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SpaceshipOne's Control Problem Fixed

Baldrson writes "Wired News reports that Rutan's team says they have gotten to the bottom of the June 21 flight anomalies that affected the first SpaceShipOne sub-orbital flight: 1) A control surface actuator had run against a stop limiting its movement, and 2) Wind shear caused the 90-degree roll shortly after rocket ignition. Rutan also said with the problems now identified, the next time SpaceShipOne flies, it will be to win the prize."

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  1. Re:Wind Shear by zackeller · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you're designing a space ship thats primary goal is to get it only to the edges of space, wind shear is one of your top priorities.

  2. I don't know what their problem is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    MY spaceship wasn't affected by wind shear.

    1. Re:I don't know what their problem is. by Saven+Marek · · Score: 4, Funny

      MY spaceship wasn't affected by wind shear.

      Sure, take the easy way out winning the xprize by launching 100km up from the moon

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  3. And without co-op students, no less! by westendgirl · · Score: 4, Funny

    According to Scaled's Careers page, "We are sorry but Scaled is unable to hire Summer interns or Co-op students." I didn't think any high tech companies could cope without co-ops and interns!

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    1. Re:And without co-op students, no less! by bsartist · · Score: 4, Funny

      But... but... but... who makes the coffee? You can't tell me they're doing this without coffee. Three flights in two weeks I can believe - but engineers without coffee is just crazy talk.

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    2. Re:And without co-op students, no less! by cynic10508 · · Score: 5, Funny

      According to Scaled's Careers page, "We are sorry but Scaled is unable to hire Summer interns or Co-op students." I didn't think any high tech companies could cope without co-ops and interns!

      Huh? They have an intern program. Go to the Jobs section, then look under "Ballast".

    3. Re:And without co-op students, no less! by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 4, Funny

      High techs *love* co-ops and interns. It is like paying people with stock options, except you don't have to worry about the share dilution.

  4. Re:Wind Shear by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, not first, but it gets list somewhere I'm shure. At least for any craft that has to deal with atmosphere.

    Me first thing I worry about is the Huge laser cannons and force shields. That and a seat for cute blue space chick.
    Maybe this is why NASA hasn't called back.

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  5. Simple Process by nasor · · Score: 4, Funny

    "1) A control surface actuator had run against a stop limiting its movement, and 2) Wind shear caused the 90-degree roll shortly after rocket ignition. Rutan also said with the problems now identified, the next time SpaceShipOne flies, it will be to win the prize."

    So I guess it's:

    1. Fix control surface actuator
    2. Fix wind shear problem
    3. Profit!

    1. Re:Simple Process by SlashdotLemming · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reminds me of how I write software

      1. Write code
      2. Proclaim success!
      3. Prof... err, wait, some bugs
      4. Fix code
      5. Proclaim success!
      6. Prof... err, wait, some bugs
      7. Fix code
      8. Proclaim success!
      9. Prof... err, wait, some bugs
      ...

    2. Re:Simple Process by el-spectre · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've often defined programming as the process of thinking "Oh, I am a GOD!!" and then "Jesus, how stupid can I be", several times an hour :)

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    3. Re:Simple Process by zuzulo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think you forgot the most important part of the development process. So my general software development proceedure tends to look more like -

      1. Write code
      2. Proclaim success!
      3. Prof... err, wait, some bugs
      4. Fix code
      5. Proclaim success!
      6. Prof... err, wait, some bugs
      7. Customer or Management changes requirements
      8. goto 1.
      9. Profit!

      Maybe I should debug my development methodology, seeing as I never seem to get to step 9.

      The cool thing about the xprize is that it provides a fixed milestone for private companies to shoot for in a fixed timeframe.

      I am a big fan of the private 'prize' process, and think that with the success of the xprize we should figure out how to offer a slew of additional prizes to continue to stimulate private space efforts.

      I am somewhat surprized that there are not more prizes offered for solutions to hard problems in other areas. Seems like a cheap way for folks to get researchers motivated.

      Why not start a non-profit foundation whose sole purpose is to offer bounties with well defined acceptance criteria for a whole range of technical challenges? Any philanthropic and technically oriented billionaires up for the challenge? ;-)

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    4. Re:Simple Process by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I am a big fan of the private 'prize' process, and think that with the success of the xprize we should figure out how to offer a slew of additional prizes to continue to stimulate private space efforts.

