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Lauren Weinstein: If MTV Calls, Hang Up

Lauren Weinstein writes "Usually when one gets a call to participate in a news-oriented television program, subterfuge isn't a worry. But in the brave new world of 'newsertainment' -- a blurring of news and entertainment -- you really need to watch your back. Herein is the sordid tale (posted last night to Dave Farber's "IP" list) of what recently happened to me -- and my narrow escape -- when Viacom/MTV Networks came calling, asking for my help to educate the world's youth about important topics (in this case, the scourge of spam). Be warned. It could happen to you!"

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  1. For those that just read the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    For people that didn't read the article, it's actually a new show on Comedy Central called Crossballs. It's not MTV itself, or even a show on MTV.

    Comedy Central also produces the great The Daily Show, which I'm sure a few guests are upset they appeared on after it airs. (Host Jon Stewart recently jokingly asked on the show why anyone is still willing to appear). It's more widely known, though, and they seem to be open about who they are.

    1. Re:For those that just read the summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They won a Peabody award.

  2. Here is the sordid article text by scragz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dave,

    The L.A. Times article (avoid folding the long URL!):
    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-adfi-fr eston20j un20,1,5581013.story?
    coll=la-home-headlines online for now (registration required) tells the story of
    Tom Freston, chairman of Viacom's MTV Networks. The article suggests that Tom's
    style for MTV et al. might be the saving grace for Paramount and perhaps the
    rest of the entertainment industry.

    If MTV's model is the solution, we're in for big trouble. Hear my saga and avoid
    the fate that almost befell yours truly -- experts and spokespeople in the IP
    readership, you could be next!

    A few weeks ago, I got a call from a producer who identified herself as being
    with MTV Networks' "The Debate Project" - -- who wanted to book me onto a new
    debate format show in production, to be taped a few days hence. She described
    the show (which she never actually specifically named) as oriented toward young
    people about important topics, with guests who were experts in their respective
    fields. They wanted me to debate a known spammer (who they wouldn't identify at
    the time) regarding the scourge of spam. It would be fun she implied, since the
    audience would of course be on my side.

    While MTV Net producing a show like this seemed a bit odd, it's not unheard of
    for them to do topical programming. She assured me the program would definitely
    air on an MTV Network but wasn't sure which one yet. Odd, but I've gotten
    stranger calls from more ordinary news-oriented programs.

    They sealed the deal by promising to send a car so I wouldn't have to hassle
    with driving in to Hollywood from The Valley through late Friday afternoon
    traffic, and even said they'd throw in $200 (egads -- payment for a "news"
    appearance -- unheard of in my experience!)

    OK, I'll bite -- sounds more interesting than typical interviews anyway. Then
    followed more phone calls from other staffers questioning me at length on the
    topic of spam, an e-mailed message with similar questions, and finally all was
    set to go. They were really excited about my joining them the next day they kept
    saying, and would call me in the morning before sending the car.

    That same Thursday night, with the show scheduled for Friday, I was increasingly
    uncomfortable. There was a bad feeling I just couldn't shake, an almost animal
    instinct of something amiss that I couldn't put my finger on.

    When the show had originally called, I had done some cursory googling but
    couldn't fine anything relevant. This didn't seem too unusual for a show in
    production but not yet on air. Now I started googling in depth.

    At first I found nothing again. But then I started working backwards from the
    contact phone numbers I had for the show's production staff. This time I hit pay
    dirt, and while the pages unscrolled on my screen a cold chill ran down my
    spine.

    As the recent, angry testimonials I had found recounted, with a matching of
    modus operandi that left no chance for error, the show on which I was about to
    appear was a fraud.

    Not really a debate at all, the show is actually a program for Comedy Central
    (yes, an MTV/Viacom network) called "Crossballs" -- and its sole purpose is the
    embarrassment and humiliation of the expert guests who are brought on expecting
    a legitimate discussion program.

    Crossballs is a rigged "reality" show, where real guests, who have been kept in
    the dark about the show's real format, are paired off against actors (playing
    the debate opponents) for the amusement of the live audience. The stories I read
    from persons recently on the show included descriptions of crude,
    sexually-oriented verbal attacks (and worse, like being handed various sexual
    "apparatus") and concerns that their reputations would be ruined once the shows
    aired.

    As the alien commander said in "Plan 9 From Outer Space": "That was TOO close!"

    In a few hours I was scheduled t

  3. For those that would like to read the article by delta407 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I managed to grab a mirror before the server was reduced to a smouldering pile of copper and silicon.

    Enjoy.

  4. Re:Punk'd? by wfberg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the shows are taped, they can't broadcast anything without a signed waiver, for fear of you sueing the bejesus out of them. Just stay clear of signing waivers that pertain to tapings of future events, and you'll be fine.

    --
    SCO employee? Check out the bounty
  5. Re:Is this Jerky Boys gone Wild? by Have+Blue · · Score: 5, Informative

    The great thing about the Daily Show is that it's an actual news show: They cover real-world events, they report the actual facts, and only then do they start joking around. At least, they are no more or less accurate than any other TV news program. And since it's a comedy, and on cable, they can get away with more BS-calling and inconsistency-lampooning than most, and that's why it's so attractive to the younger generation.

  6. Oh this is TOO funny! by cluge · · Score: 5, Informative

    One can't help but feel sorry for the legit news folks over at CBS' "60 Minutes" and other excellent news programs....

    You are kidding right? The news program that almost drove Audi out of business with it's false inaccurate reporting?[ http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/1115/6412145a_pr int.html] The same news program that lines up it's guests to co-incide with their book releases (See Bill Clinton)? The same network (CBS) that uses pyrotechnics (20/20) to "demonstrate" what happens when a full sized pickup was hit - because it wouldn't catch on fire otherwise? [http://www.car-forums.com/s10/t2240.html]

    I thought the author was a bright guy, up until that comment. 60 minutes may have at one time been a respectable news magazine. That has not been the case for almost 2 decades IMHO. If 60 minutes knocks on your door and they have decided your "guilty", you have a better chance at getting your side of the story heard on cross balls.

    In the end - isn't that whats the most sad?

    cluge
    AngryPeopleRule

    --
    "Science is about ego as much as it is about discovery and truth " - I said it, so sue me.
  7. What happens if you go on the show by dellsworth · · Score: 5, Informative
    Jim March, a gun rights/electronic voting activist, went on this show without knowing what it really was. Here's his account of what happened:

    http://www.equalccw.com/thedebateshowfiasco.html.

    Not pretty.