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Cassini-Huygens Reaches Orbit Around Saturn

Mick Ohrberg writes "The probe Cassini-Huygens is now officially in orbit around Saturn. Last nights' retro-burn was completed according to plan, down to the second, which in and of itself is an amazing feat, considering all data received is 1h24m old, as well as 900 million miles away. I must say, it was fairly exciting to watch the webcast, and see the signal fade behind the A-ring, and all but disappear behind the B-ring - all in (somewhat delayed) real-time. The SOI (Saturn Orbit Insertion) also saw Cassini-Huygens whisk by Saturn at around 68,000 mph at an altitude of about 12,000 miles from the cloud tops - the closest to the gas giant the probe will ever be during its planned 4-year mission, for instance the much awaited Huygens mission to Titan."

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  1. Pictures. by Mz6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not sure when the article was written but there are already raw and press images released as well as some others. The quality isn't as good as some may think and it really doens't show much detail into the rings at all.

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    1. Re:Pictures. by rfinnvik · · Score: 5, Funny

      http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/instruments- cassini-iss.cfm

      "Cassini's higher-resolution camera is able to see a penny, 1.5 cm (0.5 in) across, from a distance of nearly 4 km (2.5 mi)."

      Sounds like the cameras has some potential, at least :)

      Oh, and NASA, as always, rock at converting metric to imperial... :P

      1.5 cm = 0.59 in
      4 km = 2.48 miles

    2. Re:Pictures. by clarkcox3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not only did they convert incorrectly, they measured incorrectly to begin with. A penny is 19.05mm in diameter, not 15mm.

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    3. Re:Pictures. by weyoun6 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Its the camera's electrical interference - they havent removed the bars and all the specks from cosmic rays.

  2. wiki by Nspace13 · · Score: 5, Informative

    wikipedia has a great bit of information on the history of this project including a section called "Plutonium power source and controversy".

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    1. Re:wiki by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Plutonium power source and controversy".

      Yeah, it's horrible how many Saturnians it might kill while in duty. :-P

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  3. typo title by bluethundr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The NAME, I say I say the NAME, son is Christiaan Huygens. Associate of the Protestant Defender and natural philosopher.

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  4. nice image showing gravitonal waves in the rings by kyknos.org · · Score: 4, Informative

    nice image showing gravitonal waves in the ringshttp://spaceflightnow.com/cassini/images/0407 01rings1.jpg

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  5. nice example of USA-EU-world cooperation:) by kyknos.org · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "It feels awfully good to be in orbit around the lord of the rings," said Charles Elachi, director of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "It's going to be a huge leap in our understanding of the Saturnian system.""This has just been an incredible ride," he said. "This wasn't NASA going into orbit around Saturn, it's the Earth going into orbit around Saturn because 17 countries made this happen. This is the way exploration should be done: by the Earth."

    if only we could do more things like this

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  6. Try and imagine... by cOdEgUru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Try and imagine this small piece of machine, an artificial eye, open to the wonders of our solar system, falling through the infinite depths of space, so that we can forget for a moment, all the troubles and tribulations around us, the cold steel and the raging fire and look beyond the physical confines of what makes us human and gaze in awe at this small contraption carrying a message of hope, of peace, of our thirst for knowledge in a never ending journey towards everything that is unknown.

    1. Re:Try and imagine... by bobcave · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yikes - how many bonghits before *that* post??

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    2. Re:Try and imagine... by Ignignot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Try and imagine, a sentence, with lots of commas, some in places they shouldn't be, going on and on, far past the boundaries of normal sentences, standing tall like a great dark god of sentences, like a toilet full melodramatic examples, and then when you think it might end and the commas stop and you yearn for a period, more come like a never ending journey towards a final ending.

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  7. Re:They must have been nervous by CheshireCatCO · · Score: 4, Informative

    There wasn't much danger of a serious collision. They passed through a gap in the rings and the probe was checking the region out several weeks ago for possible threats. Besides, Cassini will be using the high-gain antenna dish as a shield when passing through the rings, so the spacecraft itself isn't in a lot of danger.

  8. Christiaan Huygens by rastakid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just like Huygens I'm Dutch, and thus I was taught a lot about him in school during the physics hours.
    The biggest thing Huygens brought the physica is the 'Huygens source'. A simplified explanation: A Huygens source starts sending out sound (air vibration) because the source itself got vibrated by another source. So, a Huygens source doesn't 'create' sound, but simply relays it.

    Of course this is really simplified and in reality it's fairly more complex.

  9. Re:They must have been nervous by pragma_x · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was at the small (public) meeting held at Goddard Space Flight Center just last night, regarding Cassini's SOI.

    Basically they did a few basic things to mitigate risk when attempting this.

    - Massive retro burn to decrease velocity: Saturn's gravity was speeding the probe up.
    - Aimed at the space between rings so it go through *mostly* empty space... twice, since it had to come back through the rings on its way back out.
    - Flipped the craft around 180-degress so the high-gain antenna dish would act as a shield for the rest of the probe. (pretty clever if you ask me).

    I'm just happy to see that it worked. Although I wonder what condition the dish is in now.

  10. Re:delays by Bob+4knee · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...some sort of technology that allowed some independent operation on the part of the probe might be a valuable investment for the next go-round.

    It's in there this time. See:

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/07/01/cassini.o rbit/index.html

    NASA also designed Cassini to be independent because the time lag of one hour and 24 minutes -- the time for light to travel 930 million miles from Saturn to Earth -- means controllers on Earth cannot immediately react to unexpected problems.

    Instead, Cassini operates on its own.

    "The spacecraft has been programmed to continue even in the event of an emergency," said Mitchell in a statement. "We don't want Cassini to call home if a problem arises, we want it to keep going."