      I think (hope?) that once the X-Prize has been won, there will be another prize put up for the first private flight into orbit, since that's the next big milestone in commercial spaceflight. Or maybe a prize for the first suborbital space flight to the other side of the planet - there are big applications for suborbital space flight as a replacement for normal air travel since once you get our of the atmosphere going hypersonic is much easier.

      I must admit that I didn't realise the prize expired at the end of this year though - that kinda puts a lot of pressure on everyone.

  6. See headlines now... by eamacnaghten · · Score: 5, Funny
    I can see the headlines - SpaceShipOne flies into space - passenger lands safetly near launch site...

    His luggage lands in Africa somewhere...

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    1. Re:See headlines now... by bsartist · · Score: 4, Funny

      The modders are trained to mod down posts that vibrate. They ignore posts that tick; modern trolls vibrate. They're careful never to imply ownership; in the case of a troll they refer to it as "a troll", never "your troll".

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    2. Re:See headlines now... by hanssprudel · · Score: 4, Funny

      One of the funniest dialogs in a film, ever:

      Narrator: Was it ticking?
      Airport Security Officer: Actually throwers don't worry about ticking 'cause modern bombs don't tick.
      Narrator: Sorry, throwers?
      Airport Security Officer: Baggage handlers. But, when a suitcase vibrates, then the throwers gotta call the police.
      Narrator: My suitcase was vibrating?
      Airport Security Officer: Nine times out of ten it's an electric razor, but every once in a while...
      [whispering]
      Airport Security Officer: it's a dildo. Of course it's company policy never to, imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article "a dildo", never "your dildo".
      Narrator: I don't own...

  7. Passengers by femto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I reckon Scaled Composites could almost make more than the value of the X-Prize if they offered those two empty seats for sale. It's almost worth starting a fake ebay auction just to see what price is reached!

  8. Chaos and Unpredictability by KitFox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nothing is really guarenteed to be perfect. The fact that there are factors that are beyond our control and completely unpredictable means that there is always a chance that something will go wrong. Fixing it and trying to make sure it doesn't go wrong again is all fine and everything, but there is always that probability factor that we cannot detect, calculate, or control.

    I am just quite glad that they had the backup system, because that is what prevented a catastrophy. If there is a x% chance that the primary system will fail, and x% that the backup will fail, combined it makes the chances of a catastrophy much lower.

    I believe that if we are going to be successful at a private space race, or even any other high-risk things (Even lacking risk to human life), then redundancy and backup is definitely critical. If a few failed heat tiles can destroy a space craft and kill people, and there is no contingency plan for failed heat tiles, that is a problem. If a computer miscalculation in Metric vs English measurements can completely throw off a multibillion-dollar space probe, and there is no way to recover when the error is first detected and has not yet caused problems, then that is just not right.

    I look forward to seeing if they win the prize, and I applaud them for having contingencies. If more systems had contigencies for the most critical failures, we'd possibly be much further ahead in various technologies. Let's see how this space race goes.

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    1. Re:Chaos and Unpredictability by MadCow42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Redundancy also has a cost - added cost, added weight, added complexity, added development time.

      The X-prize competitors probably will have SIGNIFICANTLY less redundancy than any NASA craft would ever have (triple redundancy is normal in spaceflight), but they'll also be cheaper, lighter, and faster-to-completion. The associated risks are ones that government-run institutions just wouldn't take.

      So, by putting the competition to the public instead of trying to achieve the same thing through NASA/etc. they're able to test riskier technologies quicker and cheaper - resulting in more significant technological advancement.

      The risks are great... but they're being taken by individuals that have weighed them and accept them, not a government that's accountable to it's populace.

      My meaningless 0.02.
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  9. Re:JC by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's doubtful that they could get their big vehicle together and working by the end of the year. John has said if Rutan fails they might make a push (ie, work on it more than the current 2 days a week and evenings) to get done by the end of the year for an attempt.

    According to John there is no other team even close, and I believe him.

  10. Re:another trip == couns:? by MrBlue+VT · · Score: 5, Informative

    The trip they made on the 21st of June did not count at all for the X-Prize. It did go past 100 km, but it did not have the additional weight necessary to simulate two passengers. Basically it was just another test flight. What was significant about it in a historical perspective is that this is the first time a privately owned company has put a man in space. Thus, they yet to even do the first of two flights required by the X-Prize.

