You've called names and made silly accusations, you haven't even begun to debate.
"Sweden already DROPPED"
Has fuckall to do with any of my points.
"How much more evidence of a witch hunt do you need?"
I thought that from the beginning.
Had you spent more time learning to read, and less time learning to call names, you'd relaize my problem was with minimizing rape. THAT'S ALL.
The funny thing is you used the classic internet troll "I WIN" but you don't even understand what you're discussing, and your tirade just proved it.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I NEVER THOUGHT ASSANGE WAS GUILTY, AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE CHARGES WERE THIN, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT APPARENTLY.
If I had mod points I'd be running through modding down every single one of his posts
Of course you would, you call names when you lose debates, why wouldn't you be expected to be childish there too?
That's the truth, for example, in this post http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2945641&cid=40488907 you claim they never used the word rape, despite their being several examples of it in the legal briefs filed in UK courts.
Of course, you'll never admit you were caught lying, you don't have enough integrity for that.
You've called names and made silly accusations, you haven't even begun to debate.
Sweden already DROPPED
Has fuckall to do with any of my points.
How much more evidence of a witch hunt do you need?
I thought that from the beginning.
Had you spent more time learning to read, and less time learning to call names, you'd relaize my problem was with minimizing rape. THAT'S ALL.
The funny thing is you used the classic internet troll "I WIN" but you don't even understand what you're discussing, and your tirade just proved it.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I NEVER THOUGHT ASSANGE WAS GUILTY, AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE CHARGES WERE THIN, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT APPARENTLY.
The Swedish laws are not written in English, so they never once use the word "rape".
They filed a brief in the UK.
And is your point REALLY that Swedes don't speak English, so they don't use the word rape, so, it's not "rape by the legal definition of the country charging him"?
None of that matters; it's the use of quotation marks around the word "rape" that will cause of us to doubt his guilt
No, it's your use of the scare quotes around rape that minimizes a rape, regardless of whether you agree with the definition.
But you keep banging on me about the fact that I dislike the idea of playing semantic games with rape accusations.
And by the way, I think the whole thing is bullshit too. You seem to think that because I won't allow you and people like you to do shady underhanded shit with scare quotes that I want Assange in jail.
That's funny, because the women went to police not to seek prosecution but to make him take an AIDS test. So it seems they didn't want to press any charges. Funny that.
So, now that you've been shown you were wrong in your claim that " it's not rape by any english language definition. " you're moving on to...what?
Some nonsensical assertion that, what, police don't have police powers? That only a victim can insist charges be pursued?
What's your point? I bet it's that you think the US government insisted he be prosecuted, isn't it? But you're too cowardly to say it, so you insinuate it.
Which suddenly makes your desire to defend the scare quotes make a lot of sense.
More bullshit, the quotes provide no context or explanation for their presence.
If any of you ACTUALLY CARED about clearing up the confusion about definitions, you'd be avoiding those quotes like the plague and, instead, explaining the law in Sweden.
And we've been in a recession pretty much every day since, the middle class is rapidly deteriorating into the working poor, the national debt is ballooning, and all those trillions that got sucked out of the economy to fund the war effort means our national infrastructure is going to pieces -- bridges are falling into rivers, half of New Orleans was wiped off the face of the planet and there's no money to repair it, there are mass water shortages across most of the southern part of the country, and the list goes on.
Half that list is exaggeration or outright fabrication and the rest is a list of things that were occurring without Al Qaeda.
Next you'll be blaming childhood obesity and the Cold War on OBL and Al Qaeda.
Because it's not rape by any english language definition.
It's rape by the legal definition of the country charging him, which as far as I'm aware, is all that's necessary.
And what's this "english language definition" jingoistic crap? What does that have to do with anything? Are non-english speakers somehow incapable of deciding what the definition of rape is in their legal system?
Quotes are appropriate.
Bullshit.
The scare quotes are propaganda, designed to make people question the veracity of the accuser's claims.
Here in the UK, you are despised for an extradition agreement which allows you to successfully have someone sent over for prosecution who has committed no crime under UK law and never even entered the US.
So you're saying people in the UK are stupid and blame others for legislation the people THEY CHOSE TO ELECT implemented?
"Without government the country is just landmass."
Full of PEOPLE, who form a SOCIETY.
" Landmass is nothing to be proud of."
PEOPLE and a SOCIETY are.
"Pride is one's country is pride in one's government"
Stupid and nonsensical, I can be proud of the PEOPLE in my COUNTRY, and their INDIVIDUAL and COLLECTIVE achievements, without supporting the government at all.
Society is NOT government. Stop your lazy thinking.
I hate that people like you think "we" did this, I didn't have anything to do with this.
Stop giving these thugs legitimacy in your attempt to soothe your guilt over being American, they're not fulfilling any mandate from the American people and don't deserve the cover people like you give them.
That is incorrect, the Commerce Clause was limited in this decision, specifically, the activity/inactivity distinction was recognized as valid and upheld.
"On that question, the Court held that the provision is constitutional"
That is also grossly incorrect, it is currently UN-Constitutional as written. I don't know why she decided to emphasize it that way.
