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Fahrenheit 9/11 Discussion
xerid writes "I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 last night, and the theatre was packed & sold out for each showing. Today, I read on Michael Moore.com about the movie breaking records. However, what I haven't seen was coverage on Slashdot, about the movie's opening day." I saw the film on friday and was really impressed. But while it speaks much truth, and has many funny parts as well as truly heartbreaking ones, I don't know how many votes it will sway. But since there is very little other news so far today, why not talk amongst yourselves!
That's why i always watch Fox news with a bucked of popcorn
Now we have two subjects for the flame war! Cool!
That's why I always read Slashdot with a bucket of popcorn.
yah Ive seen some stuff about this movie....this is where Michael Moore ate all those "supersized" hamburgers from McDonalds for 4 years straight... god its disgusting what he did to himself, he looks like he probably sweats when he reads.
Uh yeah.
In other words, this pretty much sums up your position, eh?
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They won't let me take popcorn into the nudie bars anymore ;(
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If you really do want to hide something, try to be as discrete about it as possible.
Wow. Keeping my secrets discreet...why didn't I think of that.
***Spoilers Ahead***
There is a scene were Dubya personally interviews Saddam. Saddam replies to Bush: "George, I am your father". Bush: "Noooooooo!" And then a light saber battle ensues.
there is already two films planned to counter this one. There are also two businessmen in Arizona that are planning conservative film festivals...
I believe that Michael Moore is to left-wing/democrats what Ann Coulter is to the ring-wing/republicans. Except one is a small fat guy with beard and the other... isn't
Actually, if you listen to the right people, I think you'll find that Coulter is a small fat guy with a beard...
(It's a Rotten Library link, dudes, nothing sick or twisted there...)
By summer it was all gone...now shesmovedon. --
And on my way to see the movie, I listened to Savage Nation for a different viewpoint.
My point in making the post was, if I want to get into a political discussion on the merits of this movie, I will go to a political site.
Heh, I thought I was the only one who listens to both Hannity and Franken.
I get tired, though, of reading about what does and doesn't belong on Slashdot. If you want a site that does only technology I'm sure you can find one. Even easier, you could just, you know, not read this article. On the right side of your browser you will find a little elevator thingy known as a "scroll bar". Just click on that and pull the mouse toward you to bypass any article which does not interest you.
Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad, get me out of this.
the man is basically dishonest
Who are you talking about - Moore or Bush?
Maybe Moore will cancel out Limbaugh? Sort of like a proton, anti-proton thing.
Extremism sucks in all its forms.
Isolationist. The world is beyond your 4 walls. Education is always valuable.
I live in a triangular room, you insensitive clod!
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
A spokesman for Lions Gate Films said the company debuted the movie in the two theaters to help build good word-of-mouth -- friend telling friend --
Are Americans really that stupid as to need an explanation for what the term "Word-of-Mouth" means?
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America is a two party system.
The Republicans, equivelent to the UKs conservative party, and the Democrats, equivelent to the UKs conservative party.
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I remember once reading about a (17th century) playwright who had (proudly) measured the success of his play by the fact that four ushers had been killed at the premiere.
Man is a slave because freedom is difficult, whereas slavery is easy.
That's why i always watch Fox news with a bucked of popcorn
"What you don't know about popcorn could KILL YOU! Comining up next....on FOX News!"
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
You hate the world that much?
And incidentally, it's hardly a surprise than an anti-Bush, anti-war film would win high awayds in a French film festival.
Yes because French film critics aren't interested in films at all, they sit around all day talking about how much they hate George Bush and the war in Iraq.
Actually, you might want to think about growing up and joining the real world some day.
Just be thankful that Jon Katz didn't review it.
It does mean the movie is not a documentary. A documentary is meant to report facts- a subset of all facts which supports your view, perhaps, but if this movie does not do that then it is not a documentary. It's a getBushoutofofficumentary.
Presumably, only a Troll could be pro-bush.
Speaking as a troll, I think that the only way this great nation can be free of all the evil communists and terrorists is by electeing GWB as world leader.
"Michael Moore is an extremist. Extreme left-wing in this case, if I recall correctly. I saw Bowling for Columbine and it was a a good movie, but always, ALWAYS remember that's just ONE side of the spectrum."
Because the extreme right-wing is so under-represented in american media -- you'd better be careful you're not getting a biased view by watching this!