  11. some questions by BelugaParty · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Paul Allen is worth more than a small country and he is funding Scaled Composites. If SC actually wins the X-Prize, will it really be a spectacular gain for space flight?

    NASA, on some level, is really an organization for several major and minor companies, why would it be ruled out of the prize?

    Will commercializing spaceflight be a step forward for space research? Why is it that when companies step into public domain scientific fields the results are inevitably viagra when there is still no cure for cancer, aids... etc. Public grants and public institutions (Nations and Universities) are still the bedrock for pure scientifc research. I only see economic and superficial consumerism inspired by the x-prize.

    What do you think?

    1. Re:some questions by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "Will commercializing spaceflight be a step forward for space research? ... when companies step in...the results are inevitably viagra when there is still no cure... etc. "
      Because recreational drugs like viagra and alchohol are more valued (practically by definition - they measure this value with their paychecks) by people than the hard-to-make-and-not-very-effective treatments for difficult to cure diseases.

      Similarly, Space Tourism has the potential to benefit many many people compared to the handful of astronauts who got to golf on the moon so far.

      " Public grants and public institutions (Nations and Universities) are still the bedrock for pure scientifc research. I only see economic and superficial consumerism inspired by the x-prize. "
      Public grants fund wierd artwork too. The outcome of both efforts (pure research and wierd artwork) is of direct interest to a pretty small class of people. I'm not saying it's a bad thing; just not wide-reaching.

      "NASA, on some level, is really an organization for several major and minor companies, why would it be ruled out of the prize?"

      Because NASA is doing it by taking other people's money. If NASA needed 10 more million, they have channels to ask for it. Scaled is doing it with their own.

    2. Re:some questions by Teancum · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is utter BS.

      NASA was started to consolidate flight research centers. They were scattered in several agencies, although the NCA, widely considered the predecessor to NASA, did operate many of them. With the importation of V-2 rockets from Germany (with a little help from the U.S. Amry going in and taking the rockets by force) rocket research really started to get into high gear. This is where the term "rocket scientist" really came into its own, because before that a rocket scientist was a crazy lunatic like Goddard or Oberth who loved to blow things up.

      Both the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Army got into a competition (not with Russia, but with each other) trying to see who could develop these rockets first and claim supremacy on their use. This was no different than what these two military branches did with aircraft just a mere 20 years earlier, including several officers who were involved with the early testing of military aircraft. Both the Navy and the Army Air Corp (later reorganized as the U.S. Air Force) launched thousands of rockets, learning quite a bit regarding how to build them, how to handle them, and what they really could be used for (in addition to putting a nuke on the top of them... that was obvious even to Hitler during WWII).

      Later on, particularly after Sputnik achieved orbit, the Eisenhower Administration looked around and saw three competing space programs in the U.S. government. That was the Army, Navy, and a very anemic NCA which was a civilian program. What happened was a transfer of many of the people involved with the Army and Navy programs to the NCA, which was then renamed to become NASA. The parallels with what happened after 9/11 to form the TSA and the Dept. of Homeland Security can compared to how NASA was formed, and this is almost typical knee jerk reaction by Congress.

      Because most of the working rocketry projects were already military, NASA took on a military flavor. And of course since many NASA personnel still had connections to the military, those people involved still tried to push goals that would benefit their respective armed services for weapons research. It paid off with the missile programs that are still maintained by the Air Force and Navy, which I guess was your "thinly veiled military control of the program".

      NASA was concieved as a civilian-run agency from the beginning because it was obvious to everybody involved that spaceflight would take on aspects that were clearly non-military as well. In addition to trying to sell the program to the American people by trying to give ordinary citizens a "stake" in the program, there was an implied concept that commercial interests would also get involved. AT&T built one of the first commercial satellites (Telestar) and even paid for the whole thing out of their own pocket, including the rocket construction and the salaries of most of the ground crew (by contract through NASA) to get the thing up into space. What happened to kill the Telestar program should speak volumes for what was to come from NASA and is still an issue today.

