Setting Up The Greenpeace Ship w/WiFi

An anonymous reader writes "If you're on any wifi related mailing lists, you've probably heard of Nigel Ballard of joejava.com, Minister of Propaganda for the Personal Telco Project in Portland Oregon. The Greenpeace vessel Arctic Sunrise came into Portland and wanted some an alternative to Inmarsat for their Internet access. Nigel set Greenpeace up with equipment and got VeriLAN to provide access."

Comments

Greenpeace == Criminals

[Anonymous Coward]

if I was a boat captain, and they boarded my boat...I'd shoot their asses

Re:Greenpeace == Criminals

[Fishead]

How about the news articles in British Columbia about loggers finding spikes imbedded in trees where they were logging? When the loggers came by with metal detectors to find the spikes, the greenpeace terrorists switched to boring holes at a downward angle into the trunk of the tree, and dropping in a ceramic rod before glueing a piece of bark over the hole. The purpose of which is that when the logger's chainsaw comes in contact with the rod, it is thrown with extreme force in his general direction.

My father was a logger (Before his accident) and he always said that if he found someone in the top of a tree, he would cut that one down first.

Oh, and the forests aren't disappearing. If you get the chance to re-visit a site that has been re-planted 20 years ago, you will be amazed by the growth and abundance of life. If you ever get the chance to fly through the interior of British Columbia, you will also be amazed by the huge area covered by forest, and realize that as long as a respectable level of harvest is maintained, there will never be a shortage of forest.

Recycled paper is a crock. It takes more energy, and does more damage to the environment recycling a piece of paper into a lower grade product, then it takes to grow a tree, and make it into a new piece of paper.

Hmm!

[PeterPumpkin]

Minister of Propaganda? Thats an interesting title.

The Greenpeace ship the Arctic Sunrise will be visiting Portland, Oregon on the 4th and 5th of July as part of our national campaign for an immediate moratorium on commercial logging and road construction on America's public lands.

Seems like setting up internet service just for two days seems silly. And given the coverage map they have a small window of mobility if they want it.

Not news, is it?

[grcumb]

I mean, wi-fi on a boat is no big thing if the boat isn't moving. Effectively, it's just wi-fi on a house with ocean view, isn't it?

So please, somebody: Post a link to affordable wireless technologies that will actually help people on the fringes of the Internet. I'm writing from a South Pacific island where we have the dubious privilege of paying USD 200/month for dial-up access. Affordable wireless over distance is something we dream about so fervently we often have to clean the sheets in the morning.

Re:Ecoterrorism

[ConsumedByTV]

Hi.

I work for Greenpeace.

I was wondering if you care to support your outlandish claims that we support ecoterrorism?

Greenpeace has a history of Non-Violent Direct Actions for more than 30 years.

We do not and will not tolerate ecoterrorism.

Granted I am not speaking for Greenpeace, I am speaking as a member of it who just so happens to be an active reader of Slashdot.

You might not agree with protesting, but it's hardly any type of terrorism.

Now onto what you asked, why did this make the front page? It's quite obvious that this made the front page because of the people involved and the challenges that those people overcame.

Greenpeace is a very upright environmental organization.

We have many worthwhile causes.

I don't know of many other organizations that stand up for the thousands killed in Bophal, or the illegal logging in the Amazon, but Greenpeace does.

Re:Ecoterrorism

[Doppler00]

We have many worthwhile causes.

Which includes cripplying large portions of the U.S. economy?

moratorium on commercial logging and road construction

I've lived in logging communities. I know first hand what the environmental movement has done to cripple a legitimate part of our economy. Guess what? After logging companies cut down trees they plant new ones. Trees grow back (amazing!). They do not create wastelands of stumps countrary to popular belief.

We are working internationally to stop nuclear power

Great, and raise the price of electricity because of ignorance of a proven technology.

Am I the only one...

[kir]

...thinking this only gets accepted to slashdot because it contains the word Greenpeace? Wifi was set up on a DOCKED SHIP... in Portland... BIG DEAL!

I'm guessing - just guessing mind you - that if this guy had wifi'd the Exxon Mediterranean, we wouldn't be seeing it on slashdot.

Re:Ecoterrorism

[Andrew-Greenpeace]

I was on board the Greenpeace ship in question at the time. They rammed us, not the other way around (actually more of a sideswipe). Luckily, we had a video camera rolling. The videotape clearly showed the much larger whaling factory ship at fault. Lloyds (the periodical of note on this subject) listed them as at fault. Fact is that some people throw the word "terrorist" around like they would "Nazi". If you want you can read my account of the incident, written and posted from the ship at the time. You might also be amused to read about our response.

Re:Interesting ideology

[shepd]

>If you aren't familiar with the concept of civil-disobedience, you can find lots of good stuff through google - like this essay.

Oh, I'm thoroughly familiar with the concept. Heck, I read Thoreau's Waladen. We had entire English classes covering this topic (they were especially exciting, since the teacher was a strong NDP booster [Left wing government in Canada] and I am generally neo-Conservative).

We came to observe that civil disobedience requires that if you are punished for your transgressions, you take it with dignity, and a complete willingness to face any consequences of your actions, no matter how severe, and, most importantly, that you absolutely don't complain. Thoreau appeared quite salient on these points.

Ghandi knew this. That's why he won.

Now, Greenpeace doesn't do this. They break the rules. They play dead when police officers arrest them. They shout insults and threats while being arrested. They need to read the rest of Walden. Then they might have success. A plan half implemented is no plan at all.