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Gates Gets Government Guards for Gala

Nick Irelan writes "The home of the world's richest man was a 'temporary security zone' when he held a party for members of the National Governors Association. Bill's guests included Newt Gingrich, Tommy Thompson, and Leon Panetta. Gates also put in $150,000 for the governors' meeting held the next day. News.com covered this story very well." If your invitation to Gates' place got "lost in the mail", you can read about a Microsoft intern who got to have dinner with the big cheese.

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  1. Human after all? by NiceGuyUK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For all the Microsoft bashing that goes on (and I figure /. readers won't need to look far for examples), the note at the end of the MS intern's blog about Gates' daughter was a nice touch.

    As much as people love to hate Bill and his company, he is just one guy after all. We seldom here about this side of him (albeit for security reasons in relation to his kids?). Perhaps a Bill Gates book in the vein of Linus' "Just For Fun" is due?

    1. Re:Human after all? by agurkan · · Score: 1, Insightful

      With all due respect, he brought this onto himself. He is the founder and possibly one of the most influential persons of a convicted software monopoly. His company produces crap, sells it at a high price using illegal practices. Microsoft makes my life harder. Microsoft makes other people's lifes harder. They know his, he knows this and they continue what they are doing with no concern.
      He has been criticised more mildly when this all started. If you are aggressive and ambitious you risk hatred. If you live in a glass house ...
      Microsoft and by association Bill Gates deserves the bashing. They (ie. the top staff) are in this for money and seemingly everything else is less important. Yes, he is a human, but a harmful one. I prefer to judge a person with what distinguishes him from others. A lot of people have kids, but most are not as harmful as MS execs.

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    2. Re:Human after all? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder how much the intern was paid for that post.

      I think the invitation to the party would be payment enough.

  2. I've always seen him as a good man by poohsuntzu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gates that is. Remember, since he isn't CEO anymore the primary fsck-ups (SCO anyone?) are not something he agreed the company should have ever touched in the first place, when instead the new CEO said "yay! Lets GO DO THIS!".

    The journal of the intern is not the only one I've seen where people who meet and spend time with Gates end up with a surprisingly pleasent experience. Geek + Dad + Down to Earth. Of course, people here will continue to flame Gates as if he is CEO, continue to say what a greeding person he is and ignore the intern's journal, or say that the intern is a Microsoft employee.

    I hope people can eventually look beyond the company and see the man behind what started it. He's not half bad if you give him a chance.

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    1. Re:I've always seen him as a good man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We slashbots dont like him, anymore that is.

      Only a meager decade or so ago, we adored him, and Microsoft, because they screwed over the Worst Company in the World (tm), IBM.

      Of course, IBM is now exploitin^H^H^H using open source, which makes them the Greatest Company in the World (tm).

      It's all such silly stupid bullshit. Not a year ago everyone here got hard for SCO. They sold linux. Hooray SCO! Now we hate them. In a year or so we'll hate IBM again.

      Corporations act like corporations, and in a very predictable way if you sit back and look at it, without trying to demonize or canonize them as if they were humans. They're neither evil nor benevolant. Yesterday we found that even our beloved Apple has no problem whipping out the DMCA to prevent real competition.

      For all of what Microsoft has done in the past, none of it should really reflect on Gates. They didn't run it like Enron, he ran it honestly albeit aggressively. Sure, you can argue Windows is a monopoly now. But the route they took to get it there, was frankly, brilliant.

      Ah fuck it. This is slashdot, home of 13-year-olds who type "emerge -u world", and think that sitting there watching text scroll by for hours makes them a unix guru.

    2. Re:I've always seen him as a good man by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And the only reason they can afford to provide all these benefits is by raping the rest of the computer industry.

      I'm sorry, but abusing monopoly power to make tons of money is wrong, no matter what you do with the money.

      -Z

    3. Re:I've always seen him as a good man by demachina · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Only a meager decade or so ago, we adored him,"

      Not true. In the early days most hackers were doing open source because it was a community and sharing helped everyone. It was Gate's famous letter that was at the fore front of trying to putting an end to hacking and open source, so he could make a business out of it. He was a borderline rip off artist in his early days, with both Basic and DOS. No, I don't think Gates has ever really been liked by the hacker community.

      "It's all such silly stupid bullshit. Not a year ago everyone here got hard for SCO. They sold linux. Hooray SCO! Now we hate them. In a year or so we'll hate IBM again"

      SCO/Caldera was a completely different company when they were really supporting Linux. It was Ransom Love not Darl McBride calling the shots when then, he left as they transitioned to the new detestable business model. Ransom is a pretty decent guy. Corporations don't act, the people that run them do. Caldera under Ransom was a decent company, SCO under McBride is simply detestable by any measure.

