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KDE 3.3 Beta "Klassroom" Released
twener writes "The KDE team has announced the Beta 1 development version of the upcoming KDE 3.3 release. This release is named 'Klassroom' following the 'Kindergarten' Alpha; the goal is to make this child visit the "aKademy" KDE World Summit in August. Most planned features are there, next week starts the feature freeze. Source and provided binary packages are listed on the KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Info Page next to the KDE 3.3 Requirements List."
It's one thing to bloat KDE with questionably useful features, it's quite another to bloat KDE with features of this sort. I just hope the default is not HTML.
"Sounds a little familiar, and we all know what happened with the other one.."
yea, it became the most popular browser in the world.
(Check the evolution of Kontact, for example, or Konqueror, which is not so big if you would only load the KHTML part)
Just like you can pipe grep with awk with sed... but graphically somehow :P
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
kde is a "pretty" and well functional desktop, while Gnome is a beast for developers to use, for end user usability (ok/cancel buttons on the wrong side?), and over all eyesore. i don't understand why gnome has won in the korporate world (sun/eclipse, etc) perhaps it is due to less restrictive licenscing (lgpl .vs. gpl)? i dunno. personally, i wish at least the SWT would be kde based.
So, KDE is built with small parts and tools, they're just very nicely intergrated.
However, I'm supprised that no really bad security holes in konqueror have been discovered yet. Browser and file manager intergrated is very nice, but also very scary...
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What happened? Which other one do you mean?
If there's one great KDE application, it's konqueror. I think it's very well done. I really like the way they integrate things. For instance, you can drag and drop something from the web into a directory in your disk. It will be shown as a thumbnail. Pass the cursor over it and a window with details will pop up. Click on it and the system will run the application that handles that type of file. I think konqueror has the smoothest and most seamless user interface I've ever seen.
If you look closely, you'll see that KDE isn't different from the traditional Unix way of doing things. It *is* built up of smaller tools, only it has a graphic user interface instead of the traditional "|" character to represent the pipe.
I couldn't agree more. It sounds as though they're marketing this towards children! I'm sorry, but I just don't want my desktop to be fulled with very bad puns -- get enough of those right here at /.
That and various other reasons keep me with Gnome. At least it's a bit harder to make a Good pun with g's. Or is it? Maybe it's time for fluxbox...
"An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would never make a good program."
Wow, they're quick. Isn't this like half the time between KDE 3.1 and KDE 3.2?
That said, *drool*. My main interests in KDE 3.3 is full groupware support in Kontact, a working Kopete, and hopefully some stability cleanups. I look forward to every KDE release, as each one blows me away with how well done it is from an overall design perspective.
--GrouchoMarx
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The default system menu that ships with Fedora Core 2 is a more ideal way to set up a menu, where the name of each program explains WHAT IT DOES, rather than trying to shoehorn some cute name into something that starts with K (or G for you Gnome fans). For example:
Instead of saying GAIM it says "Internet Messenger"
Instead of Mozilla, it says "Web Browser"
So, is there any chance we could discuss KDE in this thread? As opposed to just an endless stream of unfunny "K" jokes, GNOME vs KDE flamewars, and Windows vs Linux flamewars?
Ohh sorry, I forgot for a sec... this is slashdot.
Is there any knews of this being faster? I've been annoyed that kde is slower than windows. Yeah, it looks nice, but most of those visual enhancements are from nice 2D graphics. I like kde because it has more basic programs than light WM's like fluxbox, but it's still kinda slow. They seem to be taking the microsoft route. Add features before making it faster and more stable. It's ironic where this is headed.
Classroom = "Klassenzimmer" or "Klassenraum", not "Klassroom"
Academy = "Akademie" not "Akademy"
Highschool = "Hochschule", "Realschule", or "Gymnasium"
ad nauseum. Sure, some apps like Konsole get it right. And a bunch of apps like Konstruct, Kommander, aKregator, and Kasablanca get it wrong.
Keeping this in mind, Konsole is probably the exception, not the rule.
So what you are suggesting is that instead of one big thing, what we should do is have lots of little tools. And then we can have them work seemlessly with each other.
Hey good idea - what we'll do is split everything up into things called kparts. So there is an html kpart called khtml, and a file browsing kpart, and a kword kpart, and a pdf viewer kpart and so on.
Then to just glue it together we can have an app which just loads the kparts, and call that, say konqueror.
Oh wait, that's what happens. What was your point again?
Contrary to your claim, I find Gnome much better with regards to usability.
KDE is 'better', technologically, but each time I've tried to switch I've been put off by the clutter and garish icons and themes. Some Gnome's buttons might be switched around (not that I've ever noticed), but as long as it's consistent, it doesn't really matter.
I reckon Gnome has won the corporate heart through it's simplicity. If you compare a screenshot of KDE against one of Gnome, it's obvious that Gnome is less in-your-face than KDE. Gnome sort of blends into the background. Sort of like the difference between a Ferrari and an Aston Matrin.
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The most interesting thing about this article is that, as you stated, the vast majority of posts is in reference to KDE naming. Noticeably absent are posts deriding KDE for technical problems, design issues and or performance issues.
It would suggest, anecdotally anyway, that users have no major issues with KDE which is something that cannot be said about almost any other Linux desktop. Observe other Slashdot articles about Gnome, xFCE or others and you will see lots of comments complaining about bugs, design issues, performance, lack of features and more. There are very few posts of this nature with this article and that alone speaks volumes for KDE.
Could it be that despite the flame wars, KDE is indeed the best/preferred desktop for Linux?
YOu may be surprised, I run KDE over MAndrake Linux 10.0 on a 450MHz PC with 320M memory, and an old 32M NVidia TNT video card. I have menu transparency, shadowing, and icon zooming all turned on and it runs just fine. I even manage to run Quake 2 and 3 using OpenGL under KDE with this box, although I usually switch to IceWM when gaming for better performance.
I'm also using it on a 550MHz crappy Packard Bell box with Intel on board graphics (hey it was a freeby) using FreeBSD. Again even with the Intel graphics, it runs transparent menus, icon zooming and shadows with no trouble. About the only thing I had to turn off was full window moving (works better with outline window moving), and it doesn't do OpenGL, but it performs well enough in 2D.
Yeah I know, all this stuff is old, time I upgraded etc. etc.
I suspect that, if they have enough memory (>128M)and decent video cards(anything that will run full colour accelerated sould, those old Dells could run KDE better than you think. Otherwise, use IceWM or Windowmaker.
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I can't wait for KitchenSync personally. I'm surprised that it isn't getting integrated with Kontact, and it's a little disappointing that Qtopia is like the only supported sync device, but at least its existence in KDE should provide some motivation for people owning other devices to hack stuff up. (Personally I'm hoping for Symbian bluetooth syncing support, ideally which works by pressing a button on Kontact. Sweeeeeeet.)
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