OpenBeos Is Now Haiku

teamhasnoi writes "Today at WalterCon the new name of OpenBeos has been released - Haiku! More info at the BeOS Journal. BeGroovy is reporting that Java is running on Haiku as well! All in all, a very good day for a BeOS (now Haiku) fan!"

Comments

Nice Name

[Professor Cool Linux]

Disclaimer: this is my opinion & you don't have to agree with it. But please respect it as i do yours.

Haiku is a very nice name for 2 reasons:
1. It flows well
2. is stands for a light weight form of poetry

Light weight & flowing poetry are great things to associate w/ an OS in my opinion.

Re:Nice Name

[jonjohnson]

1. It flows well

No pun intended...

Re:Nice Name

[oO Peeping Tom Oo]

As opposed to what, bloated and insecure?

For the people who want to see the new logo...

[teamhasnoi]

I made a wallpaper awhile back with the new logo. You can get it here. It's blatantly similar to the new website. :)

Great name.

[sethadam1]

BeOS and Naiku have a history. If you used BeOS back in the day, you'll remember that there were several hundred Haikus, some about BeOS, many about JLG himself, that were messages within the OS itself.

Here is a ton of them
and here is more info.

First three to respond to this (with e-mail addresses!) get gmail invites (if they want).

Re:Great name.

[ambrosen]

OT, but if you meant that about the gmail invites, ambrosen@onetel.net.uk would be a place to send one that would make me very grateful.

Re:Great name.

[Anonymous Coward]

same thing as the guy above me. satan@paulisageek.com --- gmail please

Re:Great name.

[ag3n7]

Figured I'd try to reply (since I'm an old beos user).

gmail.5.agent@spamgourmet.com

Eh, Haiku, not Naiku. [nt]

[sethadam1]

But here is some text, because this lameness filter thing won't let post this without it.

Haiku

[Deltawolf]

Haiku is a nice name, gives it a poetic feel. Next thing we know the login message on an OpenBeOS shell will be one.

Re:Haiku

[rusty0101]

Perhaps the login itself will require generating a new Haiku. Only creative users with a tallent for Haiku get to use that feature...

-Rusty

haiku for Haiku

[hexfortyfive]

An ancient system
Reborn with Japanese name
It will continue

Re:haiku for Haiku

[Anonymous Coward]

Haha, slashdot haiku that's on-topic for once! You'd get my mod points if I had them.

Re:haiku for Haiku

[Anonymous Coward]

media OS
linux is better in all ways
bow to pre-empt patch

Re:Great name. -gmail

[Maqueo]

Same here :) info (AT) k-yoga (DOT) com

Where's the code?

[Fished]

Looking at OpenBeos' website, I can't find anything to download. What's the point of a new name with no code? Am I missing something?

Re:Where's the code?

[Tezkah]

R1 come quite soon
New name, to prevent the theft
of Palm's bought IP

In other words, a .BFS i386 install disc is coming soon, (I asked the OpenBeOS IRC people, and they kinda looked at me funny when I asked for any isos, since BeOS doesn't support that), but R1 will support i386 only, then R2 will hopefully support more architectures. I'm not with the Haiku people, so YMMV.

Palm bought out Be's IP, so the name "BeOS" belongs to them, hence the need to switch to "Haiku".

Its actually a pretty nice name.

Re:Where's the code?

[masukomi]

On sourceforge of course OpenBeOS / Haiku's sourceforge project. There's plenty of it.

There's no install disk yet though.

Re:Great name, Bad Post?

[Anonymous Coward]

Interesting that this same post appeared on OSNews, with the same spelling error 'Naiku'...

Re:Great name, Bad Post?

[sethadam1]

Why interesting? It was MY comment on both sites, and I really only posted because I had gmail invites to give away.

Sue me.

Haiku's for Haiku

[miyako]

I cannot think of
a very good comment now
do not mod me down

Please die...

[andy55]

Many years have passed,
Developers, go elsewhere.
Please die, BeOS, die.

Re:Please die...

[csirac]

You are a funny troll aren't you...

But seriously, it's great to have alternative alternatives. Linux and the other UNIX clones out there are great 'n all, but not for everything. Really what makes it is the user software - apps like Wings3D, Blender, Mozilla, Flightgear, gimp, Abiword - make Linux worth using on the desktop.

But the design of BeOS matches the stand-alone desktop user experience that I would like to see.

That said, I've been Linux-only for about 3 years now.

Re:Please die...

[andy55]

You are a funny troll aren't you...

I actually meant it to be funny and didn't mean to insult anyone, but it looks like folks are taking it seriously--it's gotten the ol smackdown already. That reminds me, I heard that if someone mods you funny and another mods you down, the net result is -1, not 0. Anyone know if this is a true statement?

Separately, I'm amazed that people still do dev work for BeOS. By that, I mean, of all the open source projects to spend time on, why choose this one?! It seems there's a lot of open source projects that offer the world more value than BeOS does.

Re:Please die...

[csirac]

Sorry I said the word "troll". Guess I should have said "man" ;-)

Separately, I'm amazed that people still do dev work for BeOS. By that, I mean, of all the open source projects to spend time on, why choose this one?! It seems there's a lot of open source projects that offer the world more value than BeOS does.

So in other words you meant what you said.

There are many, many FLOSS projects duplicating each other, not just Operating Systems.

There are many that are very interested in the BeOS architecture. It's not just different. It's a whole "new" design. Sure, Linux is a lot more general purpose - but that doesn't mean everything else is valueless, or even of less value - depends on the user and the context.

