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Canadarm Company Bidding on Hubble Repair

mhotchin writes "The Globe and Mail says that NASA has evaluated all the submissions for a robot repair mission to Hubble, and the only bid requested is from the Canadian company that developed the Canadarm. It appears they would copy the Special Purpose Dexterous Manipulator ('Dexter'), developed for ISS, as the main unit for the repairs."

45 comments

  1. helping is nice by everyplace · · Score: 3, Funny

    If ever there was a company to lend an arm to the repairs...

  2. These guys are brilliant by MrAndrews · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I know some engineers from MDR and they are extremely bright people. If you happen to bump into one in a bar somewhere, be sure not to start talking about ergonomics, because you'll get drowned in actual information (rather than the pseudo-information average humans have). They deserve all the praise they get on these things, because I don't know anyone that works harder on more complex systems than these guys do.

    On the other hand, I hear they know nothing about hockey, so they're not all good...

    1. Re:These guys are brilliant by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Who talks about ergonomics to strangers in a bar?

    2. Re:These guys are brilliant by MrAndrews · · Score: 2, Funny

      It all depends on who's buying the drinks, my friend.

    3. Re:These guys are brilliant by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Well, if they are buying the drinks they can talk about what every the hell they want.. ;->

  3. Conversation... by stienman · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Sure, we can fix your satellite for ya, eh, but it'll cost ya two cases and season box seats for hockey."

    -Adam

    1. Re:Conversation... by Lew+Pitcher · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Sure, we can fix your satellite for ya, eh, but it'll cost ya two cases and season box seats for hockey."

      Your comment is obviously not 'Canadian'. You didn't get the slang right. The correct quote would be:

      Sure, we can fix your satellite for you. But, it'll cost you a couple'a twofours and some "blues", eh.

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    2. Re:Conversation... by Glasswire · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's assuming they like Blue. They may be 'EX' guys, Canajun drinkers or their one of those pussies drinkin american shit like Bud.

      ( Old Cdn joke: Why drinking american beer like making love in a canoe? They're both fuck'n near water! )

    3. Re:Conversation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are both using "eh" incorrectly. Its proper use is to turn a statement into a question when one isn't 100% sure, eh?

    4. Re:Conversation... by SEE · · Score: 1

      "Blues"? Bah. Everyone knows the number one beer in Canada is the King of Beers.

    5. Re:Conversation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or out in my neck of the woods, they don't even sell Blue.

    6. Re:Conversation... by grozzie2 · · Score: 1
      That's assuming they like Blue. They may be 'EX' guys, Canajun drinkers or their one of those pussies drinkin american shit like Bud.

      Silly americans.

      two-fours = cases of beer.

      blues = tickets in the blue seats.

    7. Re:Conversation... by thufir · · Score: 1

      Actually, "eh" has many, many purposes; the purpose you mentioned is only one of them.

      I hit your dog with my car eh.

      It the noise it made was THIS LOUD eh.

      You're not mad, eh?

  4. Splendid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that the USA is on the decline, it's up to the other countries to pick up the slack. Somebody needs to be a beacon of progress and exploration.

    1. Re:Splendid by dolphin558 · · Score: 0

      Don't mix US government funded space programs with the overall progression of the US space industry. US citizen-led space ventures are going splendidly thank you very much.

  5. NASA outsourcing? by kryptKnight · · Score: 1

    First they offer an X prize like contest now they give out this job, has NASA stopped trying to put out original work in favor of sposoring others?

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    1. Re:NASA outsourcing? by merdark · · Score: 4, Informative

      NASA always out sourced a bit. This company made bot h the shuttle arm, and the ISS arm, it's not surprising they were asked to do the robotic repairs for the hubble.

    2. Re:NASA outsourcing? by raider_red · · Score: 2, Funny

      They might as well. Their last piece of original work just flies in circles.

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  6. I.E. Re-use by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 0

    Why re-invent the wheel?

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    1. Re:I.E. Re-use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're not reinventing the wheel. It's more like they take the last incarnation of the wheel, get some ideas from it and make another wheel. Reinventing the wheel would be to let another company do a new Canadarm from scratch.

  7. Dexter's Laboratory is now a Vaccum by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Had to be said. (for those who don't know, Dexter is this crazy mad-scientist kid on a Cartoon Network show).

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    1. Re:Dexter's Laboratory is now a Vaccum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love that show. "Eureka! I am laminated!"

  8. ISS helps USA? by Pi_0's+don't+shower · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Go figure, NASA decides to abandon the ISS once the USA's commitment is finished, and somehow, the science used to build the ISS due to international collaboration just might save one of our most invaluable satellite telescopes. I think as long as something is done to save the HST for a few more years, we're in excellent shape. FYI -- the HST is the only instrument that can observe the lyman alpha/beta/gamma/etc. emission lines from the furthest galaxies (z >= 7)... despite all the redshifting, the James Webb Space Telescope won't be able to observe the most powerful of emission lines as the HST still can!

    1. Re:ISS helps USA? by Deltawolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      The HST can see to the farthest galaxys but can it see into Britney Spear's window like the NSA spy satellites can?

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    2. Re:ISS helps USA? by darkmeridian · · Score: 1
      Go figure, NASA decides to abandon the ISS [nasa.gov] once the USA's commitment is finished, and somehow, the science used to build the ISS due to international collaboration [bbc.co.uk] just might save one of our most invaluable satellite telescopes.


      Uh...isn't Hubble our only space telescope? At least, so far?
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    3. Re:ISS helps USA? by snake_dad · · Score: 3, Informative
      Uh...isn't Hubble our only space telescope? At least, so far?

