0 was released, upon which a new Netscape product was based. Because so much change had happened from the 5.0 codebase it was proper to version it 6.

    Netscape 5 did exist, but was never released as a product.

  5. Re:fact by reimero · · Score: 4, Informative

    That may have played a role, but for a short time, Microsoft distinguished between Word for DOS and Word for Windows. Word for DOS was generally at around the same version as WordPerfect, while Word for Windows had seperate numbering. The jump also reconciled the differences in Microsoft's own version numbering, and taken in context with the DOS product, it was actually a "normal" progression (which, I believe, was actually at Word 6 and not Word 5.1. Winword 2 and Word 5.5 were concurrent, IIRC.)

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  6. Gramatica by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Gramatica is THE best grammar checker I have ever used. It was written by a couple of PhD's in English who happened to get into computer science fairly early on. The triviality and incorrectness of Word's current grammar checker is appalling since Gramatica did a MUCH better job 10 years ago.

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  7. Word: nice -- if and when... by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 5, Informative
    When I use Windows at work, Word is powerful and pretty nice...if and when it works. It doesn't crash on me, but it does refuse to do what I tell it sometimes; power users get used to doing workarounds, so it's not that big of a deal if you use it every single day -- you memorize its idiosyncracies.

    However, several times I've seen a whole group of Word power users (not clueless lusers) need to given up on a document and start over from scratch -- usually just on little things like the company business plan or 12 month road map (urk). The only workaround each time was to copy/paste the original document text into a new Word file, because Word was hopelessly confused by whatever little magic cookies it had left in the original document.

    I.e. I know it's not just me being confused, I see this happen to everyone who uses Word heavily on big documents, sooner or later.

    To be charitable, this may be the eventual fate of any huge app that grows by accretion from a small program to a hugely enormous giganto app, without being redesigned and recoded and refactored along the way.

    So yeah, Word -- nice when it works, I guess, but it can be quite frustrating other times.

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    1. Re:Word: nice -- if and when... by XeRXeS-TCN · · Score: 5, Informative

      At the risk of sounding like a spokesman, if you think OpenOffice takes a while to load up (it *can* be kinda slow at times) or you don't like the various releases of Word, you can always use Abiword.

      It is quite lightweight (only needs a 486 and 16mb of RAM to run) despite looking very similar in style and operation to the latest versions of both OOo and MS Word. It's also compatible with both Word and OOo, and supports many other formats both internally and via plugins, such as WordPerfect etc.

      Personally, I have OOo and Abiword installed, so that I can use Abiword for word processing, and OOo for spreadsheets and powerpoint presentations whenever I need to. I also run Abiword on my old 300MHz laptop, and it runs with no lag whatsoever, unlike when I tried running OOo on it.

    2. Re:Word: nice -- if and when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The standard workaround is to save to RTF. This format stores all the most common features like pictures, graphics, tables, etc... and is the only way to recover from Word's many situations where you can't even save your work anymore....

  8. Re:Not Just Word by LurkerXXX · · Score: 4, Informative
    Have you actually ever even installed Powerpoint???

    There is an option you can install called pack-and-go. It makes a little executable file which will show your presentation. No Powerpoint installation needed on the machine used for the presentation. It's been in every version of powerpoint I can remember using.

  9. Left + Right Align on same line by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can do this with most word processors, by using tabs. What you do is set a tab on the right side of the page, then modify it to be a right-aligned tab. When you tab over to it, your text will be right-aligned to the tab line. This works both in OpenOffice and Microsoft Word.

  10. Re:WordPerfect 5.1 by kalidasa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having worked with redlining myself (not for an attorney, but for a publications department that needed it), I can confirm that. To this day, it's much easier to mark the margins of a highlighted paragraph with asterisks and the like in WordPerfect (just a format attributed) than Word (text box).

    There are other things in WordPerfect that are helpful to attorneys, too. It's a shame that every version of WordPerfect since 8.0 has s*&^ed.

  11. Re:Two words - Task Pane by Cromac · · Score: 4, Informative
    I have spent more time with Office XP hacking the registry and customizing toolbar buttons to avoid their suppossed intelligent features.

    Did you script the changes you made so the next time, because there's always a next time especially with Windows, you don't have to do it all by hand?

    A simle WSH script to automate those registry changes might save you a bunch of time and headachs next time around.

  12. Re:one man's bloat is another man's feature by DrVomact · · Score: 4, Informative
    Write tech documents with Word? One of my current job responsibilities is to maintain a 2,500 page document. Would you use Word for this? I'd prefer to use an application that does one thing well--in this case, FrameMaker--than one that keeps track of my boss' calendar.

    I haven't checked lately, but Word used to crash regularly on manuals that exceeded 200 pages, never did a good index, and couldn't handle multiple chapters in separate files. You'd think they'd fix this stuff before they added frills. (I'd be surprised, but maybe they did...I never do real work with Word anymore.)

    For me, the most loathsome feature of Word is style inheritance. Unless you are really good at designing Word styles (and who is?), you wind up with a bunch of styles that are mutually related in some mysterious way so that when you make a little change to one style, another style suddenly morphs into Greek, or all your numbered lists turn to bullets. I hear people mention this phenomenon frequently, but they usually think that word processors are supposed to act like this.

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  13. Re:Strange... by ignorant_newbie · · Score: 5, Informative

    you may not have any MSOffice _windows_ running, but I'll bet you a copy of Office XP that if you check your 'startup items' folder, you'll find that office is preloading it'self at boot.

    This isn't a bad thing, Just be aware of it when making comparisions. OOo is taking longer because it's not already there.