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Bobby Fischer Found
paulydavis writes "Former world chess champion Bobby Fischer, wanted since 1992 for playing a tournament in Yugoslavia despite U.N. sanctions, was detained in Japan for an apparent passport violation and will be deported to the United States."
Bobby Fischer certainly made the US look much better than usual in that regard, but he has the view that he single-handedly changed the view of the United States from a baseball and football (US) country to one of intellectuals...
Well I had never heard of him before this. Chess requires an enormous amount of stragegy and intellect but the fact that one's a good chess player doesn't put him in the same class as others like Richard Feinman.
Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
> Well I had never heard of him before this.
I suspect that people with no interest in Chess would not have heard of him, but that does not mean he was not a good Chess player in his day.
> Chess requires an enormous amount of stragegy and intellect
Indeed, but Go requires more.
Swedish, but resident in the UK since 1996.
He was not merely playing chess. He was providing a significant boost in the economy of a nation which the US then had sanctions against.
You should at least try to understand the climate and issues at the time before offhandedly trying to make it sound as simple as a freindly game.
Even today if someone did the same thing in Cuba they would be subject to the same penalties.
-Adam
Until you fully understand what sanctions are, what they are meant to achieve, and just how fully bobby broke them, then you can't possibly simplify this arrest into "Don't arrest him because he's insane." That doesn't even enter into the argument, although it is information being used to publicly disgrace him and make this action somewhat more palatable to the public rather than explaining what exactly he did wrong in each newspaper article.
He has done something substantially criminal, and before he did so he fully understood the consequences. He's not stupid.
-Adam
I think you meant Feynman
Given that they don't know much about him they probably meant "Fanny-man" (perhaps a reference to the goatse guy). Go back and re-read the post with "Fanny-man" and see if it works....
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As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.
Nah, you can identify French people by the smell.
He wasn't charged "for simply playing chess." He violated a sanction and knew the consequences.
Zionist, by the way, has a very specific meaning - not all Jews are Zionists, in fact most Jews are not ardent Zionists in the sense that some people intend. Many Jews would say the the Jews have a right to a homeland based on our experience as an ethnoreligious group in the 20th century, but this is not "Zionist" in the negative sense that has become bandied about by a bunch of light-in-the-shoes European-style liberals who go about slandering Jews on message boards all over the net, because they believe that the Palestinians are the oppressed underdogs, and that sympathizing with the "underdog" always makes you right. In short, when you say Zionism, what you mean is radical, militaristic Zionism, people who support continued occupation of Palestinian lands and so on. This is a very small minority of Jews, just like a survey in the New York Times today showed a large majority of Palestinians (83%) in Gaza want both sides to declare peace and stop fighting (unfortunately, this excellent article points out that the Israeli military keeps coming back into Gaza primarily because Hamas keeps launching rockets at Israeli). I'm pretty sure the number supporting a peaceful two-state solution is at least that high on the Israeli side based on other poles I've seen.
So please stop lecturing us about falling into linguistic traps. The word "anti-Semitic" does not dehumanize Arabs. It's just that it's use in another sense has pre-existed common feelings of racism against Arabs that have come about from the modern phenomenon of Muslim extremism. We can still use other words, like "anti-Muslim" or "anti-Arab" depending on what exactly we mean, and everybody will understand us just fine.
Cheers,
Alex
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
As far as sports are concerned, several studies that I've read... (excessive tripe deleted)
That is just about the stupidest thing I think I've ever read on Slashdot. Congratulations!!!
Seriously, people spend money on things that provide value to them, your assumptions about their motives notwithstanding. People buy tickets to games, buy sponsored products, etc. to fund sporting events because they enjoy them. You may think that holds no value, but billions of other people around the world think it does. That's why they are called "personal" preferences.
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You need to work on your reading comprehension skills. No one said that entertainment was bad. I said that it didn't contribute to society. Worse, you're attacking me for sharing the results of some studies. That's pethetic. If you're looking for the stupidest thing on slashdot, reread your own post.
Shesh. I'm guessing the studies hit pretty close to home, to get this sort of reaction. I'm sorry you had a bad relationship with your father, but don't take it out on me.
If you get all your news from Fox News (and /.), you won't read anything else.
Read the new book from the CIA guy about how Osama is being over-simplified for propaganda purposes. All this "they hate our freedom" crap is just that.
Of course, I would never argue that any religious movement is in favor of freedom - that would be a contradiction in terms. But the primary complaints the Muslim world has against the US is directly related to specific US policy and actions. (And if they also don't like Christians and Jews, the Christians and Jews - specifically Zionists - have historically given good reasons for that dislike.)
Besides which, terrorism against the state is always justified - and Israel, the United States and the new government of Iraq are states. As long as the terrorists kill members of the state and not ordinary people - as the original definition of terrorism from the "People's Will" documents in Russia defined it- I got no problem with it.
Of course, dropping the World Trade Center was an incorrect action - since a lot of uninvolved civilians got killed. Since we don't know who initially suggested it, and we don't know who specifically carried it out - with assistance from who knows who - it would not be correct to directly blame it on Osama or "Al Qaeda" (whatever that hyped-up phrase means) - who has never claimed credit for it (I'm not sure if he ever said he approved of it, but I assume he probably did).
Since it was a bunch of Israelis who were arrested filming the collapse of the towers and high-fiving each other and laughing while they did it, I would say that some other groups need to explain their motivations vis-a-vis "Muslim terrorism" as well.
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You ever read the "Northwoods documents"?
Google for it.
See how far the US will go to lie about "terrorist incidents".
You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
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Reread my post. You're not quoting me! You're quoting the person that flamed me! That's my point. I told him to refer back to his own post! I didn't flame, I defended my position.