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Indiana Launches Statewide Productivity System

TaylorJo writes "Lt. Governor of Indiana Kathy Davis today unveiled a new technology program designed to give all Hoosiers free access to a full suite of computer software tools. The SimIndiana software permits residents to access their personal files and applications from any computer at any time. The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it. The program also provides an email address and remote storage on SimIndiana servers."

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  1. Multi-platform by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it.

    See? They should have written it in Java.

  2. The first step... by gevmage · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I wonder how long it will take before it's required to have this access to pay taxes, register to vote, etc? At that point, I'd be annoyed.

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    1. Re:The first step... by cide1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree, changing all the clocks is just a pain. The current system has worked well so far, why change? I have yet to find software that can't cope with it, and it's nice to not have to change the VCR, your watch, the clock in your car, the clock in your other car, the wall clock, the microwave, the oven, the alarm clock, the answering machine, and whatever else has a clock these days.

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    2. Re:The first step... by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It was sweet getting to watch the late shows early after everyone else had switched. Doesn't Gary switch with Chicago?
      FWIW, Ben Franklin came up with the idea as a way for farmers to more or less work with the sun (and not be vastly different from city folk's schedules) in the 1700s. It was implemented in the oil crisis to reduce electricity consumption. I think we keep it around now so politicians can laugh at the folks who show up an hour late/or early to church or other Sunday meetings.

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    3. Re:The first step... by wulfhere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amen!! I moved up to Lake County about 5 years ago (one of I think 4 counties that uses Daylight Savings Time), and changing the clocks is a TOTAL pain in the ass.

      Not to mention that in the winter, it starts getting dark about the time the kids are let out of school...

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  3. You get... by GuyinVA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...what you pay for.

  4. One word: by tomknight · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Good

    Okay, a few more words....
    Yes, you need to use Windows, and yes, we can't really trust the government (the next government, or maybe the one after that) with our personal/sensitive data/pr0n, but isn't it a good thing in principle that this is happening?

    Tom.

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    1. Re:One word: by pointym5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why should a Mac-using taxpayer be happy about this?

    2. Re:One word: by tomknight · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Or a linux using tax-payer, indeed?
      Because it's a sign that local government is getting clued up about computers.

      Having to use a Windows client does indeed suck. Maybe Apple will see the potential damage to its business and push for a diversity?

      Tom.

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    3. Re:One word: by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Chiming in: Or linux users for that matter. Apps like this are probably best written in Java, or it should be entirely web based and work in at least IE, Mozilla and Opera.
      I saw nothing about Open Source on the SimIndiana site, but this app should definately be open source software. Given taxpayers can benefit from it's use, but they should also have some say in the design aspects (like supported platforms) seeing as how they are intended client. Nothing like ignoring your intended client's needs/desires/whims to turn them off from your software. I guess the folks in charge assume that Everybody in Indiana uses Windows, or they don't matter. It's also probable that all of the publicly accessible computers (at libraries, etc) are running Windows, maybe users of these machines are the intended clients.

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  5. Tried to create an account... by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tried to create an account, but the site's getting slow. Anyway, at the whatis page says:

    Every student, every parent, every business, EVERYONE who lives in the State of Indiana can use SimIndiana. The only requirement is that you register for the software with a valid Indiana address.

    Can't we forge an address anyway? NY Times thinks I'm from Anchorage, Alaska.

    If you create a document in SimWord® (SimIndiana's word processor), you do not have to save it to a disk or to a computer's hard drive. With SimIndiana, you have the option to save your document in your virtual drive on the SimIndiana server.

    It's simply a glorified virtual hard disk service, paid for by the government.

    1. Re:Tried to create an account... by caseydk · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Odds are they're going to try to reconcile the number of accounts at a given address to tax records and/or school records.

      Gov:

      "We have 3 thousand people who seem to live at 100 Main St, Indianapolis, but only 3 people filed taxes listing that address. Hmmm..."

    2. Re:Tried to create an account... by Unnngh! · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The funny thing is, the TOS does not specify that you actually must live in Indiana. How on earth are they going to verify that each address is a valid address? How about multiple computers at a single address (i.e. re-registrations when you forget your login, your kid registers after you have, etc.)?

      But after the posting of this article, the service will probably be more SimSlashdot than SimIndiana;)

  6. Re:I'll pass, thanks. by caseydk · · Score: 4, Insightful


    What are the TOS?

