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Microsoft Announces Dividend and Stock Buyback Program

neile writes "Microsoft just announced some of their plans for their large cash reserves. This includes moving to quarterly dividend payments of $0.08 a share (up from $0.16 annually), and a special one-time dividend of $3.00 a share in December. The Board of Directors also approved a four-year, $30 billion, stock buyback plan."

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  1. Outstanding by PhreakinPenguin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I knew I bought their stock for a reason. I know I will get modded down for this or flamed but you'll never see a company like Redhat do this. Regardless of your opinion of MS, this is a good move to reward stockholders.

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    1. Re:Outstanding by pilgrim23 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I used to have Microsoft stock, but one day I opened my portfolio and all the certificates had turned blue with incomprehensible writing on them. When I called my broker he assured me everything was all right, it was all a part of doing business and that I should put the stocks back in my old shoe where I stored them. So...I rebooted...

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    2. Re:Outstanding by tux_deamon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The defining purpose of a public corporation isn't to maximize profit by any means necessary. We live in a society of laws and regulation. So no, not all corporations necessarily engage in unethitcal activity in pursuit of profit.

    3. Re:Outstanding by scowling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is to do so by any legal means necessary, because failure to do so could set up the CEO and the Board as the defendants in a civil suit by the shareholders.

      One can be unethical and still remain within the law; my point stands.

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    4. Re:Outstanding by hazem · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because the defining purpose of any public corporation is to maximize profit for the shareholders, then by definition all public corporations behave unethically.

      It's actually to maximize value rather than profit.

      A company can sell all of its assets and fire all its employees and they'll show great profits for that quarter. Unfortunatley they did not maintain the value of the company.

      Acting unethically has an impact on the value of a company, but only as much as the society and pool of potential investors estimate that value. A company can only act as unethically as the society will allow.

    5. Re:Outstanding by tux_deamon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, most tech companies don't pay dividends, rather they reinvest their profits (would they ever see them) into R&D. Most tech shareholders bank on the speculation that the share value will increase as the company grows very quickly.

      Paying a dividend is usally something only mature companies do when growth slows down. Microsoft is one of the few tech companies that pays a large dividend.

    6. Re:Outstanding by Nakito · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pre-announcing a major ($3) dividend to be paid many months from now seems kind of funky. This will be immediately priced into the share value, of course -- every share is immediately worth that much more since everyone knows the distribution is coming. It's analogous to the "ex dividend" period of that occurs when a distribution is pending, except that the amount is huge and it's much longer in the future (almost half a year!). On top of that, a major buyback plan means that there will be sustained buying pressure on the stock.

      So call me cynical, but this is the first thought that came into my head: These events will cause all of the executives to hit the strike price on their stock options.

    7. Re:Outstanding by tux_deamon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, there are mutual funds dedicated to investing in socially conscious/socially responsible corporations. Your bank/investment advisor can probably give you some more information.

      But here's a directory worth looking at

      Interestingly, one of the pioneers of the movement is US VP Candidate Peter Camejo.

      The general idea is to invest in companies with good track records in the areas of human rights, labor, business ethics, the environment, etc.

    8. Re:Outstanding by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Informative
      I'm no fan of Microsoft, but the CNN article said that Bill will be donating his one-off special dividend (about $4.5 billion) to the Bill Gates foundation.

  2. hopes dashed by kippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Crap, I was hoping for a Mars mission.

  3. seven businesses? by hostyle · · Score: 4, Funny

    "... and all seven of our businesses are growing," said Steve Ballmer

    Seven businesses? Can anyone enlighten me on this? OS, Software, Xbox, MSN, selling hotmail addresses to spammers?

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    1. Re:seven businesses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sure thing:

      1 - Windows Client, including the Microsoft® Windows® XP desktop operating system, Windows 2000, and Windows Embedded operating system.
      2 - Information Worker, including Microsoft Office, Microsoft Publisher, Microsoft Visio®, Microsoft Project, and other stand-alone desktop applications.
      3 - Microsoft Business Solutions, encompassing Great Plains and Navision business process applications, and bCentral(TM) business services.
      4 - Server and Tools, including the Microsoft Windows Server System(TM) integrated server software, software developer tools, and MSDN®.
      5 - Mobile and Embedded Devices, featuring mobile devices including the Windows Powered Pocket PC, the Mobile Explorer microbrowser, and the Windows Powered Smartphone software platform.
      6 - MSN, including the MSN® network, MSN Internet Access, MSNTV, MSN Hotmail® and other Web-based services.
      7 - Home and Entertainment, including Microsoft Xbox®, consumer hardware and software, online games, and our TV platform.

      It's how the corporation is structured from a business perspective. http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/articles/business. asp

  4. The Linux caveat..... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pay attention to the Forward Looking Statement..