      Everything Microsoft has done and is doing SHOULD reflect on Gates even. Gates gave up the CEO title most probably to simplify his life but he is most assuredly still calling the shots anytime he feels like it. He owns a huge percentage of the stock so all of Microsoft's officers serve at his discretion.

      The fact is companies change, as do the people that run them. If you are to dumb to judge them by their current management and behavior might I suggest you rush out and put all your money in the stock market using your obvious business acumen as a guide.

      "he ran it honestly albeit aggressively"

      That is simply not true. He and his company are convicted monopolists. They've engaged in illegal tactics that have driven relatively honest companies trying to innovate in to bankruptcy or various other forms of oblivion. The reason he throws these little bashes and pumps money in to the pockets of these politicians is to ensure he has political cover for any future underhanded behavior he should choose to undertake. For example he could count on the Bush administration to gut the antitrust judgement against his company.

      At this point I guess I'd have to say you are either stupid or a pretty obvious troll.

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  3. The coolest part by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is a sad statement on human nature that when a person becomes so wealthy and powerful, they no longer get to enjoy the simpler things in peace. I suspect there are many days when he and his family wishes they could drive to Disneyland and go on the rides like everyone else. Most public places are probably off limits due to the complexity of managing security. Kidnapping is an endless concern.

    I may not agree with all that Microsoft does as an entity, but I sometimes wish our world would let the man talk about his kids.

    1. Re:The coolest part by Threni · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > I suspect there are many days when he and his family wishes they could drive to
      > Disneyland and go on the rides like everyone else

      There are days when I wish I could just hire the whole bloody place for a day and be the only person there.

      > I sometimes wish our world would let the man talk about his kids.

      I'm sorry - what's stopping him from doing that?

    2. Re:The coolest part by tyrantnine · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While unfortunate, I think it's a far sadder commentary about our current society that one single man holds such incredibly excessive wealth in a world where hundreds of millions struggle to simply survive.

      Not to mention that this will more than likely just be passed on generation to generation for some time to come, producing William Gates VII the incredibly rich Senator from Washington, etc, who'll be shining beacons of the ever widening gap between the rich and poor. While we may ignore the sins of the fathers, it's very interesting children ARE entitled to their enduring economic power, which in the case of the super-rich in our society, is basically a train with no stop.

      Anyway, attempting to evoke empathy about the rough spots encountered by being the richest man on the planet is really distrubing. When spending moments reflecting on the tribulations of your fellow humans, I think there are probably at least 3 or 4 billion people that are far more worthy of your consideration than Bill Gates.

    3. Re:The coolest part by RazzleFrog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am no big Gates or Microsoft fan but he does far more than anybody on that Forbes 500. His foundation gave the most grants in the US - $1.2 billion mostly to Global Health and Education (to contrast - Larry Ellison's (#5 on Forbes) Foundation gave $33 million mostly for aging and infectious disease - prevention I assume). There is really only so much that money can do, though. Think of a country like Sudan. $100 billion is not going to save that country's problems.

      I am not saying that we should put Gates on a pedastal or build a monument to him but we should respect was he does try to do.

      PS - He is not even close to being the richest man on the planet. If you think that the wealth of all of those Saudi oil Princes is even close to what Forbes reports you are looney.

    4. Re:The coolest part by ifwm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I think it's a far sadder commentary about our current society that one single man holds such incredibly excessive wealth in a world where hundreds of millions struggle to simply survive."

      Why? Since when is it reasonable to expect people to NOT acquire wealth? Why is it sad that the man made a fortune and has set his family up for life? Why is it his job to help people who can't (or won't) help themselves? You seem to assume that acquiring wealth is somehow immoral.

      As for the last part, I agree with you here. While it may be difficult sometimes being Gates, I doubt his problems compare to starving to death in a desert.

      However, it's still not Gates' job to fix that just because he happens to have money.

  4. How to Win at Lawmaking by diagnosis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While this whole thing may reek of money politics, it sounds like this whole thing is at least coming down 'on the right side' of some issues, encouraging the extension of the moratorium on 'net sales taxes, and loose regulation of VoIP. Of course, there is still that minor 'monopoly' issue.

    Politics can be pretty distateful, especially when it involves things like shutting down public roads so that rich people can talk to politicians in private.

    Anyway, it sounds like Microsoft is lobbying the National Governors Association (NGA) to have more forward-thinking opinions on the things they have influence over: The 'Net sales tax moratorium, VoIP regulations, etc. While I doubt many people agree with MS's thoughts about their monopoly, it is nice to have someone 'legitimate' pushing the NGA in a more Libertarian direction, at least a little bit.

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  5. This is news? by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 3, Insightful

    OK, other than the class warfare angle that plays so well to anti-capitalist-types on Slashdot, exactly why is this news? Bill Gates threw a ball for a bunch of current and ex-government types. He paid for it with his own cash. If he got "government" guards, it's because government guests were present. Duh! The Slashdot "article" on this reads like a bit of Bill-Gates-is-rich-and-evil propaganda.

