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BitTorrent Beats Kazaa In Traffic Numbers

prostoalex writes "CacheLogic attempted to measure the peer-to-peer network traffic by installing their network monitoring tools in data centers of large ISPs. The results are in, and Bram Cohen's BitTorrent overtook Kazaa's FastTrack network. BitTorrent traffic amounted to 53% of all peer-to-peer traffic, according to CacheLogic. It's worth noting, though, that Kazaa traffic is highly seasonal, as a lot of high-schoolers and college students are simply on vacation this time of year."

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  1. Re:How can they accurately measure it? by Mondongo · · Score: 5, Informative

    I remember on a NYT interview that Bram Cohen said that all BitTorrent packets were not encrypted nor decentralized. All machines must connect to the tracker in order to download, so there ARE ways to measure it.

  2. Re:How can they accurately measure it? by athakur999 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They installed their monitoring system at the ISPs, so they can just analyze packets going into and out of the ISP's network. Kazaa packets and BitTorrent packets will look different and be destined for different ports, so it wouldn't be too difficult for the software to tell the difference.

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  3. Re:It would be interesting... by athakur999 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's also worth noting that most people use BitTorrent for larger files like ISOs. So even though the traffic in bytes in higher, I'm willing to byte when it comes to "number of files transferred", Kazaa still has the lead.

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  4. MPAA monitors BitTorrent traffic by unisol5 · · Score: 5, Informative

    MPAA monitors bittorent traffic from sites such as suprnova.org. They constantly send out letters to ISPs that explains which movie was donwloaded, and how the ISP should proceed with the client. So, downloading several movies from suprnova.org is not a good idea, because MPAA sees what everyone downloads. BitTorrent is in no way an anonymous download.

    1. Re:MPAA monitors BitTorrent traffic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
      I can confirm this...
      Anti-Piracy Operations
      PHONE: (818) 728 - 8127
      Email: MPAA@copyright.org <mailto:MPAA@copyright.org>

      Via Fax/Email

      RE: Unauthorized Use of Copyrighted Motion Pictures
      Reference#: [Withheld] (M)
      IP Address: [Withheld]
      Date of Infringement: [Withheld]

      The title(s) offered included:
      WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT

      Specifically, we have identified the following material as infringing:

      Infringement Detail:
      Infringing Work: WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT
      Filepath: Who Framed Roger Rabbit-avi(1).torrent/
      Filename: Who Framed Roger Rabbit.avi
      First Found: [Withheld]
      Last Found: [Withheld]
      Filesize: 748,644k
      IP Address: [Withheld]
      IP Port: 6885
      Network: BTPeers
      Protocol: BitTorrent

      Please contact us at the above listed address or by replying to this email should you have any questions. Kindly include the above noted Reference # in the subject line of all email correspondence.

      We thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is requested.

      Respectfully,
      Motion Picture Association of America
      There was more to the email, specifically steps we need to take and such, but it just made it way to long and boring.
    2. Re:MPAA monitors BitTorrent traffic by foofie · · Score: 4, Informative

      Erm...I think he means they are recording your IP if you join the swarm...Much easier to track than Kazaa actually. In some BT clients it'll display all the IP's right on the screen.

  5. Re:How can they accurately measure it? by nkh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Everything is explained in the documentation if you ever need to write your own client (or alternatively, you could look at the Python source code which is very interesting for all the lazy CS students on holiday like me ;)

  6. Re:Source for .torrents? by jomas1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Besides suprnova there is also: http://www.torrentreactor.net/torrents/ http://www.pleasure-torrent.com/ (porn only)

  7. Who needs it by smclean · · Score: 5, Informative

    Who needs P2P software when people leave movies unprotected on their websites all the time? Click on any website on this google search, see what movies they have, and leech em.

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  8. Re:It would be interesting... by moonbender · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well, I agree with your result - that the vast majority of bytes transferred using BT have the illegal bit set - but not with your means of getting there: looking at SuprNova is bound to result in a vast majority of the illegal stuff because, well, that's kind of what SuprNova is for. I mean, it's a (semi-) open tracker, sure, but I don't think a lot of people go to SuprNova for their legit torrents.

    Sites who do legit torrents usually have their own trackers, since setting up a tracker isn't a very large effort if you already have a site of your own and easily worth the control and overview it gets you. And on the other hand, individuals who do not have a site to spread torrents with rarely do legit torrents.

    Of course this is all backed up by no evidence at all. :)

    While I'm at it, there are several numbers that would be interesting to look at: The relative usage of the various P2P protocols - this is what TFA talks about. This is something you can probably determine fairly well by only looking at the port ranges involved. The percentage of legal traffic compared to the illegal traffic - ie what we've just been talking about. This is extremely difficult and most likely impossible to find out at the backbone level.
    What I'm interested in is the percentage of the total bandwidth P2P makes up these days. Imagine if something like a third of the total ISP bandwidth is consumed by P2P file sharing - then consider that nearly all of it is illegal. At that point the currently practiced stance on copyright violation is just shown to be absurd: either DO something against it, enforce the laws you already have instead of inventing moronic new ones, or come to terms with a reality that probably won't go away any time soon.

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  9. Re:Direct Connect? by phaxkolumbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Now, this is just my view (which, surprisingly, might not have any basis on reality...), but i've observed that DC tends to be more "regional" and "communal" for a couple of reasons...

    DC hubs don't scale well (at least the software that i know of), 1000-1500 users per hub seems to be the maximum, therefore hubs tend to be more private, usually, and anyone can start a hub. Plus most of the hubs i frequent have some restrictions on user population (for example, amount and types of files shared)

    There's a couple of DC hubs in my local area that allow only local people to connect and people look for stuff there first, and then resort to other methods (bittorrent, ftp, kazaa etc.). The ISP knows of the existence of these hubs, but seems to look away, since it keeps the traffic to the outside world down. The pattern seems to pop up on many campus LANs as well. And yes, there's legal stuff in there as well (*gasp!*), a quick search shows the ISOs for all the major linux distros.

    Maybe that's why... anyone can get to kazaa or use bittorrent, but dc hubs seem to be more restricted

  10. Re:How can they accurately measure it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    All of that is great Dave, but Bearshare has spyware in it and it doesn't seem to stay up for me for more than a few days at a time. Why do you expend so much effort only to wrap it in such a crap program?