    "the availability of competitive products or services such as the Linux operating system at prices below our prices or for no charge; "

  5. Got to be a catch in their someplace by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh yeah- the catch is Bill Gates Sr. He's always taught his son that vast accumulation of wealth was bad for the economy overall. The one redeeming factor of the Gates family has always been small estates (for the socioeconomic class they're in anyway- MY parents can't afford to give me a $100,000 loan to drop out of college and start a business). Maybe Bill Gates Jr. finally convinced his board what his father always taught him.

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    1. Re:Got to be a catch in their someplace by blackmonday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      His dad's a real interesting guy. He's a big supporter of inheritance taxes. if I remember correctly, he believes society got you where you are, so you need to give back when you go away.

  6. Quarterly dividends better than Cisco by GPLDAN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These are the actions of a company that realizes they are no longer a growth stock and is no longer looking to finance things via the market but rather reward consistent investors and enter into a "slow, continuous growth" mode instead of acting like a start-up. Investors will like quarterly dividends and the buyback will shore up the flagging stock price.

    Now, if only Cisco would buyback their stock (way too many shares floating), start expensing their options like a proper company and start paying some dividends, maybe they could be considered a grown-up stock as well.

  7. No doubt about it by tux_deamon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft is great at one thing; making money. Unfortunately, being good at making money doesn't necessarily mean they have to be good at making software (at least considering how they've gone about it).

    1. Re:No doubt about it by tux_deamon · · Score: 5, Informative

      I guess you missed the Microsoft Antitrust Trial that was in all the papers the last few years?

  8. Won't affect current reserves. by BigGar' · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was thinking that I'd read that Microsoft was cleaning about 1 billion per month. If that's accurate and continues the stock buy back would not affect cuurent cash reserves only slow the rate it builds. That would result in a reserve growth of 18 billion over the next 4 years instead of 48 billion, while at the same time reducing the number of publicly held shares which will probably up the stock price.

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  9. in effect, it's canceled by davidwr · · Score: 3, Informative

    It has the same effect as if the stock was bought back then the shares canceled. If I own 25% of MSFT, and MSFT buys back half of its outstanding stock from other people, I now own 50% of MSFT. I say "in effect" it's canceled because depending on where MSFT is incorporated, it may "hold" this stock as "treasury stock" so it can resell it later without "issuing" new stock. If it does not hold treasury stock, the stock is "canceled" and will have to be re-issued if MSFT wants to "sell" it.

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  10. Re:Who owns the bought-back stock. by nzgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no feedback loop. They buy back your shares, you no longer own them, so yes MSFT owns another 0.0001% of itself.

    Yes, a company could theoretically own itself. Much like a million and one Mom-and-Pop corner stores own themselves.

    The sharemarket exists as a way to distribute risk. A long time ago (in a galaxy fa...) MSFT said: "Hey we have this great idea to make software to sell to computer users, and we need money to do it. Rather than take out a bank loan, how about you guys (Mr and Mrs Mutual Fund Owner) shoulder some of the risk? If it works out, we'll both make lots of money!"

    If MSFT happens to make so much money that they can afford to buy the risk back from Mr and Mrs Shareholder, then more power to them. This is not the way it happens in reality though, because the risk always exists, and if MSFT happens to go down the toilet, they don't want to shoulder the entire burden. Better that Mom & Pop Shareholder take some of the pain too.

    Strange isn't it that most Fund Managers and Brokers never ever mention the 'Risk' part of the equation eh? They always talk about 'equity' and 'investment'.

    I'll say it again: the sharemarket is simply a way of distributing business risk. If you can't take the risk, invest in fixed income. Not as sexy and not as much possible upside, but not as much risk.

  11. 401ks and mutual funds by Thumpnugget · · Score: 5, Insightful

    seriously how many /.actually have MS stock.

    There is a very good chance that anyone with mutual fund investments in growth funds that deal in mid-to-large-cap stocks will own a bit of Microsoft. Since I'm guessing there are quite a few people who are gainfully employed reading Slashdot that are probably younger, probably have a 401k, and probably are choosing longer-term investment options to grow their money, I would bet a significant percentage of (the gainfully employed) Slashdotters own a chunk of Microsoft, whether they realize it or not.

    I can't give you exact figures, but I know that I indirectly own a little chunk of Microsoft and I'm guessing a lot of other people here do too.

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  12. Why not.... by carlos_benj · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, why don't they pay out that promised money for forwarding all those emails to Bill could test that email tracking software? I mean, I musta sent that thing to several hundred people expecting to reap big cash rewards and I haven't even seen a dime!

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  13. Re:First Flame by AT · · Score: 4, Informative

    Huh? Most public companies take their profits and reinvest them in the company. This may or may not help the company grow and reward investors by making the company more valuable. Some companies pay out dividends (i.e. pay out profits to investors), usually because the company is not easily able to expand so growth is not an option. This is commonly seen in large companies in mature fields; think heavy industry, mining, railways, etc..

