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Apple and the Open Source Community
Dozix007 writes "Sitepoint reports an interesting article on the increasing interconnection between Apple's recently released Tiger, and the open source community. Tiger includes improved releases of Apple's directory services (LDAP), secure authentication (Kerberos), mail server (Postfix), web server (Apache) and many more features, nearly all based on existing open source software. Most significant may be the release of Rendezvous for Java, Linux/Unix and Windows. This is a zero-configuration tool for networking that includes network protocols, identification and configuration of devices and services such as printers and local/remote servers, and was based on open source technology."
Heh--forgot that when you post, your moderation is undone, huh.
What is one thing Sun has given to the OS community?
Java is nearly totally closed, and Sun has said repeatly it is not considering opening it (for fear of "forking"). Solaris is closed. Their "Java Desktop" is as closed as they can make it (have you seen the license?) and is mostly just rebranded Gnome. (It is also a POS if you check out the reviews).
From my viewpoint, Sun is a *leech* off the OS community. I can't for the life of me think of anything positive they have contributed. Every other major UNIX vendor (SGI, IBM, HP) have contributed major kernel additions aimed at improving performance and interoperability. They also frequently contribute financially (IBM). What has Sun done?
You sound like you are gay. How big is your Barbara Streisand collection?
Your typo "efforst" is similar to the sound that the Mac folk at the university make when they blow some business guy in the corner so that they can afford some more Photoshop plugins. Is that what you do as well? It's a sad sight.
Rendezvous, code existing in Safari, QuickTime streaming server just to name a few
Um, Rendezvous actually came from OSS zeroconf and Safari took much from Konqueror. There's a big difference between giving to the open source community and leaching from the open source community.
in other words he's gay
[X] loves the smooth curves of plastic
[X] always ends up "accidently" in a gay bar to "use the payphone"
[X] has worked as a "graphic designer" for at least two years
Interesting, must be true...
How can you even possibly claim they're superior? Superior to what? Say, Alienware? I dont think so. Other than the processor, which I admit is vastly superior in design to the x86 line, yet AMD's new 64 bit line products beats it like a little bitch. They use the same stuff off the bulk manufacterers so any claims of superiority is nonsense unless Jobs has brainwashed you in believing so.
I dont care how they look, that's the last issue for me.
Remind me what their marketshare is worldwide? I bet it's less than 1%. Apple's hardware business is only there to appease those followers of Church of Apple.
I claim Gentoo is a superior Operating system to apple. Again for me looks doesn't matter. Linux Kernel is vastly superior and modern to what apple uses. Not to mention the fact that Apple has had a bad history of security fixes, last time there was a vulnerability, apple pushed some stuff that didn't even fix the problem. Apple is secure just by the virtue of the fact that nobody uses it.
BTW, fuck you all apple fan boys for modding me down. You know I speak of the truth and you realize that but are ashamed on spending buttload of money for a crappy piece of machinery.
Keep fighting the good fight RnR. Some day the "Apple halo" will be taken away and en McFanbois will be forced to see it for what it is - just another computer/peripheral company: using other's wares (IBM, Toshiba, ...) just like Dell *gasp!*, but with a Brontosaurus-sized marketing department.. Don't let the logotype glow blind you ;)
No matter what code Apple releases with OS X 10.4, there will forever be the stain of the Konfabulator. What's worse to developers: leaving code proprietary or not giving credit where credit is due?
All Apple has to say is "We were inspired by such and such" or cut a check to the Konfabulator guys. Instead, we have an OS on the cusp of massive developer influx (a lot of UNIX guys, like myself, have looked at Mac OS X and like what we see) struck down by a dumb software PR move. It would be a very simple thing to rectify, but watch Apple (unfortunately) not do it.
REDUNDANT! Of course, those facts are well known. Excellent, this shows that the general public knows that Mac users are gay.
To the AC that posted this: copyright infringiment hurts baby Jesus. Please don't do it again. At least quote your source.
Sincerely,
The AC that posted the list prior
OS upgrades for $130 every year. There goes your "OS X is cheap" argument. Three years, and you've paid Apple $390. Highly profitable I say. :0)
There you go apple zealots again. Afraid to hear the truth? You people are truly fascists.
Activists United
Quicktime streaming server interoperates so well with WMP, Real Player, Video Lan, and the rest. But hey, they play some open source stuff, so let's applaud them for making it easier to shove their media player down people's throats.
Their music store works with one media player and one portable player. Guess which ones? Go ahead, guess?
We were talking about what THEY release, not what they just integrate to help sell more overpriced hardware. Did they invent Samba and release it? XML? PDF? Anything you mentioned?
Apple embraces open source where it extends the use of their proprietary media player (which plays some open source codecs, BIG WHOOP!) saves them work, or weakens MS. Nobody should say thanks, they should say, "DUH!" It's a smart move, but nothing to be applauded by anyone other than the fan boys.
---Did AMD, Intel or Linus Torvalds give you a PC to develop on? If they didn't give you one, did they loan you one to use? Yeah, I thought not.
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Actually, Ive got developer boards from Intel, Motorolla, AMD, and a handful of other companies. If you provide a service or want for people to buy your product (as in samples for embedded or otherwise), they will invest in you IF YOU SHOW THAT YOU DO AS YOU SAY.
---Did you see this? Checking eBay superficially, I found this with a price of US$105: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&cat
And 4 days out at that. Youre an idiot to post that and expect to "buy it now".
---Now add $130 for a new legal copy of Panther, and you have the Mac you claim you need for $235. And it also has all the USB ports you seem to need.
ASSume that you get that ebay machine for current price HAHAH. Oh, and who's going to buy a legit copy of panther when the sole reason he's buying that is to increase share of Apple software?
---And if you didn't actually already have a physical Mac, why would you be in need of VirtualPC? VirtualPC simulates an Intel clone with Windows on a Mac. Sheesh.
We know what he's talking about, assface.
It does no such thing. It "points out" that they would have even less chance to survive if they pissed off the 10 people left in the world who like their products.
The Farewell Tour II
They give back enough to look good but nothing of much value. KHTML has nearly no market penetration on Linux, perhaps 5%-10% at max. Darwin is used by nobody, etc etc.
Personally. That means TO YOU it's not important. To someone that's developing consumer-level applications it should be second on the list behind the actual programming. UI design is *VERY* important to MODERN DESKTOP COMPUTING. It might not be a necessity for the borderline Luddite console freaks that occupy Slashdot but for anyone who uses a computer as something more than internet penis size, like doing actual work, shiny blue beats cryptic commands any day of the week.
'Standards' in computing only impress those who are impressed by things like 'standards'.