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Tour De France Showcases Multitude Of Tech

whoda writes "When you think of a bicycle, you most likely think of 2 tires, a chain, some gearing of some sort, and other assorted mechanical bits. However, when Lance Armstrong, Jan Ullrich, and over 180 other riders get together to compete at the Tour de France every year, there is a lot of technology that comes along for the ride too. From Lance's Sunglass'/MP3 Player to the advanced use of composites seen on Tyler Hamilton's time trial bike, there are many examples of high technology making the racers faster through better training, materials and aerodynamics."

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  1. Bio tech too! by darth_MALL · · Score: 3, Insightful
  2. Re:Wind tunnels & race numbers by Short+Circuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wouldn't fitting the paper under a tight clear-plastic vest do the trick?

  3. It gets a little overboard too by slutdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know we're talking about the TDF and those guys are on a different plane of existence here but there's something I've got to say about some non-pro cyclists out there.

    While I agree that the use of technology is important in cycling, there's only so much one can do without having to rely on natural talent and training. Spending $180 for a 13 cm piece of metal in order to save 50 grams, is a problem. I see it with the guys I ride with. They'll spend a shit load of cash on a Litespeed titanium bike or a Trek 5200 but will still mow down a pizza after a ride and not think about the fact that they can get over those hills a little faster if they weren't carrying a anchor on their gut.

    1. Re:It gets a little overboard too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I have seen guys on $99.00 HUFFY bikes outpace the "serious" guys riding with $7000-9000 worth of bike.

      The technology helps you ONLY if you are in peak performance. the guy that is in perfect shape WILL see a difference getting a lighter bike completely as well as getting low rolling resistance tires.

      most weekend riders that have the money to blow on "flashy" crud like that are far from being in perfect shape and therefore get put in their place by the poor local olympic hopeful riding a piece of absolute junk.

      and I grin wide as I see it happen as they pass me on my recumbent.

      Oh, and I'll chanllenge any of them to a 1000 mile ride.. let's see if their overpriced bike can take them as far as my recumbent can. I regularly get 2X the distance between stops than a regular bike rider get's.. and every second you are stopped I gain on you or increase my lead extremely fast.

    2. Re:It gets a little overboard too by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The ones I always get a kick out of are the people riding $2000 alumininum, fully suspended, knobby-tired mountain bikes down the street. Guys, you realize a $200 steel road bike would be much faster, right?

    3. Re:It gets a little overboard too by wwest4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      100% agree.

      I was doing a norba race and once I finished I chilled out on the trail to watch some of the other heats. I saw a guy on a very sweet, expensive and light-looking XC bike carry over a 6-inch log.

      In the same race I finished just ahead of a guy I see often on the circuit. He rides on an old rigid bike, and he was hammering through the bony sections anyway. I've broken a rigid bike (stem failed) on the same trail. If had any suspension at all he probably would have toasted me.

      The moral ends up being that gear helps, but honing your skills on crappy gear helps you appreciate the pricier stuff even more. When coming up, skill and fitness are paramount - everything else is secondary, and it makes a lot of sense to save your money early on to make sure you like the sport and to get a fitness and skill base going.

  4. Re:If they really wanted to go faster by wk633 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hour record for a fully faired recumbant is over 100kph, solo, on the flats. Granted, the operative word is 'fully faired'. That's a shell around a rider.

    The point is, bike racing is a lot more complicated than going faster than anyone else alone in a straight line on the flats. Sprints, climbinb, break aways, team strategy all play a roll.

  5. Re:Queue the... by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cycling is not like Formula One, something I hesitate to call sport any more. Some of the new technology is well cool and anything that makes a bike lighter and stiffer is welcomed by racing cyclists but one fact remains, the cyclist still has to pedal the damn thing. In racing it boils down to legs, lungs and desire at the end of the day because there is no major technology diffentiator possible on a bike. Lance Armstrong on his postmans bike will always thrash his postman on the latest and greatest technology.

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  6. How to get a lighter bike... by raygundan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Q: What's the cheapest way to shave 500g off your bike weight?

    A: Lose 500g.

