Why Offshore When Canada's Next Door?

Roblimo writes "A study by accounting and consulting giant PriceWaterhouseCoopers claims Canada could lose up to 75,000 IT jobs by 2010 to offshore outsourcing, but could also *gain* 165,000 jobs through U.S. outsourcing contracts. The trick is, according to this story at IT Manager's Journal, that while Indian, Chinese, and Russian programmers may cost 80% less than U.S. programmers, the time zone, language, legal, and other problems involved with sending work half way around the world can eat up much of the labor savings, while Canadian programmers are nearby, speak English with nearly American accents, have a similar culture and legal system, and get paid 40% less than U.S. programmers. Might be time to think about moving North, eh?"

Comments

Because Canada is fucking freezing

[DrPizza]

And India has spicy food. I know which one I prefer.

Re:French-Canadians?

[French guy]

I live in Montreal, Quebec. Half the population in Montreal speaks English as well as any other Canadian. We have a call center here in Montreal. We answer in five languages. English, French, Chinese, Japanese and Arab. The same call center located in Toronto answers in English only. Agents in Toronto even get a salary bonus if they can answer in something else. Beleive me, English speaking people have a hard time learning any other language. That's because English is a pretty simple language. As soon as a little complexity is invloved, they generally abandon saying how useless it is to speak anything besides English. Three major cities are affected by offshoring in Canada: Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. Don't worry, our French accent is nothing compared to France! The fact that Quebec is next to America gives us the ability to speak English better than French people in France.

Don't forget...

[Mashiki]

The taxes on the taxes, the manufacturing taxes, the pre-production taxes, the impact taxes. The billing taxes, leverence taxes, equalization taxes, recoup taxes, connection taxes, 'privitization' taxes, property taxes, school taxes(sometimes not counted in your property). Then we can get into the hidden taxes that we know, consumer, non-consumer, 'fresh stock', non-fresh stock, refiners fees, and on and so forth.

I'm probably forgetting six or seven dozen others as well.

I figured mine to being around 58% on $72,658/yr, that means my take home after taxes was around $30k. The average income of my area is around $60,000(meaning I live in Oshawa, London, Oxford) People who live here at $60k, are living OK. In truth...that's it. 60k or even 70k is enough to get by with a family of 4. The biggest thing I see now, is incomes all over Ontario climbing above for a family over 100K that's not 'high living' thats one person supporting the family, one person to supply excess 'slush' funds in most cases.

Oh by whatever god you want...Canada Loves it's taxes. How else do we pay for blowing billions on useless programs? And throwing money away on 'legacy' and 'unity' projects.

I Have News For You

[Master of Transhuman]

The last time I "moved North" to do a contract job in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, some assholes slashed all four tires on my car because it had US plates on it.

They do NOT want Americans in Canada.

Besides, who wants to always be looking at the side of the soup can in the supermarket that's in French (courtesy of the Quebecois)?