      The big push to seriously expand NASA occured during the Kennedy administration, where JFK was litterally reading some science fiction books, and got a sort of stary-eyed vision about where NASA could go. It was entirely his idea to get astronauts to the moon, and to push for NASA to become even more under civilian control. This was when the second batch of astronauts was announced, and included for the first time civilians like Neil Armstrong who did not hold military rank.

      Regarding Columbia: You are doing a huge disservice to the memory of those astronauts to even repeat a wild rumor that has no basis in fact. While there are many things I can complain about regarding how NASA dealt with Columbia, it was not an intentional and deliberate action to kill astronauts. If that were the case, there would be no astronaut corp left at NASA, and they more than anybody else would know more about those issues than any tin-hat conspiracy

  12. Re:Wind Shear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You should have been there for the first flight. I'm amazed that they got it off at all. The winds overnight were 40+ MPH on the ground (blew over 4 of the 7 porta-potties in the campground area on the airport grounds). They calmed down for the 6:30AM launch, but it was easy to see from the contrails behind the aircraft above that there was still a lot of wind up there.

  13. Re:Wind Shear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am a pilot, albeit an ordinary private pilot and not a spaceship pilot. I began flying in the 1970s around the time that "wind shear" first started to be considered as the possible cause of certain kinds of accidents. Although the phenomenon is real, for a while it became somewhat notorious as one of those "catch all" explanations that get hauled out when someone can't really figure out what happened. So when I hear it blamed in a conclusory way for something weird, without a good explanation for why it should apply, I get skeptical.

    The deal with wind shear is this. Ordinarily, airplanes move within moving masses of air and get carried along by them. This is no big deal except that it affects navigation (e.g., even though your nose is pointed north, you might really be tracking northeast because you are within a mass of air moving from west to east). Moving masses of air don't ordinarly affect the airplane in an "aerodynamic" sense because what matters is how the plane is moving relative to that mass of air, not relative to the ground. Wind shear occurs because there are often distinct boundaries between different masses of air that are moving in different directions or at different speeds. Hitting a wind shear boundary can be an issue because due to inertia (or momentum, whatever you prefer to call it), the plane does not instantly make the transition to the new conditions, so its situation changes temporarily relative to the air. But it's only scary when the extent of the change is greater than the aerodynamic limits for your airplane and your present attitude.

    For example, if you are flying at just five knots above stall speed, and you hit a boundary that has an abrupt ten knot difference in the wrong direction, it can pull the rug out from under you. But if you're flying at normal cruising speed, that same difference just causes a little turbulence. So to have a critical problem with wind shear you need both factors -- being near one of your aerodynamic limits (stall speed, red line, whatever) PLUS hitting a boundary that emphasizes the change in air movement in the WRONG direction for that limit.

    So the reason I am skeptical is that Rutan gives no explanation for how exactly wind shear caused the loss of control. Was the ship being operated near its stall speed? Was the wind shear differential totally huge? Was the ship in a weird attitude (high bank angle or something) that reduced its tolerance to changes in airspeed? And is there any meteorologic evidence of any big wind shear conditions at that place and time? Otherwise, it is just wishful thinking that he has an explanation for this?

  14. Re:I don't get it ... by frankmu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rutan probably had to change the dial from "10" to "11"

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  15. Re:Great, but... by FleaPlus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even when one ignores the potential billions of dollars in the suborbital tourism market, this also opens the door for intercontinental spaceflights. Even if they don't go into orbit, it still lets people get around the globe quite fast ("one hour from New York to Tokyo") without having to worry about things like sonic booms along their path. Such intercontinental spaceflights are a nice transition to orbital flights.

    Even if that's not enough to impress you, it certainly fills me with amazement.

  16. Re:Wind Shear by homb · · Score: 5, Informative

    No he wasn't travelling near his top speed. In fact it was just at the start of the climb.
    So I would tend to believe the wind shear explanation:

    At the start of the climb, the "plane" (more like a winged rocket, really) had high thrust but low speed, went vertical and hit wind shear. Each wing was going through a different wing mass, and this spun the plane 90 degrees. After that, the plane was going fast enough that wind shear didn't matter.

    Incidentally, I was there watching with another 20,000+ people. It was impressive, seeing this white streak shooting vertically.

  17. Re:Wind Shear by grozzie2 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    So the reason I am skeptical is that Rutan gives no explanation for how exactly wind shear caused the loss of control.