OpenBeOS is one of many exciting experimental Operating Systems, along with Atheos, SkyOS, AROS, BRIX, GEM, NewOS, Oberon (a programming language that has it's own native OS that isn't C!), and of course, Plan 9.

Many of these aren't even UNIX-like at all, but can provide a POSIX compatibility API to make porting GNU software easier. A lot of these projects are experimental for the sake of it; in other words, they are not realistically expecting to reach a mainstream status. OpenBeOS, on the other hand, is driven to reach a goal - get back to where the original BeOS was, and surpass it. Their philosophy seems to be, that using a FLOSS development model, they can succeed the second time round. I sincerely hope they do.

There's much more to the world than just Linux... these OS projects are small enough to try out new and radical things, without anybody bitching about it.

But most importantly, even if they are of little practical use, it's about FUN and VISION. Sure, they could hack on something boring like OOo or Mozilla, but it would take months to learn the internals enough to start serious hacking.

There's nothing quite like writing your own OS. The learning and experience gained is worth every minute of it.

Re:Please die...

[Laebshade]

Many years have passed,
Developers, go elsewhere.
Please die, BeOS, die.

That isn't a haiku. 1 too many syllables in the last part. Try this:

Many years have passed
developers, go elsewhere
Please die, BeOS.

Re:Please die...

[andy55]

That isn't a haiku. 1 too many syllables in the last part.

Cmon--like I don't know how to count syllables?? Dunno what dev community you come from but everyone I know pronounces it, "bee-aws"--two syllables total, and it's been like that for years.

Re:Please die...

[miyako]

AFAIK this is true, because funny does not affect your karma, but all the other options do. Perhaps we should have a -1 not-funny or -1 nice try which would not affect karma to counter-balance this?

Re:Great name, Bad Post?

[netsharc]

Do you get 2 invites to give away, or a lot more? I only had 2 invites to give away. I (am/was) wondering if this is the start of a new troll mode: "Reply to this posrt if you want a gmail address", look at all those Slashdotters turning to AOL'ers saying "me too please", so fucking lame..

To be on topic, what a bad name. Most OS'es don't have generic words as names, in the case of Windows (when the "Microsoft" is left out) it's still a description of the operating mode: through a GUI with "windows".

But Haiku? Damnit. I find it offensive to the original meaning of the word. And won't we sound silly when we say "I'm installing haiku" or "Hey they released a new Haiku!" Argh!!!

A lot more.

[sethadam1]

First I got three.
Then three more.
Then 5 more, 5 more, and 5 more.

Eh...what?

[sethadam1]

Everyone I know pronounces it properly, "Be-Oh-Es."

Those who don't usually say "Be-Ohse." I've never heard "Be-aws" in my life, and I used it exclusively for over a year.

Have you ever heard anyone say LindowsOS as "Lin-doze-aws" or "Lin-doze-Ohse?" How about the other free BeOS replacement, "BlueEyedOS?" Is the the "OS part of that prounounced?

Re:Eh...what?

[fuzzhead]

S-Q-L or Sequel?

Re:Eh...what?

[sethadam1]

Actually, THAT is a great question. Because I always say "sequel" and many I know do too. But I also know plenty of people who say S-Q-L. What do ya'll say?

Re:Eh...what?

[Anonymous Coward]

What do ya'll say?

potato

Re:Eh...what?

[Anonymous Coward]

tomato

Re:Eh...what?

[Anonymous Coward]

let's call the whole thing off.

Oh My.

[sethadam1]

Separately, I'm amazed that people still do dev work for BeOS. By that, I mean, of all the open source projects to spend time on, why choose this one?! It seems there's a lot of open source projects that offer the world more value than BeOS does.

You obviously aren't a developer. Most FLOSS developers are unpaid volunteers (most, not all). That means they do what interests them. Hey, if you're going to paint your house, why not paint mine - it needs it more. That philosophy makes no sense, right?

BeOS developers do it because they love it. It's an excellent environment, and it's easy to write for. There's tons of great software waiting to be ported over. It's faster, by shitloads, than Linux (actually, it feels faster, but that's another story).

The point is, whjy should a developer work on something other than what interests them, and who are you to decide what value their code offers?

90% of the time I let my mod points expire, but today I wish I had some to mod you down.

Re:Oh My.

[andy55]

You obviously aren't a developer.

Interesting! I've been a freeware and shareware developer since 98. See my tagline, ace.

Of course you're right about FLOSS developers working on what interests them, but the point I was trying to make was that to develop something like BeOS seems like building a ship in your basement--you know it'll never see the "real" high seas.

Re:Oh My.

[lythotype]

"...to develop something like BeOS seems like building a ship in your basement--you know it'll never see the "real" high seas."

The same thing could have been said about the development of Linux at one stage or another. Remember, just as Haiku is now, Linux once was also.

Fuuuuuuck Haiku!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Hate it, hate it, hate it!!! Why do people think it's cool to haiku-ify code for no practical reason? It was funny for about 1.38 seconds. Why not use your time doing something useful, like helping in a soup kitchen or getting some exercise? Writing haiku is about as useful as playing video games all day. Fuck haiku!!!

Bad Choice

[crucini]

By choosing a generic word as the OS name, they've made it harder to search for info about the OS. Try searching for "linux word processor" vs. "haiku word processor."

Re:Bad Choice

[Anonymous Coward]

How does that have any bearing on results? The name Haiku has been around for what, five minutes? I guarantee that as soon as the new website comes up, www.haiku-os.org will be first in results, followed by several sites that will just add 'haiku' to the meta-tags.

No problem.