    Look, I don't like the guy and I don't like Windows, but what he does with his own time and his own money is his business. You don't see a Slashdot article about "John Kerry and John Edwards host celebrity-laden post-convention gala with celebrity personal security" do you?

    I mean, I know Slashdot is heavily biased, but you ought to go back to at least trying to hide it.

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    1. Re:This is news? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Have you taken note of all the million dollar parties at the Democratic Convention this week? DO you think the companies and organizations paying for these parties are doing it out of the kindness of their hearts? HA. Buying access and influence.

      As it always has been.

    2. Re:This is news? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Where you even alive a few years ago? At all? The old Netscape vs Microsoft ruling *did* find Microsoft to be a monopoly. Absolutely. It's just that being a monopoly is not a crime by itself. It opens up the possibiilty for types of crimes that would otherwise be impossible, but it is still possible to be a monopoly and not get in trouble for it if you watch your behaviour carefully. And no, 100% marketshare is not the definition of a monopoly.

      So, to put it in your own words, "you're either misinformed, exaggerating, or outright lying. I hope it's the first case."


      The company that can produce the best product for the best price with the best profit margin wins in the long run.

      What does "best" mean here? It doesn't mean "best for the consumer".

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  6. Awesome Alliteration Aggravates Anti-MS Attitudes. by Randolpho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously, I love good alliteration. Big kudos for a cool title.

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  7. Why should I be outraged? by Erwos · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, basically, Gates throws a party, invites a bunch of rather important people, and then the government _dares_ to protect them for the night? This hardly seems wasteful - for once, the government is doing their job, and protecting people who really need to be protected. Keep in mind that Bill and friends face a much larger security threat than does the average /.'er.

    I mean, come on, guys. Save the outrage for the outrageous. Would you be happier if Bill hired a private army equipped with military weapons to do the protection?

    -Erwos

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  8. aaaaaaah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sorry but I can't stand all this being nice to Bill stuff, This is /. for god's sake.

    Microsoft has reached and held on to the current position it occupies by destroying competitors in the most appalling and brutal way possible. They did it to Lotus making sure that 123 couldn't work on each new release of Windows, they did it to handwriting pioneers Go, they did it to Netscape (trying to destroy the reputations of a number of genuine innovators like Tim Bray who was subject to a vicious, deeply personal extended attack by Microsoft in which they tried to destroy his career and took lethal action against a small struggling company because his wife worked there, all because he'd signed a consulting engagement with Netscape), they more or less did it to Apple and they're having a damn good go at Sun, and they will do it to Linux if they can work out how to. Now if Gates, as the starry-eyed intern suggests, actually believed passionately in software and computing (as I do) he wouldn't work for a company that sets out to kill anything interesting or innovative that he comes across. Perhaps its all Ballmer's fault, but I doubt it.

  9. Re:gates is cool by Zebbers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's helping people via money he gets by maintaining a monopoly.

    It's unimpressive....it's all about relative wealth and disposable income. The money he gives is a drop in a tiny tiny tiny bucket for him. While it is admirable that he is doing good things with extra money compared to others, it's not really out of his way.

    What irks me is that he, and microsoft, have so much cash and such a profit margin that they could retool their whole image and whole process and become a benevolent company. Instead they choose not to, and continue doing things like pushing around smaller companies and bankrolling sco.

    It just amazes me. It would be so easy for them to do a 180 and start becoming better in the publics eyes. And I'm not talking geeks. The majority of regular people are frustrated with the lackluster quality of the software even if they don't realize the monopoly or the practices.

    But, the reason Gate's got to where he is is his "never enough" mentality. While it may have made him one of the richest people in the world, and may have allowed him to do some good...the harm his company does by maintaining a monopoly and stifling innovation outweighs those benefits. It's called pulling a fast one people. Look, look I'm giving these people free cookies! Look! (Please don't look at the other people whom I'm beating down with my corporate moneystick.)

  10. 2 more cents to the pile...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you catch anyone in the right shade of light (so to speak) they can appear to be nice people, you can even be tricked into beleiving George Bush has a brain - but thats another story.

    Yes applaud the fact that Bill Gates is a caring father (so are a lot of other males on the planet) and yes he has pursued the American (capitalist) dream to its greatest (clap clap clap) but the fact remains the company he founded and still has a strong controlling interest in has some very bad business practices. Software patents, anti-competitive practices and the list goes on.

    Bill Gates as a dad - good for him.
    Bill Gates founder of Microsoft - good for him.
    Bill Gates a very rich man that can influence government policy - bad for us.