    Your explanation sounds great, but, you are using the wrong frame of reference. You are considering classic wind shear at low level/low speed accident scenarios, because that's what the schools teach about. Finding a shear greater than 20 knots at low level is rare indeed. Head up to the tropopause, and it's a totally different story.

    At the junction between troposphere and stratosphere is this little phenomena known as the 'jet stream'. 100 knots of shear on the boundary of the jet streams is actually 'quite normal' and 'not bad'. I've seen 150 knots of shear over a very short distance vertically (less than 2000 feet) while penetrating the jets. This is still not a huge big deal, just gets a little bumpy, but, take a good look at SS1.

    At the time of the roll event, the aircraft was accelerating on the initial rocket boost. It was in transonic, or early supersonic flight regimes. Penetrating a shear layer that gives a 100 knot difference in relative airspeed would set up some very very interesting asymetric shock wave scenarios, where the shock buildup on one side of the airframe is completely different than on the other. Even if this situation is just momentary, the asymetric forces will be huge, and cause a very noticeable deviation from nominal flight path projections.

    Your frame of reference for shear is 'low and slow' in 'low performance' aircraft. SS1 is a very high performance aircraft, operating 'high and fast'. The primary contributor to aerodymanic forces will be shock waves and various forms of drag they produce. It's a whole different world, and everything you learned about 'low and slow' just doesn't apply to the 'high and fast' flight regimes. The SS1 flight mode at the time of the upset was 'at or near vertical' at transonic or supersonic speeds. It would not be at all surprising to see a major upset in the craft stability if it accidently penetrated the core of a 150 knot jet during that flight condition.

    At this time of year, at those lattitudes, the core of the jets would be at an altitude in the area of 45 to 55 thousand feet. It would be unusual to see a jet core that far south in June, but, not unheard of. It's to late, and i'm really not inclined to go dig up old met charts from a couple weeks back, and see what kind of jet stream cores were over that part of california that morning. Sounds to me like that's what they may have hit, and, means the meteorology guys will be watching the jet charts a LOT closer for the next launches. Wouldn't surprise me at all that they even overlooked the detail, with an attitude of 'jet stream cores, over california, in june, who are you trying to kid?'. It's common in the winter, but not in the summer.

  18. Re:Impressive by EnglishTim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wouldn't really class Jon's team as close. Sure, they're definitely getting there, but the highest controlled flight they've done was only 131 feet high with a subscale model. Several of the other teams could have done the same thing and we'd never know about it - its just that Armadillo are very open about their progress.

    Actually, that's one of the things I really admire about Armadillo Aerospace - they've kept very little to themselves - anybody with some money, patience and skill could get going quite quickly by learning from the Armadillo website.

  19. Re:JC by grozzie2 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'll grant they are doing some interesting and probably fun playing with rocket engines. But, the X-Prize is about building a manned craft to go to into space. They have done basically zero vehicle design for the high altitude supersonic flight regimes required to achieve that. They have spent all thier time and effort fiddling with rocket engines basically.

    Serious X-Prize contenders realized early on, there's a lot of rocket technology available 'for sale' out there. They bought rocket engines, and concentrated on the difficult part of the engineering problems, the vehicle to get into space and back.

    There's 2 teams that have a chance of actually completeing the X-Prize flights this year. It's interesting, Scaled has used the 'all aerodymanic' approach, with a mothership for first stage lifting to get above troposphere. Da Vinci project is 'all ballistic' with a mothership to provide first stage lift above troposphere.

    Scaled is currently the odds on favorite to achive the X-Prize flights first. They have a really good chance, they have all the flight hardware, and it's been thru rigorous testing. Still, manned space flight is HARD (just check with Nasa for reference), and it's NOT a given that the SS1 + WK combination can complete 2 more flights without incident. A serious incident with either vehicle, and Scaled will be out of the running for the X-Prize, there isn't time left to replace either of them.

    Da Vinci project has flight tested engines, but, they have yet to flight test an all up final configuration. They have the permits in place, and, the hardware is built. They are expected to start flight testing within the next 6 weeks.