-Condi Rice is on camera saying "There is a definite connection between Iraq and 9/11." We now know that isn't true.
A partisan congressional committee decided there was no link between Osama and Saddam. This from a culture that created the phrase "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Both had a larger enemy in the US than they did with each other. I'll bet there really was a connection.
On the other hand, an impartial judge agreed with the claims of victims of terrorism that there WAS enough evidence to link Saddam and Osama, and allowed a suit against Iraq for reparrations for the deaths of their loved ones.
Just because a congressional committee (The only creature known to man to have over 4 legs, 4 eyes, and 2 mouths, and yet have no brain) decided for political reasons there was no connection, and a Big Fat Stupid White Guy claims there was no connection, this is not enough to say "We now know that isn't true."
- No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades really cramps his style.
A damn shame, huh? It's a good thing we conservatives do naught *but* tell the truth! And if, for some wild reason, we don't always stick to the facts (unheard of!), we always make sure to point out where our lies are.
Thank God for the Bible! It's kept GWB II the most honest guy there is, even after the White House was tainted with the evil liberal lies of the previous 8 years! Imagine all of the lies that W could be telling- but we can be sure he never does thanks to that little black Book.
Praise Jesus!
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There is no debatability, he is commander in chief, the moment the words "we are under attack" reached him he should have gotten up and commanded. He didn't. That should be all you need to know.
And what would you have had him do in those 5 minutes? Assuming that he didn't need to stay there while the secret service cleared an exit? Would you have liked him to get on the phone and call Washington and tell them.... what? To figure out what the hell is going on? To wake up all the generals? To figure out if more are comming? What would have happened differently had the man jumped up out of his seat screamed out "HOLY SHIT KIDS, WE'RE GOING TO FUCKING DIE!" and then run out of the room? Beleive it or not, the government can operate mostly without a president. Furthermore, there was nothing for him to command, because everything he could have ordered was already being done.
What is debatable is whether or not he should have gone into the classroom in the first place after having been informed of the first attack and having seen the memos al qaeda was planning on attacking the world trade center, and was planning on hijacking airplanes.
1) The memo never said they were planning on attacking the WTC.
2) In the past, Hijackings have been used as hostage situations for political purposes. Something like this was a very remote possibility.
3) After the 1st plane hit, no body knew what had happened, and most people thought it was an accident. Planes have hit the WTC before, and it's not a terrorist attack. No one knew what to think of it until the second one hit.
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I have really had it with this site. The libs have taken over.
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You're assuming that Osama Bin Laden isn't already in US Custody. I have a feeling that we already have him, and he'll conveniently be "captured" publicly in September or October (just before the US Election).
yeah, and then bush will have elvis play at his re-election party
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in the United States goes from 10cm to 20cm, wheras the ruler for other nations goes from 0cm to 10cm.
This is the US, son, Land of the Free - so you can just take your newfangled "centimeters" system and go back to Russia.
At least bush doesn't flip flop on the issues. He sticks with what he believes, popular or not.
Yeah. He believes that an imaginary guy in the sky talks to him every day and tells him to kill people.
He also believes that one day, he'll be able to read all of those big words in "My Pet Goat".
I don't need to receive a dirty sanchez to know that I don't want one. That's really what Michael Moore would like to give movie goers. He has plunged is hard mic into the bowells of political bullshit and wants to smear it all over movie goers faces. I'll pass.
And *his* is an Oval Office...
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
We're trying to. Sovereignty for Iraq in just a few days.
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"... by telling people in the U.K. and Canada that we're a bunch of obnoxious idiots."
He didn't have to tell us. We knew.
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No, dude, that's a rooster.
Absolutely true. There is still some debate, however, as to exactly which half.
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and worth every penny. GW rules!
That "tax credit" you got last year, $400/family? Well that's long gone by now.
Yeah, but the extra gov't debt to cover that $400? That'll be with us forever!
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in the end of the day, no parent can sign their kid up for the military, only you can sign you up for the military. and thats the end of the story.
missing from the movie is michael moore trying to get john kerry to recruit his kids to join the military and fight in iraq. he did afterall vote to go to iraq didn't he?
I think this quote by Jeff Jarvis pretty much sums up his cognitive abilities:
There's a difference between someone you disagree with like Limbaugh, and an outright liar like Moore....
Apparently Limbaugh is not a liar, and Michael Moore is.
Jarvis must be on Oxycotin as well.