  11. I hope he didn't make the most common mistake by Chokai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well the intern made the single largest mistakes most newbie interns (I hope he's a newbie) make the first time they goto Bill's house. I think he'll learn though. :-)

    Either way, I was a MS intern for 5 years, the first year I couldn't go but by my second party I had figured out that you don't talk to Bill for very long least for more than maybe 15 minutes. The reason? Because everyone else from MS, and then some is there, for example Tom Brokaw was at one of my parties because of MSNBC. I would ask you this question? When else in your life are you going to have a chance to talk one on one with a senior VP for MS for 4 hours, yes 4 hours. Or for that matter someone like David Cutler or Michael Kinsley (who was my choice as I am interested in politics) You can either do that or stand in the donut around Bill and ask two or three questions and get short one sentence answers.

    I will admit that the house is quite impressive, when I was there I was informed by security that it's really two houses in one. The "conference center" part which is where you spend your time and a more intimate "living" part where the family actually spends thier time. I found the private little bungalow down by the beach with the adjacent boathouse the most interesting though, complete with lazy boys, a chess board and an interesting selection of books scattered around.

  12. Re:Dichotomy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ugghh... good point, but whattaya gonna do? I'd vote Nader if it wasn't the functional equivalent of a vote for Bush. Better my rich kid at the helm than theirs...

  13. choice? by zogger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Choice? where is it? for years whenever I walked into any store selling computers they sold boxes with windows installed. For 99% of the people out there, there hasn't been any "choice" beyond this theoretical "if you maybe heard of another operating system and maybe could track it down and maybe get it installed then maybe you had a "choice"". People don't run windows because they comparison shopped, they run windows because that's what came on their computers. I know people who have never even *seen* a macintosh, let alone anything different on the x86 platform.

    Don't confuse slashdot readership (that would also inlcude you and me) with the "market" in general. Microsoft got where they are via industry collusion, bribes, threats, kickbacks, etc in some very high places, not from normal consumer "choice" at the computer store. Heck, I've even got an older 1996 IBM computer here I bought severely discounted but still brand new in a sealed box, it didn't have os2 on it, it had NT on it when I bought it.

    "Choice" is only relative when it actually exists in enough of a widespread manner that it is available to most consumers where they shop. It is only in the last two years that there has been any significant breakthrough in operating systems choice, and even now it is still mighty thin on the ground. I did a look in my area, there are 6 stores total that sell computers near me, none of them carry anything but XP boxes, nor are there even any alternative OSes on the shelf with the various software for sale. This is NOT "consumer choice selecting the best product".

  14. Re:gates is cool by Rostin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's unimpressive....it's all about relative wealth and disposable income. The money he gives is a drop in a tiny tiny tiny bucket for him. While it is admirable that he is doing good things with extra money compared to others, it's not really out of his way.

    Call me when your net worth is tens of billions of dollars and you're giving away 95% of it. I really suspect the basis of this comment is a mistaken belief in your own decency, viz, "If I had billions of dollars, I'd give it all away except a couple of million to live on." Everyone SAYS that. I suspect it's much harder than it sounds. I might be way off the mark here, but if you are a working geek, chances are you have disposable income. What are you doing with it? It's a fair question because if it really is just about relative wealth and disposable income, some dirt farmer or kid going through the garbage in a third world country could justifiably look at you and say, "Wow! If I had that guy's cash, I'd be giving it away like mad!" And then he would wonder, unless I miss my guess, why you aren't.

    While it may have made him one of the richest people in the world, and may have allowed him to do some good...the harm his company does by maintaining a monopoly and stifling innovation outweighs those benefits.

    I could buy the argument that the ends don't justify the means. But to argue that the harm MS has done really outweighs the good Gates has done with his personal wealth is mindboggling. So some relatively affluent people have been put out of work (in a country where the government would take care of them, worse case scenario), and your favorite software isn't as popular as maybe it might otherwise be. A lot of the money he is shoveling out is going more or less directly to save people's lives. Do you really think the two compare?

  15. Simple Solution by Vagary · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not like anything is forcing him to be wealthy and powerful: if he gave all his money away, no one would bother kidnapping him.

    It's like music and movie celebrities who complain about paparazzi: their salary is based on their worship by the masses, but they expect the masses to worship them without idols?

  16. Re:In all fairness..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Again, being loud, passionate, whatever, is only a good thing if you're right. If you're not smart enough to be right, at least be quiet.

    Unfortunately, there is no shortage of engineers who are more than willing to passionately pitch their bad ideas. They will tell the boss to his face that they should bet the company on this bad idea. In general, the boss is either not smart enough or close enough to the technology to tell if the engineer is right or not. How is this a good thing?

    I've seen this happen then seen the passionate engineer leave before his idea proved bogus. By that time, he's already at his next job where his new bosses think he's brilliant because he can passionately defend his ideas.