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Airport Monitoring of Travellers via Blackberry

glhturbo writes "According to this article in Mass. High Tech, Massachusetts State Police stationed at Logan Airport will soon have access (via Blackberry handhelds) to "7 billion records" containing information on "nearly 98 percent of the U.S. population, including, for example, a person's prior residence and with whom he or she lived, criminal information, court filings, vehicles owned, and even restricted government data." The database is from a Massachusetts company, LocatePlus, started by a former policeman who was "on the waiting list for the FBI". Seems like a good tool, but major potential for abuse, and hopefully no false identifications."

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  1. Just to be fair.... by spoonyfork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... I should get to know the same information about the people "screening" me.

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  2. Re:Is it wireless? by Erwos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't see how it's any different than any other "personal information awareness" technology in that respect. I mean, there's always the problem that someone who's not supposed to have access gains it (say, by password).

    There are relatively easy ways to help prevent this sort of abuse, too. Will they be implemented? Let's hope so.

    A Blackberry is not exactly the device I would be using to try to get the records of every person in the system, of course.

    -Erwos

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  3. What year is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Eh? Is it 1984 or 2004? These days I just can't tell.

  4. "seems like a good tool" by aminorex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the editor misspelled "incredibly
    fucking evil".

    That's why I stopped flying.

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  5. Mod up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    seriously man, who knows what lives most guards at airports have led before taking that job. What if they are ex-cons, and this data is just what they were looking for to get their next kickback?

    Like, I won't arrest you if you pay me 10k.... Or I won't tell your wife you've been living in an apartment in Florida with an unmarried woman...

    The potential for abuse is just enormous.

    However, this kind of capability is not going to go away. What we need is a structure in place that will ensure that no abuses take place. It's a cliche, but we need a monitor of the monitors...

    Here's another one (but appropriate): who will monitor the monitors of the monitors?

  6. Re:Mod Parent Up! by user+no.+590291 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can pretty safely assume that if someone has access to a database and something to gain, and no chance of being caught (i.e. no auditing of queries), they will use the information.

  7. Already needs an upgrade. by teamhasnoi · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Truly, it's the missing 2% that we should really be worried about. I'm guessing there's a noticeable lack of CEOs, politicians, and others who can buy, wheedle or threaten their way out of the database.

    When I can find out Bill G's home address, Dick Cheney's driver's licence number, George's arrest record, and Ken Lay's bank balance - then I'll say it's fair.

    Anyone who says this is not ripe for abuse is a shareholder.

  8. The grid? by Raven42rac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Makes me seriously want to live off the grid. I do not feel any more secure knowing some hack has information on 98% of the U.S. population on a glorified palm pilot, what if this device "walks away"? All that info in the wrong hands (ACTUAL BADGUYS, id thieves, spammers, etc) is scary. I hate the fact that when 19 foreign citizens do some bad shit, 300 million legal Americans have to pay for the incompetance of our government to stop it. It is a classic kneejerk reaction, the current administration has eroded 200 years of balanced liberty and security in 4 years, that has to be some kind of record. I feel less safe, and downright ashamed of our preemptive attacks and feeble attempts at nation building. The way the little guy has taken it in the ass in these past 4 years is astounding. Where to begin? The overtime ripoff, outsourcing, tax cuts for the rich, PATRIOT act, PATRIOT II, TIA, DMCA, "show me your papers", and that is just the beginning. I would vote for Nader if I thought he could actually win, so I will vote for Kerry instead. Mr. Kerry has actually come out with stances on issues, most of which I agree with. I was worried he was not going to have any discernible viewpoint on anything for a second.

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    1. Re:The grid? by Raven42rac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jobs are being added, but if you take a look at the jobs lost versus the jobs added, you will see the ones that were added pay a lot less than the ones that were lost.
      My mom can not vote anyway (she's Irish), so she tends to stay out of politics in general.
      The fact is that over the last 4 years, our rights have gone out the window, that is a fact, I have a clue. Until recently, the government could hold you without charges, incommunicado, for however long they felt like. They still have the PATRIOT act at their disposal, they can tap your phone, net connection, and subpoena pretty much anything for no reason, and the subpoenaed party is not even allowed to tell you.
      I am not far left, I am an independent, I just tend to think about things.
      How many of the programs that many low-income families depend on to hold down jobs and contribute to society have been cut to support that tax cut? It feels like the 80s, when Reaganomics had Americans hating the poor. Just because I have a heart and care about people does not make me far left.
      I doubt very seriously that everyone who voted on PATRIOT knew it would be abused in the way it has been.
      I realise Mr. Bush has not appointed a justice, but they tend to side with the Republicans most of the time. They are an obsolete, monolithic institution, I would suggest term limits of less that "until you die". I could mention the Scalia-Cheney duck huntin trip that "wasn't a conflict of interest", but that would be too easy.
      I too got a tax cut, and I am by no means rich, but I would rather ensure the fiscal future of our nation for our descendents than be able to make an extra payment on my debts now. Social security is doomed, we have a war to pay for, the deficit is sky high, were gaining "mcjobs", dollar is weak against the euro, and I get a little bit more money back? Thanks, but no thanks. Taxes are a necessary evil. At least most Democrats are "tax and spend", instead of "cut taxes, and spend pretty much the same, if not more, and think that companies will contribute to the economy instead of heading overseas to duck those taxes and take profits wherever they can".

