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First Free Wireless Link Between Europe And Africa

Paul Bawon writes "A company called PSAND have just installed a wireless link between Tarifa in Spain and Tangiers in Morocco, thus linking the African and European continents together with a free wireless link. The link went across the Straits of Gibraltar with a total distance of 32 km over the sea. Images can be found here and notes from the work can be found here."

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  1. Cool... by miroth · · Score: 5, Funny

    Images of a wireless connection? I gotta see this.

    1. Re:Cool... by Orgazmus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Its probably on the other side of the wireless link ;)

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  2. Nice. by jb.hl.com · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Internet is one thing that could benefit education in poor African countries a great deal, allowing free access to information. This is just one more step in fully linking up Africa.

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    1. Re:Nice. by 955301 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except that this is to Morocco, not the "poor African countries". It's more symbolic than anything else. Morocco is about as culturally backwards as any other Islamic dominated country bucking outside influence (not just Western, but all). Women are regarded as cattle, the religious brainwashing begins at 5am via loudspeaker while your sleeping.

      Wake me when there is a Satellite feed directly to the "poor African countries" of which you speak. Which, btw, are ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A VERY BIG DESERT! I hope before someone spends time & money on that though, they spend some sinking wells into the ground so the people have water to drink while surfing the net.

      I'll bet this ends up being a dead end path, servicing only Morocco. And "Morocco gets a free Internet connection" ain't that big of a deal.

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    2. Re:Nice. by pe1rxq · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, but its a step closer to a high degree of coverage.
      Also this one is free... Most existing links are incredibly expensive for the the Africans due to the absence of fair peering agrements.

      Jeroen

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    3. Re:Nice. by CvD · · Score: 5, Informative

      There is a huge loop of fiber going all the way around Africa that was put there during the dotcom boom by a company called Africa One. Apparently it is mostly dark, because no one can pay to use it:

      See here for a large pic.

      More info:
      Wired News
      Lucent
      Some interview

      So this is interesting for wireless sake, but not interesting for the sake of Internet connectivity in Africa. This fiber loop needs to be put to use to enable cheap Internet in Africa. Many Internet connections are still done by satellite, which is expensive and slow.

    4. Re:Nice. by southpolesammy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      free access to information

      TANSTAAFL. Mark my words, this connection will not go unpaid for -- otherwise why do it in the first place?

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  3. URGENT ASSISTANCE NEEDED by The+I+Shing · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wonderful! With this new cross-continental wireless connection, those poor, hapless widows of deposed and assassinated heads of the Nigerian government and industry can all the more easily appeal for help in moving their vast sums of wealth into foreign bank accounts!

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  4. Cool! Like hams working DX. by the_rajah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This one is not a distance record, but it did span continents and is an interesting article. Here's an article from last year about longer distances, albeit with higher power gear.

    The ham radio record for 2.4 GHz is a lot longer, but it's a great start. Here are some results from Region 1, Europe, including Earth-Moon-Earth.

    Here's the site for the San Bernadino Microwave Society (Hams). They've been doing this sort of thing for ages.

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  5. Marconi.... by Rhubarb+Crumble · · Score: 2, Funny
    ....did this in 1901 between europe and america, and it took them 103 years to do it over 1/1000th the distance?

    Oh, you meant wireless TCP/IP? Why didn't you say so.

    1. Re:Marconi.... by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      *Oh, you meant wireless TCP/IP? Why didn't you say so.*

      because this is slashdot! it would be so much more work to say that "first amateur wifi link between africa and europe"(Obviously tcp/ip has been transferred there before this by some wireless links..).

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  6. I have always believed that the bedrock... by Dagny+Taggert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    of a successful democracy is the free flow of information without government interference. I hope this is a good start for the continent. After all, there is no more free medium for the dissemination of information than the web. After all, why is China so scared of unfiltered access?

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    1. Re:I have always believed that the bedrock... by tcdk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The bedrock of a successful democracy is people who has had a decent meal recently. When they have had it, they may start to wonder about making a better and maybe more democratic future for themselves...

      Linking up africa will not solve their problems...

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  7. This is brilliant by CdBee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Forget all the predictable comments about satellite links being cheaper, the bandwidth being a bit low for a trans-continental link, etc, this proves one thing:

    No matter how repressive a government becomes in its monitoring or control of internet technology, geeks the world over can use this project as a reference work: Don't like your internet strained by official censors? Just beam a link over the border to an open proxy.

    People like us can use this technology to open repressed populations up to communication.

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    1. Re:This is brilliant by user+no.+590291 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know that that would be such a good idea. A radiating microwave transceiver with enough power to cross an ocean would be an easy target for a direction finding van, or missile if a repressive government were so inclined.

  8. Anyone else notice? by marnargulus · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you look at the picture closely you can see dozens of nerds with laptops boating around.

