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Microsoft Responds to IE Criticism

darthcamaro writes "Looks like there was an online free-for-all on Microsoft's chat servers yesterday with Internet Explorer engineers. Several interesting things come out in the story including the fact that the IE big wig thinks that all of his engineers should have other browsers installed to see what they can do and, catch this...he thinks they're the underdog. 'I've worked at Microsoft for 14 years and I have always felt like the underdog,' said Hachamovitch. 'Maybe the road behind us looks easy, but at the time going it wasn't. I welcome the feedback today. Getting informed is the only way I know to get better. The day we don't get heated feedback I'll be concerned.'" Reader nkodengar notes that "Microsoft has posted an article on MSDN listing everything that will be affected by the the updates to Internet Explorer in Service Pack 2. This will be particularly important to developers who use ActiveX controls, pop-up windows and file download counters in their websites..."

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  1. In Soviet Russia, by 192939495969798999 · · Score: -1, Troll

    In Soviet Russia, IE chooses you!
    oh wait, that's here. It's like an election with one name on the ballot; you can get another ballot if you want, but they don't have any in the building... you have to go to some obscure floor (the 13th floor,perhaps?) in the library to get the full ballot.

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  2. Re:Microsoft are lying to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    you're a fucking loser. all of your posts are shit and your journal entries are pure garbage - dickslapper.

    why don't you give it up? say, have you ever been laid? the answer is no. you're a fucking toolshed. that's right - you're not a tool, you're an entire collection of tools. no one wants to be your friend so shut the fuck up and stop posting your idiotic drivel. you're so pathetic. you aren't even cool enough to be a troll - you're a fucking troll worshipper. you think your troll friends respect you? no, you're the bitch that is doing the most gay shit possible. troll interviews? who the fuck thinks up that shit? you're a jackass. shut the fuck up and stop posting your garbage. you are a complete loser you worthless fuckstain. your mother is a gutter whore and i hate you.

  3. In support by Guitar+Wizard · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't see why so many people bash Internet Explorer (IE). Yes, there are more "secure" browsers out there, such as FireFox, but it's been my experience that IE not only loads pages faster, but has more features and support than FireFox and other browsers do. I have used IE my entire life, and I've never gotten any adware/spyware/viruses on my machine (cookies, of course). Why? Because I implement good browsing habits, like NOT clicking 'Yes' to Gator installations and other programs like it. I think that most users of other browsers criticize IE because it is popular, not because it is a bad browser. SP2 for Windows XP adds pop-up blocking functionality to IE, and from what I can tell so far it works rather well. I'm anxious to see what will happen in the "browser race" in the future.

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  4. correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    Internet Explorer in Service Pack 2

    That should be WinXP SP2, not IE SP2. They are two different products.

  5. Re:Microsoft are lying to us by Aliencow · · Score: -1, Troll

    How do you call two lesbians in a closet?

    a liquor cabinet!

    har har har!

    david_ross42@hotmail.com

  6. Re:Microsoft are lying to us by grendelkhan · · Score: -1, Troll

    Guy comes home from work to find his girlfriend holding the newspaper with tears in her eyes.

    "What's the matter hon?" he says.

    "You're in the newspaper today!" she screams, throwing it at him. "They say you're a pedophile!"

    He looks at her and says "Now, that's an awfully big word for a twelve year-old."

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  7. Re:Interesting comment about feedback... by rjung2k · · Score: 0, Troll

    My question is this: Are we so anti-Microsoft that we'll settle for clunkier software without complaint, just because it's not made by Microsoft?

    Hell, I'm so anti-Microsoft I use superior software without complaint.

    It's called a "Macintosh." Try it some time. ;-)

  8. Re:CSS CSS CSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    that's because it's a beginner's page, fucktard. learn how to code and come back later.

  9. Underdog? Ha! by Exmet+Paff+Daxx · · Score: 0, Troll

    What he doesn't understand is that he can't be the underdog because he's not competing. To compete you have to have a product to sell. Internet Explorer is not for sale. First person to find a link to a site selling Internet Explorer proves me wrong.

    Illegal product dumping is not competition.

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    If guns kill people, then CmdrTaco's keyboard misspells words.
  10. Re:Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Listed here in the latest story of trashdot.

  11. Re:Microsoft the underdog. by Rick+and+Roll · · Score: -1, Troll

    Based on your name, you are in/from Europe. If I'm wrong, please accept my apology. If I'm correct, I'd like to remind you that the U. S. has saved your asses at least twice.

  12. Re:There are IE Engineers?!? by pipingguy · · Score: 0, Troll


    Please stop using the term "engineer" when discussing software. Unless an "engineer" is actually designing the hardware bits, s/he is a software developer or software designer, programmer or coder.
    http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stag e=1&word=engineer

    Sorry, I have to run and see my "Doctor" (a phrenologist).

  13. Re:thats crap by toiletmonster · · Score: 0, Troll

    so... you don't think people are capable of figuring out what they want to buy?

    maybe you are right. maybe someone should decide for us. that way when we go to walmart we can find just one brand for each product. that way no one will ever have to make any decisions. why not just centrally plan the whole economy? it worked so well for the soviet union.

  14. Re:Why not? by Wolfrider · · Score: -1, Troll

    Parent -2 Troll

    --Oh, bullshit. I've been using Netscape (and more recently, Opera) in both Linux and Windoze for YEARS.

    --Almost anyone who thinks "IE is the Internet" probably has a local geek who's been trying to educate them, but they just don't LISTEN.

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    == WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
  15. Exactly. by Exmet+Paff+Daxx · · Score: 0, Troll

    The Mozilla Foundation doesn't sell product, and therefore falls outside of capitalistic competition. Internet Explorer is being dumped for free into the market, and only Opera is actually competing in the marketplace.

    Moz & i.e. may compete for mindshare, but when there's no product to sell, marketshare doesn't exist. The only people competing for browser marketshare are Opera, because only Opera takes money for browser software.

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    If guns kill people, then CmdrTaco's keyboard misspells words.
  16. Glad to see mozilla is just as secure.... by rwrife · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm glad to see that Mozilla is striving to mimic IE in every way: http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040709-0 25323-6615r.htm

  17. Re:Why not? by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 0, Troll
    It cracks me up that Mac users have to send their computers back for "Mother board issues" and they're still loyal to Appple!

    If I bought an IBM laptop that had problems like that, my next one would be a Sony!