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Sun to GPL Project Looking Glass

elleomea writes "According to The Register, Sun is releasing Project Looking Glass, their new GNU/Linux based 3D window managing system, under the GPL during their JavaOne conference (beginning today)." The screenshots of Looking Glass make it out to be very pretty. I'm not sure if I have the spare CPU cycles to power such an environment, but it's sure nice to drool over.

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  1. Hmmm... by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Looks pretty, but wont computers at this level be more concerned with process cycles than spending time on a fancy GUI?

    Here's hoping it's as functional as it is good looking, or it is all for naught.

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  2. No! by turgid · · Score: 5, Funny
    No! But Sun is evil! Sun is in league with M$ and SCO to bring about a 1000 year reign in blood! Slashbot brain can't take any more.... timfoil helmet has ruptured... rotary spacewaves have penetrated.....Arrrggghhhh!!!!

    Game over. Insert Coin to Play.

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  4. Like What? by siskbc · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'd rather use those CPU cycles for something worthwhile i think...

    First, people say this every damned time an improvement is made to a GUI. If anybody listened, we'd all still be using CLI exclusively. Second, most people using their 3 GHz machine for office work most certainly DO have the spare cycles.

    Additionally, it looks like the improvements will really make a usability difference in how we interact with the UI. Keeping notes on an application window, tilting the windows to keep most of the perceptual information (btw, using foreshortening to effectively compress windows is a great idea), making multiple desktops more perceptual, etc are all good ideas that will help people interact more intelligently with their programs.

    I think this is a great start, and with some tightening and more well-implemented ideas, I can't wait to see this in a mainstream OS.

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  5. 3D is Dead, Long Live SVG by Tarantolato · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Looking Glass screenshots are fun to drool over and all I guess, but IMHO the way forward is not adding further complexity to the binary-graphics desktop.

    Rather, it's SVG. XML-based vector graphics allow developers to parse and manipulate graphics the way you would a web page or a config file. They also make remoting applications even easier than with a binary protocol like X. What does this mean for end users? Not a whole terrible lot on the surface. But it does make it easier for developers to apply consistent look and feel with widely-known text munging tools and also make rich networked applications; so in the end there's a significant but non-apparent user benefit.

    Of course the nature of SVG is such that although it looks extremely crisp and neat, it's basically 2D. I think the tradeoff is worth it.

    If you're going to go for the extra overhead anyways, SVG is a much bigger win than 2D any day.

  6. Re:When I see it by ejamie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree. This is lame. The screenshots and all smell to me like someone's PHD thesis.

    As shown this has glaring issues:
    - reading vertical text on side of windows is uncomfortable.
    - how is spinning a window around to look at properties better than opening up a separate properties dialog???
    - java?
    - i would be suprised if human factors has been involved in project to this point.

    If/when this comes to market, it will look and behave much different than shown.

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  7. Re:Pretty... by Flammon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Technology is supposed to be fun too. I think that most people who read this site got into technology because they found it interesting and fun. Looking Glass is a technology with a high fun factor and I welcome it. I can't wait to see what kind of cool stuff will come out of it when it is GPLd.

  8. Re:Pretty... by tabdelgawad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is not the environment, but the primary human interface to the environment, which is the mouse. Having virtual 3D on a computer is completely intuitive to a human being; it's how we organize everything in real life. But mice were born in a 2D environment and that's what they're good at.

    Until they invent and standardize a 3D 'gesturing' interface (think Tom Cruise in Minority Report, for example), the 3D desktop will remain without much practical value.

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  9. Re:It's Java by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know Mr. AC is trying to be funny, but this crap really pisses me off. For one, JAVA IS NOT SLOW. It gained that reputation back when it lacked a JIT compiler. Sun corrected that problem pretty fast, but the idea just won't go away. Granted, some of the APIs are such that they can appear to be quite slow to those who don't know what the hell they're doing. I'm always hearing from people who say "My game only runs at 10 FPS! Whaa! Java Sucks!" To which I usually reply "Are you using BufferStrategy, the core of the 2D gaming API?" The Deer-in-the-Headlights looks on their faces are priceless. To which they then mumble something about thinking Swing was somehow the way to write games.

    Secondly, the Looking Glass project uses OpenGL. I don't care what language you're using, OpenGL performance is limited by the video card and bus, not by the CPU. If your 3D apps are slow, it's because you don't know what the f*** you're doing. That goes for C, C++, Python, Ruby, and yes: JAVA.

  10. Re:When I see it by Dizzle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    File JAVA and its promise of platform independance away with all those AT&T commercials from the mid 90's that promised you would soon be able to check out and read entire books via the internet, make video phone calls, and perform remote heart surgery with their new technology.

    All that stuff is possible now, unless you're referring to how long it took to do it.

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