Pilgrimage 2004 American Demoparty Announced

RaD Man [ACiD] writes "Pilgrimage 2004, the one and only American demoparty, will be held this September 17-18th in Salt Lake City, Utah; the birthplace of modern computer graphics. Coders, artists, musicians and enthusiasts from around the world will be turning out to learn, socialize and compete for fame and fortune. An audio-visual invitation real-time demo is also available."

Comments

Vote Demoparty 2004!

[Commander Trollco]

No word on candidates yet.

One Word:

[yuvtob]

Demo "eXistenZ" - captial x, capital z - new from Pilgrimage.

Re:One Word:

[Orick]

I can't attend. Anyone willing to at least send me the demo of the event so I can play the first few levels?

Re:hmm

[radd0]

Pilgrimage 2004 will be hosting a classic computer museum featuring demos running on original C64 and Amiga hardware (amongst several other oldschool machines), so an emulator should not be necessary. :-)

What's with the hotel listing?

[AltaMannen]

It's a demo party, so why would they have hotel listings.. people sleep or something?

Do I like Demos?

[krahd]

Yep, actually I don't know. Does it make sense to like something just because it is very hard to achieve? Is it art? Would it be the same a party or compo about who makes the biggest pile of cards? Or is it a sport? (ain't it what athletics is all about? doing useless stuff better/faster than the others?).

What bothers me is that offline rendering achieves much better graphics, so, again: what's the point? Is it beauty? Why then don't go offline? Realtime rendering obvius strength relies on interactivity, but demos are not interactive...

That said, I think I do like demos. I download'em mourning for the day I'll be so rich that I'll travel to every demoparty which looks cool...

--krahd

p.s. I love sports too, the list goes that way: sex, surfing, reading, football, eating are top 5 things of the world :)
p.p.s. football is what most-of-you call soccer. Do you know why? 'cos it's original name was "Footbal Association" (that's where the A of FIFA comes from). So soccer comes from asSOCiation

Re:Do I like Demos?

[Anonymous Coward]

the how you do something is as important as the result. traditionally, the demoscene has not been about the artistic value of the created works perse, though as the medium has evolved, it's focus has shifted more towards that. but still, a lot of it is about just being *able* to things. like, being *able* to make a functional 3d engine work on a C64, being *able* to fit a fully functioning texture generator, softsynth, 3d engine plus effects and 2d effects into 64KB.

art is more than about just the way it looks, wether we're talking about computer art or traditional art.

Re:Do I like Demos?

[Knos]

In a more didactic way:

First, the scene is a community, so it is not so much about demos than about the way they are created and shared.

One of the main values is efficiency. People can and will distribute demos and intros easily because they are rather small and efficient. Inefficiency (pre-rendered movies) hurts redistribution.

Secondly, by having to be run realtime, demos emphasize code over any other sort of more static methods to create visuals/music. It is in that sense necessarly a generative discipline, whose medium is the manipulation of information and the emergence of concrete visuals / sounds from an abstract material, the code.

Thirdly, well, the scene is no more interesting than tractor pulling or poker championships, I guess it does look very similar at times. It plays the computer equivalent to what graffiti plays for the visual arts:
- a style
- a pop movement
- a new medium

That Teapot

[0racle]

I always wondered why that teapot was a standard privative in 3d Studio Max. Also another siting they don't seem to have in there is the 3d pipes screen saver. If you changed the joint options to 'Mixed' on the 3d pipes screensaver in Windows and watch it for a while, some of the joints will be that teapot.

Re:That Teapot

[foobsr]

A Brief History of The Utah Teapot.

With dataset.

CC.

the first north american demo party - NAID 95

[Technomancer]

http://www.fusecon.com/pubs/txtfiles/naid95.txt
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