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Apple, Motorola Plan An iTunes-Friendly Phone

PabloJones writes "Apple and Motorola have come together to create a new mp3-enabled cell phone, according to this Reuters article. It says that the device will be capable of storing about 12 songs, and will be fully integrated with iTunes. Perhaps this is a beginning of a new relationship between the two companies, after the PowerPC problems between the two in recent years."

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  1. Re:Uh, woo? by bedouin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple has nothing to lose from this, but a great deal to gain. There's people out there who don't know, or think they want an mp3 player -- this will get them hooked not only on the idea, but on Apple's intuitive interface. When it comes time to upgrade to something that can hold more than 12 songs, chances are they'll consider something iTunes compatible (i.e. an iPod).

    And even if it means no iPod sales, it still gives Apple stronger brand recognition.

  2. Re:I'll Wait ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will we see a return to rotary dialing of phone numbers with an iPod-like scroll wheel interface?

  3. Re:Looks like Apple learned a lesson... by speleo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, too bad that Firewire thing never amounted to anything...

  4. Re:But iTunes is not mp3 ? by wbd · · Score: 5, Informative

    The iTunes MUSIC STORE uses AAC encoded music (an open standard) with Apple's proprietary FairPlay DRM.

    The iTunes APPLICATION, which is usuable with our without the iTunes Music Store, supports MP3, AAC, AAC+Fairplay, WAV, Audible audiobooks, Apple Lossless Compression (ALC), possibly more I can't remember. It can rip to MP3, AAC, or ALC.

  5. Re:12 songs? does it play pong also? by Graff · · Score: 5, Informative
    12 songs? like an... album? what do they got in their, a hamster? it can't possibly be that hard to find somewhere to stuff a couple more MP3s in a cell phone. why so stingy?

    The poster of the story got it a bit wrong. It's not a dozen songs, it is dozenS of songs. So think more like a couple of albums worth, not one album worth of songs.

    Remember that most songs will probably be full 128 kbit iTunes Music Store AAC files. Judging from the songs I've bought from the iTMS each song will take up around 3.5 MB so a dozen will take 42 MB. That adds up pretty quick. You could fit about 36 songs onto a 128 MB flash card, which sounds reasonable for a flash-based cell phone/MP3 player.
  6. if only motorola make a phone that meets my needs by aardwolf204 · · Score: 5, Funny

    MP3 player with iTunes support

    Browser that supports WAP, HTML, Frames, Flash, Shockwave, Tabbed Browsing, and thumb-guestures

    8 MegaPixel camera with 6x optical zoom that takes SLR lenses

    Calander and contacts that syncs with microsoft exchange

    2.2" display with 65K colors and 480x640 resolution

    802.11g and bluetooth (that works) with kismet

    12 cell LiIon battery with 14 day standby and 6 hour talk time

    media player capable of playing MOV, MPG2,4, AVI (divx and xvid), RM, DVD,

    HDTV that syncs with your tivo, direct-tv, XP-MCE, or mythPC (sorry MyHTPC and freevo, not enough room in ROM)

    Direct TV connection with 400 channels

    Cheap custom ringtones that dont suck (no more paying 99 cents for a 50 cent ringtone)

    Vibrate, Pulsate, Ultra-Vibrate, and Orgasmobrate (for her pleasure)

    authentic TOS trek sound for when the clam shell flips open

    Walkie-Talkie function that be used without speakphone

    SDIO card for memory expansion

    4G 1MB/s internet connection

    RSS feeds on your "desktop"

    9 button thats not pre-programmed to 911

    full QWERTY thumbboard with touchpad

    VNC, TightVNC, and Terminal Services

    Vi, Emacs, Notepad, and that thing macs use

    Powerpoint support with included VGA dongle for presentations

    SMS, MMS, EMS, and PMS

    synchronization support for pop3, imap4, and active-sync

    drivers for linux (source included)

    dual boot mode with windows CE and linux (2.7)

    included sample cowboy neal ringtones

    j2me, perl, and C# support

    graphing calculator

    Included USB cable makes phone act as USB flash drive on any PC (w2k+)

    GPS with included geocaches

    ability to turn reciever into promiscuious mode with ethercap

    SSH (1,2) and Telnet clients that work!