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  9. And when the data is wrong? Worse than ID theft by geekotourist · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The data combines multiple sources including gov't files. It includes your associates (roommates past and present, family members, travel companions). I assume they use software like casinos use for this (i.e. if your old college roommate recently got caught card counting, you're going to have a harder time playing at casinos too.) but with data the casinos can't get like your CPNI (phone calls). The gov't data probably has your associations: memberships in the ACM, ACLU, or NRA can come from mailing list rentals, and the gov't / IRS knows deductable donations.

    So, what if the data is wrong? I'd say the results would be worse than identity theft or a simple bad credit report.

    With ID theft, bad data gets attached to you and affects your ability to find jobs, get loans, rent housing, etc. But, it only affects you (perhaps also a spouse). You can get your data and try to fix it. Takes 200 hours and never quite finishes, but you have rights and the credit agencies have duties.

    With this system, bad data will affect you and your ability to travel. The government has admitted that it has no responsibility to fix bad data in government files. So, you'll have few to zero chances to fix it. And the best part is bad data about you will creep out to taint anyone you've associated with. If you look bad, then so do your old roommates. And your new business partners. And whoever you call regularly. So now grandma will get a free breast cancer screening whenever she flies (mmmmm. Wand searches).

    From my favorite essay written by a precog on privacy post 9/11( the former Canadian privacy czar's excellent essay), as I commented here in this thread on airlines gave away your privacy (and it definitely applies to those of us in the US, he's warning Canadians not to do what the US was doing already):

    • The more information government compiles about us, the more of it will be wrong. That's simply a fact of life...
    • wrong information and misinterpretations will have potential consequences. If information that is actually about someone else is wrongly applied to us, if wrong facts make it appear that we've done things we haven't, if perfectly innocent behavior is misinterpreted as suspicious because authorities don't know our reasons or our circumstances, we will be at risk of finding ourselves in trouble in a society where everyone is regarded as a suspect...
    • Decisions detrimental to us may be made on the basis of wrong facts, incomplete or out-of-context information or incorrect assumptions, without our ever having the chance to find out about it, let alone to set the record straight...
    • That possibility alone will, over time, make us increasingly think twice about what we do, where we go, with whom we associate, because we will learn to be concerned about how it might look to the ubiquitous watchers of the state.
    • The bottom line is this: If we have to live our lives weighing every action, every communication, every human contact, wondering what agents of the state might find out about it, analyze it, judge it, possibly misconstrue it, and somehow use it to our detriment, we are not truly free. That sort of life is characteristic of totalitarian countries, not a free and open society like Canada.

    "[gives example of Canada wanting to collect data, US style]... This is unprecedented. The Government of Canada has absolutely no business creating a massive database of personal information about all law-abiding Canadians that is collected without our consent from third parties, not to provide us with any service but simply to have it available to use against us if it ever becomes expedient to do so. Compiling dossiers on the private activities of all law-abiding citizens is the sort of t

  10. Dossiers by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A: This service has zero info that you shouldn't have. It's all public records, the scary part of this service is that they seem to have most of the nation's public records about individuals assembled in an easy-to-query form.

    The fact that info is public record does NOT mean that it's OK to assemble it with OTHER information that is ALSO public record and make the result - or even the original public records - available at electronic speed.

    One of the big objections to the creation of the Social Security System was that the SS# would serve as a universal identifier, making it easier to assemble dossiers of individuals from diverse public records. This almost killed the program - which was eventually passed on the promise (among others) that the nubmer would NEVER EVER EVER be used in that way.

    Remember that this was before WWII, which means before computers and even xerography. ("copying" was, at best, thermofax, blueprint, or photography.) AND in the midst of the "Great Depression", with its starving masses of people (including the elderly) who had just gone bankrupt and lost their homes, farms, and businesses in a pre "welfare" system environment.

    Can you IMAGINE how concerned they were to consider blocking the creation of the SS system JUST to prevent the hand-construction and misuse of manual dossiers composed of public information?

    The US classified information rules DO classify the JUXTIPOSITION of certain publicly available unclassified information - whenever this juxtaposition hints at something that IS sensitive. This happens in nuclear physics, radio, and several other fields. Why should individuals be any less protected from combining public information in a way that stips more of their privacy than the individual records standing alone?