      Try googling for Chandra, Spitzer, Compton, IRAS, SOHO, HEAO, or Hipparcos, combined with "space observatory". Or just "space observatory".

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    4. Re:ISS helps USA? by grozzie2 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Go figure, NASA decides to abandon the ISS once the USA's commitment is finished, and somehow, the science used to build the ISS due to international collaboration just might save one of our most invaluable satellite telescopes.

      Actually, the canadarm has been on shuttles since very early in the shuttle program. Using them to work on Hubble is nothing new, reference this photo . That's the shuttle variation of the arm holding Hubble in preparation for a past repair mission. The real difference in this proposal, is the use of a second arm from the same folks, with more manipulators etc, to do the repair work, instead of sending an astronaut out for a walk. Nasa is risk adverse, with only 3 years to perform the mission, they wont try find a 'new' contractor at this stage, they'll go with a known quantity, the folks that have been building them arms for as long as they've been in use on shuttles.

      About the only downside to this style of repair mission, it'll emphasize the lack of relavence of 'manned missions' with modern robotic technology available. Cant help but wonder if that's really a bad thing. A robotic mission to service the Hubble will likely cost a LOT less than a manned shuttle launch, and achieve the same end result. Cant see any downside to it.

    5. Re:ISS helps USA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What's with the NSA bug up your ass? You ought to at least learn what they do before you show what a dumbass you are with the "seeing" into windows and the "looking into space" comments.

      One thing worse than listening to the tin foil crowd blather on is listening to people who think they are knowledgeable about the intelligence community, and aren't.

    6. Re:ISS helps USA? by Deltawolf · · Score: 1

      I never said I was. And it was a statement in jest, not a serious one. Think before you speak.

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  9. And soon Canadians will make the launch vehicles by madprogrammer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It won't be for this launch, or even the next one, but hopefully Canada will soon have companies making launch vehicles:
    The da Vinci Project and Canadian Arrow are showing great potential!

  10. Hubble by Deltawolf · · Score: 0

    Hubble breaks again? It seems to me like it would be more worth our time to just use the hubble as target practice (get the bb guns kids!) rather than spend more taxpayer's money to salvage a dying satellite. Making a new, better satellite or simply pointing some of the NSA's spy satellites in the other direction would be a more viable solution than using a robot to fix it yet again.

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    1. Re:Hubble by bluGill · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hubble isn't broke, 3 months or 3,000 miles since the last oil change is nearly up. They just need to get it into the nearest Jippy Lube for an oil change and it will be good as new for anouther 3 months/3,000 miles.

  11. Re:The Canadians do the right thing again by agraupe · · Score: 0

    You're most absolutely welcome... you guys seem to need it a lot.

  12. Re:And soon Canadians will make the launch vehicle by sreid · · Score: 1

    pfft with the cons comming in many cuts should be made in that area, farmers don't see the use of space stuff

  13. First time... by clem9796 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think this is the first time that the States has even mentioned that the arm is in fact a Canadian innovation. In movies, news, etc. I've never seen it mentioned before. Kinda like a wide range of other things that the US tries to take credit for.. I know, I know.. time for a flamebait mod, but it's true.

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    1. Re:First time... by dmatos · · Score: 1

      Isn't it kinda' hard for them to take credit for it when it's got a giant friggin' Canadian flag on it?

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    2. Re:First time... by wjwlsn · · Score: 1

      Nope, we sure as hell mentioned that it was Canadian technology when it fritzed out on the ISS back in 2002. Seriously, though, give me a break... NASA and US news publications almost always refer to it as the "Canadarm". I think that makes a pretty damn clear connection to Canada.

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    3. Re:First time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when it failed, then it wasn't American.

    4. Re:First time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Up here you can't get away from being reminded the Canadarm is alleged Canadian tech. ("you're only operating in a vacuum after launch.") Perhaps the parent poster thought there was some contract that required the reminder in all references?

      Anyway wjwlsn, I'd apologize for his troll but I'm sure you've got twits just like that down south too & understand.

    5. Re:First time... by pnewhook · · Score: 1

      Last time I was at the San Diego Aerospace museum, the shuttle model had an American flag on the robotic arm. I bet most Americans have no idea that arm is Canadian.

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  14. Re:And soon Canadians will make the launch vehicle by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2, Informative

    It won't be for this launch, or even the next one, but hopefully Canada will soon have companies making launch vehicles:

    I doubt this. We're in a horrible launch location (you want to be close to the equator), and the market is already pretty saturated (Arienne-5 and other solutions on the expensive side and Russian boosters on the less expensive side).

    I'll be the first to cheer if we do get Canadian launch facilities (way too much red tape getting things launched by the US), but I'm not holding my breath.

  15. Re:And soon Canadians will make the launch vehicle by grozzie2 · · Score: 1
    I doubt this. We're in a horrible launch location (you want to be close to the equator),

    This is only true for equatorial orbits. While it's true you do get some 'free ride' from the earths rotation when launching from the equator, it's actually 'penalty' and delta V that has to be removed from the vehicle to achieve a stable polar orbit. USA launches eastbound from JSC because it's an over the water shot, and it's 'significantly' south. They launch westbound from Vandenberg because it's over the water, and you need to give the vehicle 1100 mph westbound velocity to negate the rotation of the earth, to achive a stable polar orbit. Polar orbits are the most useful variety for missions that have a need to see the entire surface of the earth over time.

    An ideal launch location has 1000 miles of 'nothing of value' downrange of the launch site. The usa likes to use water, hence locations on the 2 coasts. A launch location in northern Canada that sends vehicles over the Arctic ice pack is the 'ideal' location for launching polar orbit loads. The farther north its located, the less eastbound velocity penalty it accrues from the earth's rotation.