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Sal Wise, Philly eBay Scammer Strikes Back!
Warlock7 followed up last week's bizarre story of eBay Fraud by noting "The news in Phlly ran with the story and put Sal's picture online with video. Now Sal has decided to direct all blame on his old business partner. He's put up his own site now trying to divert responsibilty away from himself and uses his kids pictures to try and garner support." It's hysterical to read the original log about how everything was his father's fault, but now get to learn about a more powerful evil named 'Vince'. It's like a soap opera that won't let me blink until the commercial.
need a good whack from a lead pipe to smack some sense into them.
Ohh well that web site has completely changed my feelings about 'ol Sal. [sarcasm] Maybe I'll send him $2500 for one of his Laptop auctions. . [/sarcasm]
This guy changes stories more often than I change underwear (I know, I'm opening myself up for obvious jokes here). Not too long ago, he was blaming it on his father.
This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Wut? Did the baby steal the money?
I'm so confused.
Who's behind the Sal Wise scam?
-- Is "Sig" copyrighted by www.sig.com?
It's not in italics.
(*grin*)
Why would he post pictures of himself on a random website? Something isn't right. OR maybe he's just REALLY stupid, which is definately a possibility. Either way, I think that the Slashdot club people are probably quick to judge him as a scammer. Once we've completely de-bunked his claims, then we can call him a scammer! I think that judgement based on one guy who set up a website with all these reports of scamming could be slightly biassed. Not to say that this man isn't a slimy scammer, just don't beleive everything you read, including this guy's site nor the other guy's site.
Why would he think anyone would beleive him? It's dicks like Sal that give dicks a bad name.
Awww... I wanted to explode - GIR
too much reasing necessary...
There is so much irony with that sentence that I cannot even begin to be sarcastic. This does not happen often.
-- I have fans? Wow.
While I'll admit stranger things have happened, I'd still have to hold Mr. Wise 100% responsible until he provides a reasonable explanation of why the people at the check cashing place who knew him well were able to identify, without question, that he was the one that cashed the cashier's check, along with his other various lies, such as the person in the hospital who, mysteriously, the hospital had no record of.
I'll give him points for effort, though. He didn't have to go out and make a web page defending himself, and I'm sure he'll draw a lot of sympathy for being such a family man! Maybe, if he gets a chance, he can also address some of the inconsistencies in his stories.
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I'm surprised he hasn't asked for Paypal donations yet.
Just by reading all the emails from the previous story and then reading this...you can tell it is the same person typing.
Honestly why have the police not taken care of this guy already?
======== In the future, everything will be artificial. ========
Seriously. Even if there were an even greater evil power behind poor Sal's crimes, does that totally absolve him of responsibility?
... twice ... But Vince made me do it! Can I have a cookie?.
Yeah, I ran over an old lady and her cat
Sheesh.
... turning to the 3-D map, we see an unmistakable con
I live in Philadelphia, and work downtown. I am posting AC to avoid being a karma whore and to avoid getting killed by this Sal guy. Last week or so after work I walked down to his address because its not too far from center city. Let me tell you that this guy lives in a crumby crumby neighborhood. And even worse, in a very crumby house. I didn't even think it was livable at first. Its a very small row home damn near falling apart. It has a basement window flush to the ground that is completely kicked in and just has a little fence in plastic fence in front of it. The whole house looks horrible, but in particular the front door is all screwed up. When I checked this place out there was a shitty car in front of the house (not a lexus, so I don't know who's lexus he got pictues of) and he lives across from a deli and about 2 blocks from a local hospital. The neighborhood is one of the worst in Philly. I didn't stay long and didnt dare take out my digital camera for obvious reasons. Anyway, the money that he's scammed people out of could probably pay his rent for over a year in the piece of junk that he lives in. Judging from his neighbors (I didn't actually see Sal, just his house) he is a low life and probably on welfare too. Everyone in that neighborhood seemed sleazy and the crime rate is either the highest in the city or in the top 3, or so associates have informed me. Anyway, I am certain that this guy is scum. And its getting out of control. Me and Justin have been in communication and I would like to think that I have helped him out and I intend to continue helping him out. Also everything me and Justin discussed, he fowarded on to the other victims so I'm trying my best to help out everyone involved. This Sal guy needs to get taken down.