    I wonder what's going to happen the first time they start to lose their users' data? Do you sue the government knowing that the settlement will just be funded by charging the comsumer (ie the public) more?

    I'm sure we'll be able to trust Indiana as an honest player. People gripe about Google scanning your email, but other seem to think that the government should store their files for them?

    (former Indiana resident for 4 years during college)

  7. I live in Indiana and this is the first I've... by Dagny+Taggert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...heard of this. I, too, would love to trust my state government with my important docs. After all, we all know they handle our property taxes soooo well.

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  8. Corrected Story Submission by BandwidthHog · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Additions in bold:
    TaylorJo writes "Lt. Governor of Indiana Kathy Davis today unveiled a new technology program designed to give all Hoosiers who purchase Microsoft Windows free (ahem) access to a full suite of computer software tools. The SimIndiana software permits residents who have already purchased Microsoft Windows to access their personal files and applications from any computer that runs Microsoft Windows at any time. The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it. The program also provides an email address and remote storage on SimIndiana servers."
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    1. Re:Corrected Story Submission by TopShelf · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Man, what a horrible scheme! How dare they set up a system that only serves the overwhelming majority of PC users!

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    2. Re:Corrected Story Submission by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I prefer "operating system produced by a convicted monopolist," thanks.

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  9. Good idea but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really wish people would make Microsoft keep its own monopoly instead of helping them by making IE only or Windows only stuff. They could've at least given the protocol so that if somebody with a Mac or something else wanted to could make their own.

    Really, I thought government was supposed to be generally non-discriminatory. It's like "Congrats! We have a super-duper new highway system. Oh, only Ford motor vehicles can use it."

  10. Heh! by dannyelfman · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I wonder how long it will take before some enterprising 12 year old figures out how to own this system.

    Was it Regan who said, ``Government does what doesn't need to be done, poorly''?

  11. Might Shut Down by thpdg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The last bits of the article report that the system is just a 2 year trial, with possible extension. What happens at that time? Your materials will magically disappear? Thousands of warnings get sent out that you miss, and next thing you know, you life's work, written in SimWord, which can only be opened by SimWord, is gone forever? Even if you have the file, you have no license to SimWord to open it? This is like trusting any of the other dot-com gimmicks that came and went in the past 10 years. Where is the mp3.com archive today? What about Hotmail suddenly closing accounts? What if it is a SimIndiana account, and you had all your financial reports on there?
    This is just too freaking dangerous to be more then just a handy accessory, but how many people will take it seriously?

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  12. Broadband required? by MacBrave · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the system requirements:
    "TCP/IP (Internet Connection required for installation); 56 Kbps or higher modem (128 Kbps ISDN or better recommended)."

    Considering most of Indiana is rural and those living in those areas with internet connectiions are still using 56K dial-up, this could be a big stumbling block to geeting SimIndiana off the ground.

    My parents and MIL live in a rural area of Indiana and even though they have 56k modems the phone line quality is so poor that 29.2kbps is the best they can get.

  13. More TOS goodness by Quixote · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This caught my eye:

    This State of Indiana and STI have a three year contract for STI to provide the Services and Software to city residents; however, the State of Indiana has the right to terminate this contract earlier. Therefore, any data, files or other information You store on an STI server may be deleted if the contract between STI and the State of Indiana is terminated or when it expires, if not sooner. STI cannot guarantee that You will be warned before Your data, files, email, content, or other information is deleted. (emphasis mine)

    Let me get this straight: after they've got the citizens of Indiana using this system for 3 years, they'll be able to blackmail the state from ever terminating the contract. Wow....

  14. Does it include this? by Anti+Frozt · · Score: 2, Insightful
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  15. Offtopic? by RegalBegal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the thought of having personal files and access to personal files on a central resource could yeild comical problems such as a father finding his daughter nude from her indiana boyfriend's personal files. No class? maybe. Offtopic? nahh.

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  16. Re:I'll pass, thanks. by FauxPasIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > People gripe about Google scanning your email, but other seem to think that the government should store their files for them?

    I can't vote to oust the CEO of Google.

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  17. Re:Encryption and Compression are mutually exclusi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's compression and encryption (ie, compression first). The idea of this is precisely the reason you listed, that compression tends to collapse redundancy. Less redundancy makes analysis of an encrypted file more difficult. This is exactly why GPG/PGP by default compresses data before encrypting it.