    1GHz Transmeta processor

    Via Eden 600 MHz backup processor

    dual blue cold cathodes with case window

    Support for CD-R / RW, DVD-R-RW+R+RW-RAM, MMC, SD, CF, PCMCIA, and 5.25" (double density)

    Did I miss anything...

    Oh yeah, Phone. Maybe next revision, until then you can hook it up to your vonage box.

    Ok, so I was only joking on a few of those things, but seriously some of these features need to be considered. I want an open platform phone that allows me to put RSS feeds on my "desktop" and can SSH and VNC into boxen (sp?)

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  7. Re:Uh, woo? by mewphobia · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Apple should do the next step 100% with their iPod. No half PDA or half cellphone combos. Full working PDA/"Son of Newton" and a full blown iPod with a cellphone.

    Apple isn't a stupid company. The PDA/cell phone market is already saturated. They would just be adding another competitor to an already saturated market. Creating a new cell phone isn't cheap. Apple doesn't like doing things in halves and the R&D cost for a new mobile phone would be huge.

    This decision is effectively getting more clients for their music store for very little R&D cost. They are just leveraging their platform as THE solution for online/mobile music.

  8. Re:Uh, woo? by RedWizzard · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Not sure what they have to gain from this.
    Obviously sales via iTunes. Possibly increased iPod sales.
    Half an iPod with an interface which I'm not sure how its going to work with a cell phone, doesn't sound like a strong product.
    Yes it does. I don't have an iPod, I don't know that I want one and I'm not paying that sort of money to find out. But I'll probably upgrade my phone in the next year or so and an mp3 capable phone is something I'd be interested in (certainly more than the camera phones that sell so well). One album's worth of songs is a good start. If I find I want more I'll buy an iPod, then I'll have two devices that use iTunes, and I can have music without carting both phone and iPod around if I don't want to.
    And they have alot to lose. Its called watering down a brand-name.
    It won't be an Apple branded product, it'll just carry a version of iTunes. Nothing to lose, unless Apple are paying Motorola. You're not in marketing are you?
    So why would they buy it with a cell phone? Why not go for this nicer/cheaper/better cell phone?
    Because this is a phone+mp3 player, not just a phone. It's one less device to carry round. Cost is certainly an issue, but I'd be shocked if this phone cost more than a similar phone plus an iPod.
    Apple should do the next step 100% with their iPod. No half PDA or half cellphone combos. Full working PDA/"Son of Newton" and a full blown iPod with a cellphone.
    Not happening yet. Phones and PDAs have radically different screen size and input requirements. They've been tried and don't converge that well. Your combination device is going to be expensive and large and that'll put people off. It's also a much larger gamble for Apple.
  9. Re:Uh, woo? by bedouin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you were used to and familiar with another companies products, Apple's products would seem very strange and alien to you. They would not even be recognizable as a pattern at all, and certainly not an expected one.

    Dunno about that really. I wasn't a Mac user until 2002, but had OS X running to my likening within a few hours of taking the machine out of the box. I remember asking a friend a few questions, but 95% of it would be self-explanatory to anyone who's used a computer in the past 15 years.

    On the other hand, I can remember encountering huge hiccups just migrating from one Linux distribution to another, or even upgrading Windows. There is definitely such a thing as unintuitive design; I've encountered it numerous times.

    You will not have the knowledge of button placement encoded into your DNA

    No, but there are certain UI designs that are more sensible to known human tendencies than others; Apple's done a great deal of research on it, and I think it shows when my dad (whose new to mp3s and computers) can figure out how to use iTunes within a couple minutes without me standing over his shoulders.

    Please, there is no such "intuitive"

    Sure there is. It's doing things like putting the power switch to say -- a monitor on its front, not the back. It's taking into consideration what most people expect, as opposed to what's technically the easiest thing to implement (which, in some cases -- may be a power switch on the back). Just an example. There are plenty more.