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Why Offshore When Canada's Next Door?
Roblimo writes "A study by accounting and consulting giant PriceWaterhouseCoopers claims Canada could lose up to 75,000 IT jobs by 2010 to offshore outsourcing, but could also *gain* 165,000 jobs through U.S. outsourcing contracts. The trick is, according to this story at IT Manager's Journal, that while Indian, Chinese, and Russian programmers may cost 80% less than U.S. programmers, the time zone, language, legal, and other problems involved with sending work half way around the world can eat up much of the labor savings, while Canadian programmers are nearby, speak English with nearly American accents, have a similar culture and legal system, and get paid 40% less than U.S. programmers. Might be time to think about moving North, eh?"
Okay, type su, eh?
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paid 40% and taxed 50%!
I live in Denver and will work for 40% less than average. And I don't say "eh?" all the time.
-Peter
So, you're incapable of using the tech support mantra:
"Well, it works on my end!"
If my answers frighten you, stop asking scary questions.
Although our legal system is "similar", we lack equivalents to silly little things like the DMCA and the Patriot Act.
On the other hand, we're responsible for Celine Dion. On behalf of all Canadians, I apologize profusely.
It seems that the whole "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" has been outsourced to Canada. While we fight our war on drugs, Canada has sane drug laws. While we meddle in the affairs of every nation on Earth, Canada just keeps on making beer.
Beer == Good.
So, bring it on. Outsource me to Canada. I'll move there, what with their reasonable immigration policies, and shack up with a burly lumberjack babe and start my life anew.
Please bid on this Karmann Ghia! Please pleas
<obligatory British joke> ;)
So they pronouce English slightly better then?
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A, ay!, B, ay!, C, ay!, D, ay! . . .
While it's true that the accents are "nearly the same," there are *some* diffs that will creep in.
BTW, even the McDonald's in Ottawa would offer gravy on their fries. Gravy on McDONALD'S FRIES??? What is this heresy?
Tim
It's aboot time people recognized this. Ootsourcing is better done in Canada. At least you can understand what people are talking aboot.
I'm not sure that we can trust the Canadians yet. I'm still recovering from Brian Adams.
Cause everyone wants a free Xbox360
... You guys have no limit for your evil. Can I move to Canada?
Before any of you go packing your bags for Canada, just stop and think:
sure, you'll have a job; and sure you'll be working out of your own apartment instead of driving 2.5 hours to a cubicle somewhere; and sure you'll probably earn more on the whole than any of your other Canadian friends...
But really, half your income goes to the government, and what you're left with doesn't go as far, cause an iPod costs six hundred bloody dollars here, and... and... you have to say "bloody" in casual conversation... and "eh", sometimes, too... and...
Please don't come here! I can't take any more competition!
The world's only surviving livewriter.
Brain Suck?
We can really blame canada.
Yes we can - we don't use MSN.
Schrodinger's cat is either dead or really pissed off...
You don't have as many murders. Life just isn't as much fun if you know you're going to get home safely ...
codegolf.com - smaller *is* better.
You bin to Canada recently?
I tried to bin Canada last week, but it was way too big, and the garbage collectors wouldn't take it.
codegolf.com - smaller *is* better.
So, when a Canadian programmer using Hungarian notation declares a char array variable called, say, "Buffer", how's it declared?
sZedBuffer
???
Especially snow. Better beer, but way lots more snow. The summers are nice there but winter comes with way lots more snow. Did I mention the snow ? If you like lots of snow most of the year then Canada is a really nice place to live. Not too crowded, laid back, good beer, but lots of snow. Somewhere I came across a statistic about how something like 80 or 90 percent of Canadians live with in 60 or 80 miles of it's southern border: something about even lots more snow further north. I figure with global warming Canada will be a really nice place to live year round in about 200 years.
>At least we can find ourselves on a map! :)
You know, I grew up 30 mins. from Detroit, so all of our television stations (at least the ones with interesting kids shows) - and there was no Canadian Sesame Street then either - were American. Whenever the magical tv box showed a map of "my country", it was one of the US, even though I knew I lived in Canada. It was grade 1 or 2 and the teacher pointed to a map of Canada and I said "Thats not Canada! THATS Canada" [pointing to the US]
No, reelly I don't!
Why not outsource to me in West Virginia...? Probably afraid of the language barrier. :)
"The bigger the lie, the more they believe." - Det. Bunk
"3)Living in NYC has it's own advantages. Here, I can go Tango Dancing every day of the week, see the best museums, never have to drive the death machine we call an automobile, can go out drinking without worrying about how I am getting home, can see world class plays, theater, etc. etc. etc. Living in Canada would be a marked decrease in my Life Style. It might be OK for people that don;t care about this kind of stuff, but not for me."
Wow, what's Tango Dancing? Museums? What the hell are plays?
This NYC place seems pretty darned fancy-looking! I should save up my 40% weaker Canadian dollars, sell my moose lodge, canoe down there, and experience what can only conceivably be a DREAM CITY IN THE **KING CLOUDS, YOU SELF-INFATUATED NY MORON.
You think freaking Tango lessons set NYC apart from the world? If *that's* your basis for judgement, you'd do us all a favour and stay put, friend.
This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. This was terrible with raisins in it. - Dorothy Parker
What a nonsense! These are the same Indian, Chinese and Russian programmers. The only difference is that they live in Canada and cost more.
Get off my lawn.
Celine Dion is our weapon of mass destruction!
Heck, if we ever attack a country, she's on the front line singing her heart out. After one of her Monster Ballots, we just walk in with our hockey sticks and Zambonies and clean up the enemies. We don't need fancy things like short range tactical missles, or ugh.. tanks, guns, ammunition.
Actually, on a serious note, I like it that we don't spend anything on military. In the simpson's they used the joke (excuse me if I get this wrong):
Scorpio: "What country do you like the least, Italy or France"
Homer: "France"
Scorpio: "No one ever says Italy"
Then Scorpio blows up France. Well I like it that to the rest of the world Canada = Italy. The U.S. = France.
I can just imagine terrorist meeting... "Guys what country do you like the least? Canada or the US?"
-asoap
Treat me like a marketing stat, and I'll treat your movie like a series of ones and zeros
No jobs here, just SARS, please stay out of Canada... Plus it's really cold, year round, and we don't have electricity in many parts of the country... Yeah... No opportunity here, move along.
25 caliber--that's not dangerous, you pansey!
Consider that a chocolate bar or a can of Coke costs $1cdn here and when across the border the same candy or Coke costs $1usd, that alone accounts for the cost of living savings.
You must be a sugar fanatic.
Seriously.
Life is the leading cause of death in America.
I hear the hockey is better in Canada than in Indian, too, eh?
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Nope, nope. We're all full up here in Canada. Yes, please go away.
You won't like it here. It's cold, yeah.... It's 25 C here in Vancouver. Brrrr.
Yes, that's right. Our healthcare system sucks. That's right. Please go away. *cough*, *cough*. Just ignore the international reports saying we has slightly better life expectancies.
Try Mexico or, maybe, India...?
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Okay, let's qualify it: Canada is vastly superior to the shit-hole known as "India". Is that clear enough for you?
Max
My god carries a hammer. Your god died nailed to a tree. Any questions?
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