    Redhat most definately does not give their profits to their investors; they are focused, like most tech companies, on growth, so they reinvest it in the company.

  14. Re:Well, good. by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Insightful
    > But on the other hand, it wouldn't make sense for them to blow all of their reserves on dividends and buybacks.

    If, however, you're not sure whether President Bush will continue to tax long-term capital gains and qualified dividends at 15%, or President Kerry will demand that Congress undo the tax cuts, resulting in marginal tax rates on long-term capital gains of 20%, and all dividents at up to 39%, blowing some of those reserves on one-time dividends and buybacks over the next 12 months is a pretty good idea.

    Google for "special dividends", and you'll see that a lot of companies are doing this sort of thing (one-time "special" dividends of 5-10%, rather than merely raising their dividend by a few cents per share indefinitely) these days. You'll also notice that the trend started in the past six months -- right about the time people realized that the election is shaping up to be a statistical dead heat.

  15. The question is, who owns the company? by Engineer-Poet · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A long time ago (in a galaxy fa...) MSFT said: "Hey we have this great idea to make software to sell to computer users, and we need money to do it. Rather than take out a bank loan, how about you guys (Mr and Mrs Mutual Fund Owner) shoulder some of the risk?
    The partnership model (essentially, a corporation without the legal features of limited liability and tradable shares) has a far longer history than banks.
    Yes, a company could theoretically own itself. Much like a million and one Mom-and-Pop corner stores own themselves.
    No they don't. Every one of those stores is owned by people. A corporation can own shares in other corporations, but there are limits to the depth you can nest "holding companies"; ultimately the ownership devolves to individuals, trusts (under the control of individuals), and the like.

    If MSFT buys back shares, then some people who once had shares have cash instead and the remaining people own a bigger fraction of the company. It's like some of the owners of a partnership allowing another partner to cash out, paying her off from the assets of the business.

  16. Good news by ektor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is great news for Microsoft. It means it's going to keep focused on its current businesses and not do any big crazy move like buying SAP, Disney, Sun or something stupid like that.

    Most boards with that much money at their disposal would be tempted to get themselves on the headlines but the Microsoft leadership has always been sensible.

  17. I'm not an economist but... by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This seems like just a way to make the stock price rise. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but:

    1. Give away a big one time dividend (stock is immeidately worth that much more/share).

    2. Buy back your shares, increasing demand for them, thus increasing the value.

    3. Buy back your shares, creating less total shares (since I'd assume the shares would no longer be outstading shares and not traded), thus increasing the value of each share.

    It's interesting, but kinda weird. As another poster said, they couldn't figure out what else to do with the big pile of money they had sitting around.

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    1. Re:I'm not an economist but... by mdfst13 · · Score: 3, Informative

      1. No, it doesn't make the stock worth more, as it doesn't increase the assets or income of the company. In fact, once they pay the dividend, it makes the stock worth less (the company's assets are reduced).

      2 & 3. No, a buy back cancels itself out. It reduces the assets of the company (cutting the stock price) while decreasing the number of shares of stock (increasing the stock price). The two effects exactly cancel each other.

      The only way that either increases the stock price is by removing the risk that the company will go bankrupt and lose all that money. Once it is distributed, the company can no longer spend the money. As such, any increase in the stock price is saying that Microsoft is likely to become a money losing proposition. As a result, the stock should drop less than $3 per share, but it should still drop.

  18. Re:First Flame by michael_cain · · Score: 4, Informative
    Most public companies take their profits and reinvest them in the company.

    Historically, MOST large companies (eg, those in the S&P 500) regardless of industry pay a dividend on the order of 4% per year. Earlier in the 20th century, dividends averaged as high as 6-7%. Recently the average has dropped to 2-3%, which is a historical low. The tech companies that have gotten so big so fast in the last 20 years and still pay a tiny dividend are an exception, not the rule. Those companies have now reached a scale where it is unrealistic to expect them to be high-growth businesses (on a percentage basis), and are struggling to adjust to the fact that they are now "mature" firms.

    Microsoft seems to be making the adjustment somewhat more quickly than the other new tech giants. Realizing that rapid share price appreciation was probably gone for good, they quit issuing options to the employees and now give limited stock grants. Realizing that they have pissed off a lot of shareholders by accumulating $60B in cash that they can't seem to use, they are issuing the one-time special dividend and increasing their annual dividend (although it will still be on the order of only 1%). I suspect that the stock buy-back is aimed more at trying to increase the share price for those thousands of disgruntled employees holding worthless options than anything else -- buying shares is no better "investment" than using the money internally, something they don't seem to be able to do, but it does have financial effects.