  11. Are we space faring? by carn1fex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know its really easy to take for granted the fact that in the last 50 years we have gone from a confined world to launching interplanetary probes billions of miles away. I think we are all a little desensitized from watching too much star trek/star wars and setting our expectations way too high. It really struck me this weekend when i was sitting on the beach with my girlfriend, relaxing and said "the cassini probe is going into orbit around saturn this week." She just smiled, because shes not that geeky, but really, never have humans ever been able to say something like that in matter-of-fact conversation. Now its the norm. Hooray for us:)

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  12. Re:Pictures of the actual ring pass through? by confused+one · · Score: 5, Informative
    they did; but, the scientists mentioned something about how fast they were traveling: (I'll quote some from the spaceflightnow article)

    "The photo sequence began around 12:30 a.m., 18 minutes or so after Cassini finished a 96-minute rocket firing to brake into orbit around Saturn. Streaking just above the rings at speeds greater than 50,000 mph, Cassini's narrow-angle camera took a series of snapshots, opening its shutter for just five milliseconds per picture to avoid blurring. Each picture was separated from those on either side by about 600 miles because of Cassini's extreme velocity."

    "It takes us about a minute to take a picture and so in the time we shutter the exposure, read out the camera and get ready to take a picture again, we have crossed a thousand kilometers."

    They never had a chance to get a close up of the debris in the rings. In fact, it would take a significant effort, timing it just right, to do so; and, they would risking damage by exposing the camera lens to any dust in the path. If you remember, they were turning Cassini so the big dish pointed in the direction of travel to act as a shield against any small objects in their path, as they crossed the rings.

  13. Re:Amazing. by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Informative

    I find myself curious what compression algorithms they are using... is it lossless?

    I was reading an interesting page on how the cameras process the data and on some of the technical aspects regarding the images - the FAQ on the raw images available for downloading.

    Apparently, there are both lossless and lossy compression schemes, and it sounds like the compression is done within the cameras themselves - it's not like, say, the Mars Rovers which have a fairly big processor in the middle doing all the work. I don't think it mentions the specific compression algorithms themselves; I wouldn't be surprised if the lossy one is a form of JPEG. I know that was used on Mars Pathfinder, also launched in 1997...

    The raw images I have seen are pretty messy, and for trulyspectacular views of Saturn, its rings and its moons it's probably best to wait for them to be processed properly. The FAQ details some of the ways in which they're processed on the ground, too - anyone want a go themselves? :-)

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  14. Good for us by scoser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a great day for science and I'm glad that we didn't give into the protesters back in 1997 (to prevent the mission) and 1999 (to stop Cassini from flying past Earth on its way back to Saturn after a gravity slingshot around Venus).

  15. Re:Hey..? by SB9876 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the risk of the Pu RTGs breaking open if Cassini had hit the Earth on those slingshot maneuvers was non-zero, the risk to human health was non-existant. The stupid - 'toxic enough to kill every human on Earth' line was complete BS.

    For one, it's know that at least 3 RTGs have burned up on reentry, one US and two USSR. We didn't all die.

    Second, while Plutonium is toxic, it's not that bad - caffeine has a lower fatal dose than Plutonium.

  16. Wrong! by Shoeler · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not several billion - it's only 900 million miles away, plus or minus 2 AUs or so. ;)

    Cassini TRAVELED several billion miles to get there - its path looks like an archimedes spiral because of the multiple slingshot maneuvers it used to gain speed. This is also why it took so long to get there.

  17. Re:Hey..? by RetiredMidn · · Score: 4, Informative
    Sigh.

    They did not use the sun's gravitational pull; they used the gravity fields of Venus (twice), Earth, and Jupiter to overcome the sun's gravitational pull.

    The "risk" of a Columbia/Challenger type accident - breaking apart from a launch vehicle failure or atmospheric stresses - had nothing to do with the slingshot trajectory, and the RTG was packaged against that contingency. The risk of the slingshot maneuver around earth leading to an accident was infinitesimal.

    As the linked article discusses at greater length, the wisdom of the plan was disputed by some, but calling it "very dangerous" is getting close to tin foil hat territory.

  18. Re:Great news! by gargleblast · · Score: 5, Funny
    I submitted a story about this at 7 am, but it got rejected.. go figure.

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  19. Re:Is "Saturnian" the proper adjective? by Analise · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yep, it is, according to dictionary.com:

    Saturnian ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-tûrn-n, s-)
    adj.
    Of or relating to the planet Saturn or to its supposed astrological influence.
    Archaic. Of or relating to the god Saturn or his reign.

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  20. Re:I'm not obsessed by size or anything by amightywind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Next to the earth, Titan may be the most chemically complex body in the solar system. It remains to be seen if it geologically complex. I have a feeling the real show will start tomorrow with the first Titan flyby. Cassini should be able to see/detect liquid hydrocarbons if they are there with IR imaging, IR spectrascopy and radar. A major world is about to be revealed with some of the best instruments ever flown.

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  21. last of the big planetary probes? by peter303 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is Cassini the last of the billion-dollar deep-space probes? I don't see much else funded. Theres and on-again, off-again flyby to Pluto next decade. The Mercury probe Messenger was axed in the current White House budget. The next four launch-cycles to Mars are being worked on. But these are relatively inexpensive, small things in the couple hundred million range. Maybe a few more lunar and comet missions in the works too.
    The previous NASA administrator Goldin promoted the faster-cheaper-smaller (and less reliable) probe model. I guess the initial Hubble troubles and the decade-long Galileo & Cassini projects spooked him out. At least Cassini will last for 4 to 10 years.