    = = = =

    Databases run in their private time by policemen or retired policemen were, back in the '70s, a dodge to get around new laws banning ilicit governmental record keeping. These laws were passed after the government's investigative agencies at all levels (FBI, Military Intelligence, State/County/City police) went 'WAY out of bounds on domestic surveilance and so-called "dirty tricks" against people suspected of participating in the civil rights and anti(vietnam)war movement. (See COINTELPRO for an example.)

    They were SUPPOSED to destroy the ill-gotten info. But instead some of them absconded with it and set up for-profit companies to maintain it and sell access back to the very police departments that weren't supposed to have it. This let the departments continue to use it and CLAIM that they didn't have it.

    So this one is run by a former policeman, eh? Any bets on whether it's a modern continuation of one of those ilicit databases?

    = = = =

    Dylan said you had to pay to keep from going through these things twice. Well we DID pay and we're STILL going through them again! B-(

    B: Since this company charges by the query, too many queries from a device will likely cause that device quickly be deauthorized by whomever's paying the bill.

    Aren't we talking about the Federal Government's Homeland Security boondoggle department? Somehow I doubt that breaking the US budget is an issue.

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  11. I said it before... by linuxhansl · · Score: 4, Insightful
    here And I'll say it again:
    1. These tools/extended rights will be abused.
    2. They won't help to prevent terrorist attacks.
    How many terrorists are US citizens? Even if they previously they student visas, etc, terrorist groups just have to stay out of the US until right before the attack. There will be no records on them, and hence this does nothing to prevent them from pursuing their actions.
    But now there is this huge pool easily accessible information out there, just waiting to be used for other purposes.

    Anyway, IMHO there will never be an attack like 9/11 again, because on 9/11 the terrorists relied on the will and hope of the passengers to stay alive. Now, if a plane is hijacked the passengers will have to assume that they will die, hence it will be impossible to control them (what would you threadten them with?) That's what happened to the 4th plane on 9/11 when people on the plane learned about the other attacks via cellphone.

  12. as scary as this is... by painehope · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it was only a matter of time. All of the "services" that LocatePlus offers are matters of public record, which means that by the law you, I, or any jackass Orwellian fascist w/ a frutrated Big Brother complex ( *ahem* Jon Latorella - that's you bub! ) can access them and do whatever the hell he wants with them.

    If you want an example of how available these records are now, check out Adams County Records. I've used them before to see if charges had been filed on friends, etc. So it's not hard to get, especially in the "digital" age.

    What is scary is the fact that our society ( and our judicial branch in particular - which should be motivated by an evolving sense of ethics and morality, which, well, DOESN'T SEEM TO BE FUCKING EVOLVING to cope with our changing world ) doesn't seem to be able to prevent these abuses. Because a private citizen ( or a government agency, for that matter, but they have a lot of liabilities under the law that private citizens don't, that limit their abuses ) compiling a database from public records ( which aren't always accurate ) and then selling it to government agencies ( which is now probably excused for their mistakes due to the fact they were using "someone else's system" ) is most definitely an abuse. It's the basest whoring of public information that I can possibly think of.

    Which beggars another question : if we were as intelligent and moral as we suppose, why haven't we done the following :

    1) rather than releasing records freely, release them under a public license, similar to the GPL. Since they would have to be copyrighted to be released under a license, why not copyright each citizen's information to that person, and their relatives owning their copyright when they die? Yeah, it sounds sick in a way - you're copyrighted, dude ! - but it would prevent commercial and governmental abuses like this. Your information is copyrighted to yourself, freely available under the Citizen's General Public License or some such shit, and any sentencing, divorce, etc., is an addendum to the copyrighted work - namely YOU. And you have to authorize any use of your records which involves commercial profit.

    2) Made laws disallowing the use of public records for direct commercial gain.

    3) Passed laws that required private and public agencies furnishing public or private information to other agencies to be be directly culpable for all misuse, negative repurcussions, etc., that result from any inaccurate or outdated information that they provide. This one rings home with me particularly strongly tonight, since I just found out that 2 medical bills that I paid over a year ago still show up on my credit as unpaid debts. There's no accountability there, even though I've badgered these bastards before to update their records.

    Yeah, making laws doesn't always solve a problem, but making the right ones will. Stop telling people who they can fuck, how they can get high, stop giving money to religious "charities", stop supporting people that are unwilling to work but still willing to reproduce, legislating the RIAA's paranoid crusade about whether I can copy a fucking DVD or not, and start making some laws that pull that metaphorical boot off of our face. Because I only see it getting worse. And this is the really goddamn scary part kids :

    I see it getting a whole worse before it gets any better.

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