  9. Based on My Experience in Tangiers by nightsweat · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sure the wireless signal was then immediately hustled into a rug and kaftan shop.

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  10. Coool by L3on · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I great example of how regular 802.11 wireless is showing its strengths, however you all realize there are limits. Eventually we will depend on laser transmission of data due to the massive distances it can easily cover. Furthermore, I remember seeing another test when a group of people in the middle of the Moab desert made a record of something around 30 miles with a standard cisco card and a very odd homemade antenna which was made from fine metal mesh screen and wood in a pyramid shape. Does anyone else remember seeing that? I can't seem to find a link.

  11. HAM radio has been doing this for years by scsirob · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Packet Radio has been providing free digital links across the globe for decades. Nothing new about this..

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    1. Re:HAM radio has been doing this for years by throwaway18 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The rules vary between country. Encryption and commercial use is generally not allowed. Discussing politics or religion is frowned upon.
      BBS operators enforce the rules or risk their licenses.

      Before the internet largly killed off packet radio in the UK it was mostly 1200baud with a throughput on a shared half duplex bbs channel of about 20 bytes per second. Some people had faster point to point links which didn't make much difference to the overall experiance due to the slow links between bbs's.

      Discussions and file transfers took place in a store and forward manner similar to newsgroups and fidonet. It took a few weeks for a message to get from Europe to Australia. People generally left their computers on for a few hours to download a days messages and read offline.

      A small number of people played with TCP/IP but I don't think they ever routed traffic over more than small regions.

  12. Here it is. by FreeLinux · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does anyone else remember seeing that? I can't seem to find a link.

    Sure, here it is. Scroll down for pictures.

  13. 20m above sea level? - Suprising by reality-bytes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd just been thinking about the altitude required to 'see-over' the horizon to the other point. Does just 20m above sea level mean the Tangiers antenna must be very high up?

    Now my maths is useless, but it says the Tarifa antenna at Castillo de Guzmán el Bueno is 20m above mean sea level and the Tangiers antenna position is unknown but 32,000m away.

    From that can anyone work out the required height of the Tangiers antenna to have line of sight over the curvature of the Earth?

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  14. In other news... by p4ul13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... the sales figures for Pringles in Spain and Morocco have sky-rocketed.

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  15. That's about 20 miles by daehrednud · · Score: 2, Informative

    For us non-metric system Americans

  16. Internet + Power = Information by ElDuderino44137 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey There,

    My friend is in the Peace Corps in West Africa.

    I think they need more basic services first.
    Like power.

    I recently sent her a solar powered lantern...
    because she has no good way to read when the sun goes down.
    Previously having used candles.

    Cheers,
    -- The Dude

    1. Re:Internet + Power = Information by therealtroff · · Score: 3, Funny
      I recently sent her a solar powered lantern... because she has no good way to read when the sun goes down.
      I'm not so sure this will solve her problems.
    2. Re:Internet + Power = Information by PortWineBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I recently put together some older laptops for distribution by a Peace Corps volunteer in Africa. I received a great email from the end recipient, a Kenyan man named Jack. I've removed his full name for the sake of privacy.

      Dear ALL,

      Receive Warm Greetings from Kenya. My names are_________

      I want to sincrerely thank you all for your generous donation for development work in Africa, Kenya. All of you played various roles that have resulted to a product, IBM Laptop, which has reached me to support my development work. I promise to update you in my endeavors with time.

      What I do in Kenya I work with an institution called Tropical Institute of Community Health and Development (TICH) in Africa situated in Kisumu City, a towm in Western part of Kenya near Lake Victoria; Nyanza Province.

      I train and work with community health workers, widows, orphans, small scale business persons, farmers, water and sanitation workers, institutions, community based organizations at the grassroots. These I do to support the vulnerable and disadvantage members of the society majority of them living in rural and informal settlement sites (slums) in towns. I believe they have a right to live a dignified livelihood if our scarce resources can be mobilized and reallocated in the most equitable way.

      It is a struggle always to try and keep with the pace of the community information and support without adequate facilities to store and process their information and technical support. Your donation, the laptop, will surely improve my efficiency and consistency in handling information that is so vital for decision making towards supporting the disadvantaged members of our society.

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  17. For the love of GOD by DasBub · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's "TANGIER" not "TANGIERS".

    It's an old city, not a mobbed-up casino.

    And yes, I know I'm being extremely anal about this, but if we don't actively correct our mistakes we'll end up watching Survivor reruns and joining Oprah's book club.

    For shame!

  18. Re:Is this a joke? by CvD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Its not a joke... I wish.

    Besides, does anybody still call it the Dark Continent? A colonial era colloquialism.

