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Skype VoIP Software Released For Linux

pmf writes "Skype Technologies has just released a free beta version of their software for Linux. Skype is well known P2P VoIP technology that, according to them: '...is addressing all the problems of legacy VoIP solutions: bad sound quality, difficult to set up and configure, and the need for expensive, centralized infrastructure.'"

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  1. Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seeing as how this is from the Kazaa people, are we to expect spyware in this product?

    1. Re:Spyware by mrwonton · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Seeing as how this is from the Kazaa people, are we to expect spyware in this product?


      Always expect spyware. The question is whether we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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    2. Re:Spyware by starflt · · Score: 5, Funny
      [JARRING CHORD]

      Nooooobody expects spyware! Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise, and Internet Explorer exploits... Exploits and surprise. Our two weapons are surprise and Internet Explorer exploits... and uncaring users.. . Our *three* weapons are surprise, IE exploits, and uncaring users... and an almost fanatical devotion to an annoyance-marketing based business model. Our *four*... no... *Amongst* our weapons... Amongst our *weaponry*, are such elements as surprise, IE exploits... I'll come in again.

    3. Re:Spyware by sigaar · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can confirm this. I signed up with Skype long ago, so they have my e-mail address. I also e-mailed skype to ask if they will be releasing a linux version in the future. I got a mail back saying "not at this time." Then, some months later, I received a very polite, plain text mail, informing me that, indeed they would be releasing a linux version soon, and would let me know when it is available.

      Then, last night, I got a third e-mail from them informing me that the linux version is available, and where I can download it from. Seeing as I e-mailed them asking, I don't consider this spam at all. I also haven't found any spywhere on my Windows box.

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    4. Re:Spyware by Rexdude · · Score: 5, Informative

      The guys behind this are the ones who *invented* Kazaa and the FastTrack protocol-they later sold it to Sharman Networks, who are the ones who added the spyware. There's no spyware in this-their website boldly displays this fact, instead of burying it under legalese.

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    5. Re:Spyware by ohad_l · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why the hell should we not be expecting spyware? Spyware is indeed extremely improbable in open source software, but here's a great example - Skype - of an application that is not open sourced. Linux does not inherently make spyware impossible - it's just that most software that is used with Linux is open-source, and therefore easily freed of spyware.

      Skype could indeed contain spyware. We can and will probably use the flexibility of various firewalling and sniffing utilities to block it.

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  2. Does anyone know if they have a business plan? by jamonterrell · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The most information I've found is that the software is made by the makers of KaZaa, who is notorious for trying to make money off of P2P. Does Skype have a business plan? Is there spyware/adware/malware? Anyone know?

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    1. Re:Does anyone know if they have a business plan? by andymar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Is it not allowed to make money off p2p ? They have a business plan, in about 10 days they will release a new version where you can call from Skype to a regular phone at competitive prizes. You need to buy a headset from one of their partners. Why so many critical posts, there is not any spyware in Skype, at least not yet. I think it's great that there is a native Linux version, and not all programs for Linux have to be GPL. We need popular programs for the Linux desktop, and this is one of them. The programmers have said that one version of Skype will remain free for ever, but some more advanced features will cost money.

  3. Test your connection first... by fiji · · Score: 5, Informative

    Before you download and configure this, test your connection out so see if it can handle VoIP. You can also play with different codecs to see if one is better than the other over your connection.

    -ben

  4. These Guys Are Also the Inventors of KaZaA by Ieshan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Another thing the Linux platform has thus been missing: Spyware.

    I highly doubt that the guys who made Kazaa have taken some great leap into the world of moral business. Bastards.

  5. Skype disadvantages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Skype is hype...

    * Skype is proprietary.
    * Skype is using a proprietary protocol that no VoIP carriers/providers will be using.
    * Skype has better sound quality? Let me laugh, it just happens that Skype is only able to do audio, so all your upload can be devoted to audio.

    OK, Skype is a nice toy for Windows users. For Linux users, there is GnomeMeeting (http://www.gnomemeeting.org) and Linphone.

  6. How about the FWD? by Milo+of+Kroton · · Score: 5, Informative

    Free World Dialup makes a good product which I find is better and is the superior option of choices. You can find this with the Google searches for terms like Free World Dialup with the quotes surrounding.

  7. One-up on Skype by bigberk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Skype claims P2P but the voice has to go through at least one hop, so the latency is pretty poor and you need other (hijacked) nodes. Check out this VoIP system, which has low latency, direct peer to peer communications even through NAT on both sides. Oh, and blowfish for encryption so good... it may be illegal in your country!

    1. Re:One-up on Skype by bigberk · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is the technology used. It uses a third party to set up the 'connection', but the third party is only required for connection establishment. After that, data flows directly between the two NAT'ed hosts and not through the third party.

  8. Related News by deutschemonte · · Score: 4, Funny

    In related news, the baby bells have tapped the RIAA for their team of lawyers to start tracking down individuals that are using their communication networks and are not paying access fees like other phone companies do to operate over their lines. Then they will sue them until everyone gives up computers and goes back to taking the needle of the record so they can ring up the operator for the klondike 5 number of their friend down the street. I can't wait.