    Armadillo, well, they are tinkering with rockets, and writing a blog about it. They dont have a vehicle to mount an all up configuation rocket in, and they dont have a design to build one from. The X-Prize must be claimed this year, and Armadillo hasn't even got a vehicle design yet. No, they are not in the running, and have no hope of being in the running. If you haven't done the engineering analysis on a design, to validate it should be capable of withstanding the launch/recovery portions of the flight, and got the hardware built, ready to fly this summer, you are not in the running for the X-Prize. No matter how much money you throw at it, you are not going to design/build that package in the next 4 months, and if it's not flight ready in 4 months, you cant meet the requirements for winning the X-Prize.

  20. Re:Great, but... by foniksonik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "If you just want to get up there to launch a satellite" which has been done to death if you ask me.... I mean how many countries and companies already do this regularly, OH WAIT!

    The prize is for Manned Flight.

    Speaking of which, isn't "Space Flight" an oxymoron? Flight implies flying, movement through a medium using lift mechanisms. I was under the impression that generating lift required a medium a little more dense than the vacuum of space. Anyways... I don't see your Sub-Orbital Rocket Plane or Missile on the X-Prize list of contenders.. so that makes you:

    a hater, don't hate.

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  21. Control Limiting is a Serious Problem by Goldenhawk · · Score: 5, Informative

    A few months ago, I took a class on Pilot-Induced Oscillations (PIOs). As an aerospace engineer who works on military high performance aircraft, I know how bad PIOs can be, and just how deadly a problem they can be. This looks like a classic PIO, triggered by a control problem.

    To summarize the two-day class into one paragraph, a PIO is an oscillation that is generally sustained by pilot inputs, is usually triggered by some external event, and has at least two common causes: rate-limited control actuators, or so-called "phase lags" (lag between input and output).

    Relevant to this case, then, is the roll actuator (the hydraulic device responsible for moving the roll control surfaces). It sounds from the non-technical answer in the article "the actuator delayed moving one of the ship's flaps" like a rate-limited actuator. The pilot demanded a larger input faster than the system was able to provide, so the control surface hit its stop.

    What ends up happening, in such a case, is that the pilot doesn't get the overall response he expects, so he puts in MORE input. But then it turns out to be too much, so he puts in a response the other way - but it takes a while to start reacting, so he puts in MORE input... etc. etc. etc..

    Also, the "external event" in this case was probably a wind shear. You can have a PIO-prone system and it will fly just fine - right up until you hit that trigger event which is just large enough to throw you into a PIO - and then you're basically hosed. Nothing you can physically do will stop the PIO - OTHER than just releasing the controls and letting everything stop naturally - because it's the inputs that drive the oscillation. And you can bet that's quite frightening for a control-freak pilot who's afraid he's about to lose control. Takes a LOT of training in how to recognize it for what it is; stopping it is easy (if you have time or altitude) - just let go.

    To fix a control system that has PIO problems, you can (a) increase the authority of the control device, (b) increase the response speed of the device, or (c) decrease the phase lag so it responds more quickly. None of those fixes are trivial, unless they're caused by a broken component.

    I'm quite sure Rutan, of all people, is intimately familiar with this issue, and I have no doubt that he and his team will address it appropriately.

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    1. Re:Control Limiting is a Serious Problem by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Funny
      Nothing you can physically do will stop the PIO - OTHER than just releasing the controls and letting everything stop naturally - because it's the inputs that drive the oscillation. And you can bet that's quite frightening for a control-freak pilot who's afraid he's about to lose control. Takes a LOT of training in how to recognize it for what it is; stopping it is easy (if you have time or altitude) - just let go.

      I remember an Air Force F-15 pilot telling my father a couple stories about training fighter pilots in some Islamic Persian Gulf state (dunno - I was only 8 years old then). He said the students had an alarming habit of reacting to control difficulties during training flights by letting go of the stick, throwing their arms in the air and shouting "Allahu Akbar". This reaction worked when the trouble was PIO, but he frequently had to take control because the students would simply let go and trust Allah to fly the plane out of trouble for them! One time, shortly before returning to the US, the training aircraft suffered some sort of serious failure and the student pilot shouted "Allahu Akbar" repeatedly as the plane spun out of control. He (the instructor) yelled at him to eject, but he just kept saying "Allahu Akbar". So the instructor ejected and landed without serious injury, while the student rode the plane all the way into the ground.

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