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The Good Old Patent Law - Revisited

trifakir writes "Scientific American talks about the imperfections of the current patent law, subject to the book of two authors from the Harvard Business School. It seems that even business people start seeing the insanity of the current patent system. This time it seems that they are not only criticizing, but suggesting some procedural amendments (e.g. patent conflicts resolved by a judge and not by a jury). Do you think that any of these has chances being heard by the big wigs?"

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  1. for those who won`t RTFA by gordo3000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is just an overview of some ideas that have been pinging around slashdot and several other communities for a while. Namely, that because of some small changes that seemed to be for the better, patents are now under the jurisdiction of a court that loves them and the patent office is encouraged to rush patents through without thinking because they get their funding that way rather than from taxpayers.

    The failings of this seem obvious after our discussions here, and I think that because the patent office is not supposed to be some pro business advocate but rather, a group of people set up to facilitate innovation into uncharted technologies(hence not obvious and no prior art) now just stifles innovation as obvious extensions of old ideas are inhibbiting their usage in useful R&D.

    I think the review shows authors that really stand for a sane position, one that doesn`t completely remove the patent system but rather turns it back into what it was originally intended to be(not giving patents to companies for marketing the PB&J sandwich without crust, yes, its a patent according to the article). When this book comes out, I will be on the lookout because it seems these people have some ideas that need to get some attention and they have the clout to go somewhere with these ideas. Our representatives are only as sleavy as we permit them to be so we have to read up so we have some real knowledge and show our support for a complete overhall of the patent system and a review of many patents granted in the last 10 years(especially technology patents). Kudos to these authors for bringing this debate into what might become the main stream.

    1. Re:for those who won`t RTFA by Peyna · · Score: 3, Interesting

      A good chunk of the patent office's revenue is sent to other places in the government. Very little of it stays with them. If they changed that, and made it so they got to keep most of that money, they could be a lot more efficient.

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  2. Judge vs jury by Sowelu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With a jury, at least you know they're generally ignorant and fairly easily swayed, but you can hope they'll all do alright. While a judge would supposedly be an expert on the subject, far too often they might not actually understand the technology at issue... and that's not even to mention what a little judicial activism -one direction or the other- could do.

    1. Re:Judge vs jury by trifakir · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't you think that you have relatively higher chance of explaining what is a "nanotube" to someone who is sufficiently educated, even in law, than to a group of housewives and computer technicians?

  3. trouble-shooting by cagle_.25 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of Lerner-and-Jaffe's planks is the idea of allowing "obvious" patents to be challenged (like Amazon's one-click patent). The problem with this is the obviousness of hindsight. What happens to an idea that is merely one grade of brilliance beyond the "obvious"? You have twenty guys coming out of the woodworks saying "I thought of that." It seems to me that the obvious criterion will lead to just as much legal wrangling as the fights over who took which code from whom.

    That said, I support what they're doing. I don't think that ideas can actually be owned. (*** ducks ***)

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  4. I can break that patent in.... by NoneExpected · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Recently I attended a corporate IP (intellectual property) seminar. I work for a large, Fortune500 company. After 8 hours of 5 lawyers droning I came away with this. The starting cost of protecting a patent worldwide is $450,000 USD, to effectively attack an already awarded patent starts at $450,000 USD. Many companies looking to bust a patent are searching the old Soviet Union's past research journal archives for prior art. They are not computerized and evidently they have proven to be a rich source. They also discussed how some companies patent similar ideas in order to cause enough doubt in the plantiff's lawyers on a clear court victory, so the plantiffs lawyers will look for a cheap license arrangement.

  5. Re:No changes for the better while... by slimyrubber · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Patents are supposed to protect and stimulate inventions for those that do the research, requiring an actual product that is being sold makes this very hard for individual researchers, and very easy for the big companies.
    True, the patent system does not work for small enterprises and individuals. It wasn't even designed for inventors in the first place, but for the industry. For example, Most software are built on existing code, and the only way programmers can avoid patent infringements is by paying for a patent search, which is an expensive and lengthy process.
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  6. Peer Review Should be required by mrwiggly · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When someone files for a patent, they are attempting to lock down a "non-obvious" solution to a problem.

    What if patent examiners posed that problem to other experts in the field. If they come up with a similar solution, patent denied.

  7. Re:No changes for the better while... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Fifth, why patents in software at all? The field has prospered much more than other technical fields, without having them.
    That is the key question we should ask. The only problem is, politicians and industrialists already have the answer: "Most major software companies come from the US, where they have software patents. So there must be something to them there patent thingies". And recently, companies like Philips, Siemens and Nokia spoke out in favor of patents, claiming that all of the 18 billion they spent on R&D annually would go to waste is they didn't get their patents on software.

    In light of such baloney and ignorance, it's no use trying to argue rationally.
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  8. Patent Reform by Strych9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think one would remove a lot of the court sleeper patents if:

    1. Patents were only issued to a demonstratable working device.
    2. Patents were non transferable where the "rights" could not be bought or sold from one company to another.
    3. For each patent category, peer standards commitees, for example such as IEEE, would oversee the initial granting, and re-evaulation.

    The unfortunate part is that it is a balance between protecting the ability of someone to innovate and create with some protection from the vultures versus the same vultures planting the landmines trying to extort money from people trying to create new ideas.

    The real question is : How do you balance both sides, when you can't count on any level of ethics, and really only greed, to drive decisions?