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  9. this is fantastic news by Schlemphfer · · Score: 5, Informative
    For me, Skype is one of the last products that's keeping me tied to an XP box. Your performance may vary, but I've found that the quality of calls I make anywhere in the US is significantly higher than what I get through a regular phone line (assuming both parties are using broadband.)

    Overseas, I've had less luck. From my place in Central NY, my Skype calls to a friend in Amsterdam are generally intolerable, although he reports that it works fine when he talks to his brother in Philly. I've had poor but acceptable connections using Skype to talk to a friend in Madrid.

    Voice quality has continued to improve slightly with each new release of Skype. But for me, the verdict is Skype is sensational within North America, and barely tolerable or outright unusable for calling overseas.

    Still, I wish everyone had broadband and Skype. Even without taking the fact that it's free, it just sounds measurably better than standard long distance calls within the US.

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  10. Calling out by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the FAQ SkypeOut (what enables to call external phone numbers) is not enabled for the Linux version, and that could be what makes it worth, or different from other available solutions.... or is something common and widely used?

  11. According to their Public Minds site, ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Informative

    they internally alpha'd a Mac version as of June 16, 2004 (which went well) and expect it will take 2-3 months more for it to show up.

  12. Re:If it's not Ogg.... by p80 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Are you talking about Ogg Vorbis or Ogg FLAC or Ogg Speex? Speex is better for that kind of task.
    "Speex is an Open Source/Free Software patent-free audio compression format designed for speech" and speex is part of the xiph foundation :-)

  13. Re:skype == spyware by bersl2 · · Score: 4, Informative
    /home/bersl2/.gconfd
    /home/bersl2/.gconfd/saved_s tate
    /home/bersl2/.gnome2_private
    /home/bersl2/. qt
    /home/bersl2/.Skype
    /home/bersl2/.Skype/bersl 2
    /home/bersl2/.Skype/bersl2/config.lck
    /home/be rsl2/.Skype/bersl2/profile256.dbb
    /home/bersl2/.S kype/bersl2/index.dat
    /home/bersl2/.Skype/bersl2/ config.xml
    /home/bersl2/.Skype/shared.lck
    /home/ bersl2/.Skype/shared.xml
    Those are the only files I found that it could have modified or created, unless it has some kind of way of changing the associated times on files. So it's not permanent.
  14. skype is a cpu hog by truffle · · Score: 4, Informative


    Just mentioning that skype is a cpu hog. This matters because it means it's not great for playing recent video games.

    A great alternative is teamspeak which lets groups of players talk. Another alternative (I haven't tried this one) is Ventrillo.

    Skype is great if you just want to use your computer for wireless chit chat.

    I might as well plug the Jabra BT250 bluetooth headset while I'm at it. Wireless headset with up to 8 hours of talk time. I use this plus teamspeak to give me the freedom to wander my house and not loose contact with my gaming buddies. It also works nicely with my powerbook and my cell phone.

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  15. Cheap Bastards by chill · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nothing beats the ease of setup and use of my new VoIP phone with Packet8. $49 set up fee and they sent me a DTE.

    Plug DTE into power, hub and my cordless phone base station and I had dial tone.

    They assigned me a local number, so it is a local call from my office.

    Free calls worldwide to other Packet8 scuscribers. Unlimited calls in US/Canada for people with regular phones. $20.59/month and that INCLUDES all taxes.

    I get to use my cordless phone and speaker phones. I can take the DTE with me and my phone number follows me.

    Oh, and Packet8 just introduced *real* E911, for the paranoid among you. (Note: If you take the DTE travelling with you and then call 911, it'll claim you're at your address on file -- back home.)

    Father's Day alone saved me the $20 in what would have been LD charges.

    For those that love the software phones, Vonage supports one that has a Linux client as well.

    And VoicePulse will allow you to set up your own Asterisk server, hook in and use them as a PSTN gateway.

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  16. FreeWorld Dialup by 4ginandtonics · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone else mentioned - FreeWorld Dialup is a great way to go for voip:

    - standards based
    - Free
    - Windows, Linux and pocketpc clients available
    - Call 800 numbers and more
    - Call to/from vonage customers
    - get free phone number and have people call you
    - Get a wisip phone (WiFi SIP) and you have the closest thing to a IP mobile phone you can get.

    FreeWorld Dialup

    I'm currently running windows and ipaq (pocketpc 2002) clients fine. And calling my home vonage service - no problem!

  17. Re:skype == spyware by katsushiro · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just a note, I'm fairly anal about spyware/adware. I have AdAware, Spybot S&D, and SpywareBlaster on my Windows PC, and I keep them updated on a daily basis, and scan the computer before and after installation of just about any program, not to mention on a weekly basis no matter what.

    I've been using Skype on my Windows PC for aboout 3 weeks now on a pretty regular basis to talk to some friends, and so far, it's worked pretty much as advertised, no complaints here, in fact, I'm pretty pleased with it, especially compared to previous VoIP programs I've used before. In that time, before and after installation and updates, none of my spyware scanner programs have detected any spyware, at least, none that I can trace to it. So, so far at least, the 'No Spyware or Adware' button on their website seems to be legit.

    Dunno about the Linux version, but I figure it's pretty much the same way. And the fact that they were willing to change their Linux EULA over spyware concerns gives me a bit of faith in them. Sure, it's from the same folk as Kazaa, but at least so far, it doesn't seem to have fallen into the same trap as the official Kazaa client.

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