-Me
Does 'Vince" truly exist?
/.ing so well?!?
Is the attrocious grammar, spelling, and sentence structure merely due to poor linguistic skills or is he trying to draw sympathy by protraying himself as a fairly unintelligent person that was taken advantage of?
If his name is Sam Wise (yeah like that sounds real) then why is his comcast page mich617?
But perhaps the most puzzling question of all,
How in the heck is his page standing up to a
I think there's more to this fellow than meets the eye...
I stole this Sig
Here's a link to a story on NBC10 (Philadelphia). Turns out that Vincent Massina is a South Philadelphia businessman who was defrauded of about $13,000 by Sal Wise.
Why am I not surprised that Sal has managed to twist this around?
It was made known it whatever car forum he hung out in that he died recently. I guess he got better...
Come to the University of Mars! Classes starting soon!
...is gonna be PISSED. This is the exact sort of thing they hate to see their clients do.
It was like when that Peterson guy was giving all those contradictory interviews. They are coming back to bite him in the ass now...
"...Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam..."
Although Sal apparently nearly successfully trick members of an on-line forum into believing he was dead and buried to raise "funds for his widow and children," he won't see a dime of it. Thanks to Justin Spence and Slashdotters, the people running the collection for the forum were notified in time before giving it to "Sal's grieving family" and are in the process of returning the money to the donaters.
So far we have the following episodes:
IV: A New Scammer
V: Philly eBay Scammer Strikes Back!
Let's hope that the next episode is:
VI: Return of the Money
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke
Neat trick, being able to tell a person's character from the look of their neighbors. Must come handy at times I'm sure.
Not everyone that lives in poor neighborhoods are crooks or on welfare!
The media and people's naiveness is to blame for this stereotype.
The majority of the poor are probably working 2 jobs and getting little assistants if any. It's just that the media has no incentive to show you a single mother working 2 jobs, the vocal minority that make it big rapping violent lyrics, dealing drugs, running ebay scams etc. get all the face time they can stomach.
Think about this the next time you judge someone by where they're from.
Based on upvotes, Ageism is the only "-ism" Slashdotters care about and think isn't SJW
People! People! Listen here!
All the speculation and uncertainty on whether Sal is a scammer/family man/ghost should have been a pretty blatant indication that this whole fiasco is simply part of the Halo 2 ARG, Haunted Apiary! I'd think such an "enlightened" group as the slashdot crowd would have caught on by now.
As for me, this whole "Sal Wise" component is the final piece of the puzzle. I've solved the riddle...
Have YOU?
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Is it me, or did it just get fatter in here?
Sal, is that you?!
Not Meta-modding due to apathy.
"but now get to learn about a more powerful evil named 'Vince'."
It all makes sense now! He was posessed by Vince Clortho, keymaster of Gozer!
Forgets cops, I want a new show called Scammers, Spammers, and Nigerian pimps!
Well, since he never refuted any of Justin's e-mails other than claiming he didn't write the earlier ones (establishing that they were indeed sent from his account), it certainly shows that somebody did indeed scam Justin. Given that there is no loss of credibility to Justin as of yet and the e-mails seem legit, this boils down to 2 likely possibilities which one can choose from:
1. The hospital misinformed Justin as to whether or not Sal was admitted AND the bank staff have misinformed Justin about Sal as well. In this case, it is quite possible this Vince character used Sal's computer and e-mail client. Oh and, Sal and Vince happen to have a matching writing style.
2. The bank staff is not confusing anyone with Sal and the hospital staff correctly informed Justin.
Is scenario #1 possible. Sure.
But, perhaps you ought to read all those e-mails again.
When he realizes he *is* Vince!
(cue flashback of "Vince" cashing yet another check).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley