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PC Magazine Reviews Firefox, Opera

prostoalex writes "PC Magazine reviews Mozilla Firefox 0.9.1 and Opera 7.51, noting: 'Security concerns aren't the only reason to seek an alternative [to Internet Explorer]. IE's slow rendering engine and dearth of privacy features may plant the thought in some iconoclastic minds that it may not be the best browser for everyone.' 4 stars for Firefox and 3.5 for Opera, so looks like a Firefox win, although the editors do point out FF's troubles with DHTML as well as Opera issues with JavaScript."

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  1. Does this mean... by Atmchicago · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...that I should stop running Internet Explorer using wine, and try Firefox?

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    1. Re:Does this mean... by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Funny

      I... I think you just made my brain explode.

    2. Re:Does this mean... by happyfrogcow · · Score: 5, Funny

      depends.

      Are you running Wine on Longhorn with SFU? If so, no. Otherwise, yes.

    3. Re:Does this mean... by commodoresloat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Longhorn comes with Shut the Fuck Up?

    4. Re:Does this mean... by mr.capaneus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Longhorn comes with Shut the Fuck Up?
      Yes. It comes with a nice steaming cup of it.

    5. Re:Does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I didn't use it much beyond a quick test for "hey, that's kinda neat" value, but it seemed to work as well as in windows.

      And when you'd finished formatting your hard disk and reinstalling Linux/BSD/whatever you were using, did you vow never to touch it again?

    6. Re:Does this mean... by k4_pacific · · Score: 4, Funny
      That's nothing, check this out:

      http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=824973

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  2. Proof is in the Pudding by darth_MALL · · Score: 5, Funny

    "IE's slow rendering engine "
    Sad but true. The review page has been loading for almost a minute now :(

  3. Unimplemented feature by riqnevala · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Sorry, this browser does not support automated installation of trojans and other malicious applications, please upgrade to MSIE to further risk your computer security"

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  4. Re:Alright Mozilla by Trigun · · Score: 5, Funny

    But all the FUD was created by IE anyways.

    I fear that I will have my personal information stolen.
    I am uncertain that the IE Developers are competent programmers.
    I doubt that I will switch back to IE in the near future.

  5. Re:User-Agent stats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Slashdot was 90% Internet Explorer

    Maybe this is just flamebait, but this just confirms the thought I've always had in the back of my head that Slashdot is visited by a lot of hypocrites. I still love it though, just more as entertainment than anything else... Just like I listen to NPR to hear the crazies...

  6. Re:Ingrained attitudes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, it's like Car & Driver downgrading a car in a review because it's doors have locks on them.

  7. Re:IE User by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Funny

    I was in the same situation as you... so I went to mozilla.org, and downloaded the full package and installed it.

    A week later I realize that Mozilla and Firefox are different... I go "D'OH!" but I'm too lazy to download, uninstall mozilla, and install firefox, import my links, etc.

    So I guess I'll be using Mozilla until years after people point out I should upgrade to whatever...

  8. Best Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The browser isn't perfect, however. Firefox does not render nonstandard DHTML properly, nor does the Mozilla Organization have any intention of releasing a browser that does.

    Well, good for them!

    Durrrr!

  9. Re:Opera... by fr2asbury · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean there are 3 bitches to every star? Are we talking Hollywood here?

  10. Re:Alright Mozilla by JVert · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't that the best way? consider a spider crawling up your leg, once you feel the spider crawling and ready to bite you, a knee jerk reaction occurs. Really you have to get used it it, cause every new version of (brand x) pants have the same damn spider embedded in them.

  11. Re:Go Firefox Go by solarium_rider · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ahh, see that's where you went wrong. Now your actually gonna have to buy your own beer.

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  12. Re:Alright Mozilla by spacemky · · Score: 3, Funny

    isn't FUD usually just speculation and half-truths.

    I don't know. Ask Michael Moore.

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  13. Re:Alright Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yep, IE really puts the Monster in demonstrably horrible security...

  14. Re:Opera... by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 2, Funny
    there is a button on the toolbar that lets you toggle images on and off without the need for changing your preferences
    Actually, that is somewhat untrue. You can set it to view cached images as well. This tells Opera to set the images holders according to size, but not load the images that you don't have. You could then right click on the image that you want to see, select "Load image". Setting images to off, then selecting "Load image" doesn't work as well for some reason.

    It's hard for me to explain, but I have permanently set it the way that I've described. Once you try it for a day, then you'll never turn back. You could always turn images on/off as you've described.
  15. Firefox by t0rc · · Score: 3, Funny

    I always thought that in order to use Firefox you needed to be able to think in Russian. I'm surprised you don't see microsoft pointing this out as drawback.

  16. Re:Alright Mozilla by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Funny
    Wow, that's pretty horrible. And their Javascript is ugly too. Invalid declarations, scripts downloaded from third-party sites, testing for either document.all or document.layers.. their web developer needs to be fired. Here's the offending VBScript:

    <Script Language="VBScript">
    location.assign "../../WebFW/LTN-527T/52T5S0B.zip"
    </Script>

    Gee, there's just no other way they could have done that, now is there?

    /sarcasm
  17. Re:User-Agent stats? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Looks like Firefox isn't the only thing that you're plugging!

  18. Re:Alright Mozilla by Ari_Haviv · · Score: 2, Funny

    a bit ironic to rely on acvtivex to try to secure your pc?

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