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KDE 3.3 Beta "Klassroom" Released
twener writes "The KDE team has announced the Beta 1 development version of the upcoming KDE 3.3 release. This release is named 'Klassroom' following the 'Kindergarten' Alpha; the goal is to make this child visit the "aKademy" KDE World Summit in August. Most planned features are there, next week starts the feature freeze. Source and provided binary packages are listed on the KDE 3.3 Beta 1 Info Page next to the KDE 3.3 Requirements List."
They'd be perfect as thin clients for a K12LTSP server. For that you need one decent machine to use as a server. It's a LOT easier than administering 20 stand-alone boxes.
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they're not.
Major Kontact improvements all-around
Amarok, a new audio player that will hopefulyl replace the awful Noatun/Kaboodle
KolourPaint - which was needed
My wish: integrate Konversation, and get rid of Keramik :)
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Well, you don't have to use KDE as the window manager. There others like Fluxbox, WindowMaker and IceWM that could suit your needs and aren't full of bloat.
it just depends where you live.. in many languages things like ceramics, class, academy and other words are written with a 'k'.
besides, it's a handy way to differentiate..
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
It was, however, the wish with most votes on bugs.kde.org. So I guess implementing this wish was a case of dev listening to users.
I believe it finally got implemented because of the work on Kafka (Quanta WYSIWYG component) made it not-so-hard.
In any case, it will be OFF by default, obviously.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Here is the google cache for the features
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
German.
ceramic = keramisch
class = Klasse
academy = Akademie
LOAD "SIG",8,1
Konqueror is not a web browser and file viewer. It's a framework for applications to embed themselves into. It just so happens the file viewer and KHTML are the most commonly used applications in it, but it doesn't have to stop there.
KDE is really the only GUI system I'm familiar with that does try to follow the UNIX philosophy. It's a shame that the underlying system of KDE isn't better understood because the misinformation about it gives KDE a bad name.
Features != bloat. :)
Watching the CVS logs, you can see many optimization so my guess is 3.3 will be faster than 3.2, which was faster than 3.1, which was......
The default system menu that ships with Fedora Core 2 is a more ideal way to set up a menu, where the name of each program explains WHAT IT DOES, rather than trying to shoehorn some cute name into something that starts with K (or G for you Gnome fans). For example:
Instead of saying GAIM it says "Internet Messenger"
That's exactly what KDE's menu does. My multimedia menu is:
CD & DVD Burning (K3b)
Media Player (Kaboodle)
Music Player (JuK)
Sound Mixer (KMix)
I dont know why this rant still gets modded insightful...
First off, have you checked the KDE menu recently? Applications are groupped ("Editors", "Internet" etc) and then also have verbose names ("Web-Browser (Konqueror)", "Mail-Program (KMaiL)" etc...). So that issue is totally moot.
Otherwise, to me the "k" indicates it's a program written for KDE using KDE API's. As such, it wont use GTK, Gnome etc. and will integrate well into my desktop. As opposite to "gaim" or "gdesklets" etc. which are written for Gnome.
So to me the k/g/x/other naming conventions are very helpful in determening whether I want the program or not. And for less experienced users, they got the verbose names to go by and dont have to worry about it.
Cheers,
André
Then use Konqueror. That's what it is.
If you do a 'ps |grep konq', you can see that it is actually totally different processes and programs running when you're using it as a file manager and as a browser. KDE uses the Unix philosophy of "small applications that can be chained". Konqueror is like the tty - it provides a framework for output. That's why you can run KOffice apps directly inside Konqueror or view images, or edit using kvim, etc.
FTP support ina file manager isn't a bad idea though, as long as you use your file manager for managing files
Konqueror doesn't have FTP support - KDE does. Again, "small applications that are chained". kio slaves such as kio_file, kio_ftp, and others that access digital cameras, printers, audio cds (presenting virtual wav, ogg and mp3 directories named from freedb), and many others allow every application to treat any protocol as a local disk. You can fire up ANY app and open a file on a remote system, hit save and it saves out to that system. There is no need for an 'ftp' program, because every KDE app supports ftp (and sftp and digital cameras and...) natively.
Small applications, easy chaining.
Run KDE, and then, from the commandline, run 'dcop'. You can even bash script KDE apps. Or use perl... or python... or anything else you want.
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Evan
"$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/i-kubed/kde33/ kde33_preview.html
Then you will be disappointed to find out that you can use the pipe operator at a UNIX terminal to make various little programs work together... because that is all konqueror does. Just as grep, ls, ps, etc are seprate programs that can be tied together via pipe, KDE's file manager, ftp client, web browser, word processors, etc... can all be tied together via konqueror.
Konqueror is a graphical pipe!
Agreed... KDE3.2 is a lot snappier than 3.1. ARTs, for example, skips significantly less. (Though it's still buggy that I wish they'd just replace it already! Yeah, I know this is nontrivial, but it's really crappy)
I've been annoyed that kde is slower than windows.
hmm, that might have been the kase awhile back - but it sure doesn't seem to be the kase with my kurrent system.
I installed SuSE 9.1, and started using KDE as my primary desktop, being a former long time redhat/gnome user, also having used blackbox, icewm, xfce and others.
I find that kde 3.2.3 on suse 9.1 is very snappy, featureful and has lots of kool eye kandy. I could almost use konqueror for all my web browsing, but every once in awhile there will be some silly site that doesn't work correctly, so I'll resort to firefox or mozilla...
Where to begin...
Unlike Microsoft, you have the option of which parts to install. You also have the option to compile each component for yourself, using optimizations and "--disable-feature" as you see fit.
KDE's patch releases (i.e., 3.2.1, 3.2.2, 3.2.3) are almost exclusively focused on increasing stability and swatting bugs. There has been major efforts by the KDE team towards speed and stability with every release.
Check out http://valgrind.kde.org/ for a good GPLed debugger & profiler. Also look at KCachegrind while you're at it.
If the bloat of binary packages bothers you, then either Konstruct it yourself or buy a faster machine. Don't blame KDE, blame the distro you're using for choosing everything-but-the-kitchen-sink , compiled for the lowest common denominator, in their packages.
-chill
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
Uh, KDE does that too. Descriptive name first, with name in parantheses.
As in:
Web Browser (Konqueror)
News Reader (Knode)
Mail Client (Kmail)
Download Manager (KGet)
etc.
Here's a hint: use the view menu, and turn off the scroll bar, tab bar, and menu bar, then go full screen. ;)