  7. Re:Tyler Hamilton's Homepage by FlashBac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I doubt Tyler will take it this year. Heras might kill them on the Mtn TT, and Ulrich might kill them on the "final" TT day, ie not the roll into Paris. These are the two crux days. It will probably revolve around these two days. Some are worried about the central Massiff, Lance et alia didnt prep there, Tyler did. But, Lances team can control this I feel.
    I would say essentially three guys will be in the running going into the final TT. And, I dont think Tyler is there, it will be Lance, Heras and Ullrich.
    Not to say Tyler hasnt got balls. He has plenty, but, its that last TT that will not be good for him, compared to say Ullrich, or Lance. :)

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  8. Re:Sunglass mp3 player. by Dav3K · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny thing about the Tour de France though...automobile traffic is SO not an issue.

  9. Re:MP3 by wk633 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I see the sunglasses as being a better replacement to the current radio ear-bud.

    What I'd like to know more about is what kind of technology is in place to protect those radio conversations. You'd have to bet that Saiz, Godefroot and Riis would love to listen in on Bruyneel and Armstrong. (directors sportif for Heras, Ullrich, Hamilton and Armstrong)

  10. Re:If they really wanted to go faster by avi33 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are plenty other regulations for international competitive cycling:
    -the entire bicycle must weigh at least 6.8 kg
    -the frame must be of the 'double diamond' design (this rules out recumbents)
    -no fairings
    -all competitors are encouraged to use performance enhancing drugs (and their masking agents), as long as the team manager's girlfriend's doctor's cousin carries them.

  11. Standard Equipment by bsd4me · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I seriously doubt that standard equipment will make it into the UCI rules. Mainly, there are too many variables for proper bike fit. Something minor, like pedal style, can make a big positive or negative impact on a rider. Other things, like leg to torso to arm proportions, make geometry standardization totally unfair.

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    1. Re:Standard Equipment by michael_cain · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. Even the casual rider will notice a large difference over the course of several kilometers between two essentially identical bikes, one properly fitted and the other not. The current rules do "standardize" enough -- double triangle geometry, minimum weight -- to avoid the worst of the America's Cup fiascos. The kinds of changes that are being made in wheels and such these days seem to be second- or third-order effects: as another poster pointed out, wind tunnel tests show that one of the largest sources of drag in the current bike/rider configuration is the paper rider identification numbers each rider must wear.

  12. Re:Slashdot bias towards bicycles by christopherfinke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, the poster makes no assumptions about cycles in general; only bicycles, which, by definition, have two wheels. Nice try, but you have to pay attention to the details to get the +5 Funny.

  13. It's still about the riders by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The technology is neat, but the technology can't actually win the race. It's still about the riders.

    Lance has a cool bike, but all the Tour de France riders have good bikes. There is a limit to how much benefit you can get with a better bike, and all the tour guys have bikes that are close to this limit.

    The slowest of the Tour riders, on a bad day, could ride me into the ground on a 20-year-old piece-of-junk bike, even if I were on my good bike. Sure I could climb Alpe d'Huez, but it would take me at least a couple of hours, and the Tour guys race up it in 40 minutes or so, as just part of a 5 or 6 hour day of racing!

    The most important tech to Lance is the tech he uses in training. He trains and trains. They measure his power output in Watts, how many Calories he burns, how much wind drag he has on his time trial bike. It's his training that will win the race, his training and good tactics (both his and his team director, Johan Bruyneel).

    P.S. The Tour rules have a lower limit on how much a bike can weigh. I think this is a good idea. There is a point at which "light" becomes "stupid light"; where the too-light components aren't strong enough and things start to break. The minimum weight will keep the bikes from getting into a stupid-light arms race.

    The Tour rules also now require helmets, and the helmets have to actually be able to protect the riders' heads. Last year riders wore lightweight helmets for the time trial stages, and the lightweight helmets were basically just streamlined shells that wouldn't protect them at all in a crash. This year even the time trial helmets are required to meet crash safety standards. I'm in favor of the idea.

    steveha

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  14. Re:Tyler Hamilton's Homepage by carambola5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Tenacity... yes. More than Lance? I really doubt it.

    -Brain Surgery
    -Testicular Surgery
    -Lungs full of tumors
    -Grosjean catheter
    -One round of BEP chemotherapy
    -Three rounds of VIP chemotherapy

    And after all that, he wins 5 TDFs in a row. I think that qualifies as tenacity.

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