  19. Mirrors by adelayde · · Score: 2, Informative

    Article: http://mirror.us.psand.net/fadaiat/
    Photos : http://mirror.us.psand.net/fadaiat/photos/index.ht ml

    Unsuspecting server admin wipes sweat of brow.

  20. A collaborative project by spacepleb · · Score: 4, Informative

    It must be pointed out that the link between Europe and Africa was done as a collaborative project involving many people from Europe and Africa, not just Psand, who merely helped. The project is called Transacciones / Fadaiat 2004, an arts / technolgy / social convention dealing with issues surrounding the Straits of Gibraltar, especially immigration. The link was intended to be a short term link to allow participators from both continents to take part, share ideas and create new allegiances. Please also note that the document which goes with it is rough notes written before attempting the link, and was never meant to be fully accurate.

  21. Re:Cool AND collaborative by spacepleb · · Score: 2, Informative

    The original posting is somewhat inaccurate. It must be pointed out that the link between Europe and Africa was done as a collaborative project involving many people from Europe and Africa, not just Psand, who merely helped. The project is called Transacciones / Fadaiat 2004, an arts / technolgy / social convention dealing with issues surrounding the Straits of Gibraltar, especially immigration. The link was intended to be a short term link to allow participators from both continents to take part, share ideas and create new allegiances. Please also note that the document which goes with it is rough notes written before attempting the link, and was never meant to be fully accurate. I must say a hearty congratulations to all involved.

  22. Re:The only problem by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 2, Informative

    I worked on a nine mile shoot last year going across a shipping channel. Remember that it is not like a laser, there is a cone of coverage going both directions called the fresnel zone. You must maintain at least 60% coverage in this zone to keep communications up ( check out http://www.firstmilewireless.com/calc_fresnel.html ) It is quite easy to calculate curvature of the earth, antenna height on both sides, distance between antennas, and finally how big a ship would have to be to block more than 40% of the fresnel zone and drop the connection. In a sense you are right, but it does work quite a bit better than you think.

  23. Most fiber in a bundle is SUPPOSED to be dark. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apparently it is mostly dark, because no one can pay to use it

    Most fiber in a bundle is SUPPOSED to be dark at this point. To lay less than a bunch more than you initially need is incredibly pound-foolish in the long run - and even the short run.

    Nearly all the cost of a fiber run is laying the cable - whether digging a trench around a continent or paying it out on the ocean floor. The incremental cost of adding fibers to the bundle, as a percentage of the cost of laying the bundle, is miniscule.

    The amount of data that can be carried by a single pair of fibers is enormous. So one pair can probably handle all you can sell in the first few years. And even in that one pair, half of it is proably spare - reserved for routing around breaks by slinging the data the other way around the loop. So if you look at the contacted bandwidth versus the fiber's bandwidth, even your one "lit" fiber looks "half-dark".

    But you don't just lay a pair of fibers. You need spares even initially. (Else what do you do if a fiber breaks? Dig/dredge up the run to replace it? Or use the spare fiber.) So now even with one set of spares you've doubled your capacity and not used any of the "extra". 75% "dark" and looking worse.

    But what happens a couple years down the road when your capacity is all contracted out and you need more? If you laid down extra fibers you just light 'em up. If you didn't, you need to DIG ANOTHER TRENCH AROUND THE CONTNENT to lay more.

    So of COURSE you spent a few percent extra, and laid maybe 20 or 50 or 100 times as many fibers as you initially need. You don't EVER want to dig that trench again.

    But do you light 'em up now? Of COURSE not! The incremental cost of LAYING extra fibers is tiny. But the incremental cost of LIGHTING more is nearly the same as lighting the first ones. And every year the equipment gets cheaper and can push more data through the fibers (though not enough more to eliminate the need to light more fibers eventually). The longer you wait to light them, the more bandwidth bang for your buck - so you delay deploying the BOXES as long as possible.

    Thus, if your planners had any savvy, nearly ALL your fibers are dark, and will be for decades.

    But some clueless "analysts" assume that the cost of laying fiber is in direct proportion to the amount of fiber laid. So they look at how much got laid, and how much is currently lit. And they trumpet the "dark fiber" "problem" to the world, convincing investers that the far-seeing planners who laid it have wasted their investors' money. Oh HORRORS!

    In fact, the people (if any) who wasted their investors' money (at least in the fiber laying process) are the ones who spent nearly as much to only lay enough fibers to handle the immediate needs.

    The collapse of the long-haul market was due mainly to the fact that EVERYBODY laid fibers, assuming they could each get a big chunk of the market. Too many suppliers led to a price war that took most of 'em down.

    But the "dark fiber problem" scare stories provided a bit extra push, sucking needed next-stage investment out of some companies that might have made it otherwise and leading to their demise.

    As a result of this scaremongering we'll get more consolidation, and higher prices, than we otherwise would gotten without their panic.

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