"The main problem with comics on a screen (any screen) these days is that humans can focus in close on a printed page fairly easily, but readers suck at zooming and moving around a large image. So you can either see the page art then zoom in to actually read the text (repeated), or you can read panels at a time (zooming in to see, say, 1/6th of the page) and miss the full impact of the occasional full-page or two-page spread."
I really have no idea what you're talking about, I have a 22 inch monitor and I can do both of those quite nicely at the same time, no compromise required.
Whoever modded you up obviously doesn't actually read comics on a monitor, and I'm guessing neither do you.
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"but I've already WON the debate"
You've called names and made silly accusations, you haven't even begun to debate.
"Sweden already DROPPED"
Has fuckall to do with any of my points.
"How much more evidence of a witch hunt do you need?"
I thought that from the beginning.
Had you spent more time learning to read, and less time learning to call names, you'd relaize my problem was with minimizing rape. THAT'S ALL.
The funny thing is you used the classic internet troll "I WIN" but you don't even understand what you're discussing, and your tirade just proved it.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I NEVER THOUGHT ASSANGE WAS GUILTY, AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE CHARGES WERE THIN, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT APPARENTLY.
If I had mod points I'd be running through modding down every single one of his posts
Of course you would, you call names when you lose debates, why wouldn't you be expected to be childish there too?
I don't know all the facts
That's the truth, for example, in this post http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2945641&cid=40488907
you claim they never used the word rape, despite their being several examples of it in the legal briefs filed in UK courts.
Of course, you'll never admit you were caught lying, you don't have enough integrity for that.
but I've already WON the debate
You've called names and made silly accusations, you haven't even begun to debate.
Sweden already DROPPED
Has fuckall to do with any of my points.
How much more evidence of a witch hunt do you need?
I thought that from the beginning.
Had you spent more time learning to read, and less time learning to call names, you'd relaize my problem was with minimizing rape. THAT'S ALL.
The funny thing is you used the classic internet troll "I WIN" but you don't even understand what you're discussing, and your tirade just proved it.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? I NEVER THOUGHT ASSANGE WAS GUILTY, AND HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE CHARGES WERE THIN, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT APPARENTLY.
Right, so when a country makes overly expansive definitions of crimes,
So, now that it's been shown that you were lying when you claimed it "does not fit any reasonable definition of the word "rape"" you expect debate?
Perhaps if you hadn't openly lied as your initial tactic.
And as an aside, you provided a small explanation with those scare quotes, which was my suggestion, so thanks for proving my point.
No, it's not.
Yes it is.
The Swedish laws are not written in English, so they never once use the word "rape".
They filed a brief in the UK.
And is your point REALLY that Swedes don't speak English, so they don't use the word rape, so, it's not "rape by the legal definition of the country charging him"?
What the fuck?
Except there is
No, there isn't.
which does not fit any reasonable definition of the word "rape"
Sweden disagrees.
Wow. I looked at your posts briefly and 3 new astro turfing posts
So, do you do anything other than minimize rape allegations and call names to people you can't debate?
By the way, "That makes you scum. Period."
I'm amazed theres a sleeper astro turfer with such an old UID.
Awesome, name calling. First you support minimizing rape allegations, then you resort to name calling.
You're all class.
None of that matters; it's the use of quotation marks around the word "rape" that will cause of us to doubt his guilt
No, it's your use of the scare quotes around rape that minimizes a rape, regardless of whether you agree with the definition.
But you keep banging on me about the fact that I dislike the idea of playing semantic games with rape accusations.
And by the way, I think the whole thing is bullshit too. You seem to think that because I won't allow you and people like you to do shady underhanded shit with scare quotes that I want Assange in jail.
You're minimizing a rape allegation.
That makes you scum. Period.
They identify that there IS a very serious inconsistency.
Except there isn't.
That's funny, because the women went to police not to seek prosecution but to make him take an AIDS test. So it seems they didn't want to press any charges. Funny that.
So, now that you've been shown you were wrong in your claim that " it's not rape by any english language definition. " you're moving on to...what?
Some nonsensical assertion that, what, police don't have police powers? That only a victim can insist charges be pursued?
What's your point? I bet it's that you think the US government insisted he be prosecuted, isn't it? But you're too cowardly to say it, so you insinuate it.
Which suddenly makes your desire to defend the scare quotes make a lot of sense.
Even then, it needs to be under quotes.
More bullshit, the quotes provide no context or explanation for their presence.
If any of you ACTUALLY CARED about clearing up the confusion about definitions, you'd be avoiding those quotes like the plague and, instead, explaining the law in Sweden.
The quotes do nothing to clarify anything.
And we've been in a recession pretty much every day since, the middle class is rapidly deteriorating into the working poor, the national debt is ballooning, and all those trillions that got sucked out of the economy to fund the war effort means our national infrastructure is going to pieces -- bridges are falling into rivers, half of New Orleans was wiped off the face of the planet and there's no money to repair it, there are mass water shortages across most of the southern part of the country, and the list goes on.
Half that list is exaggeration or outright fabrication and the rest is a list of things that were occurring without Al Qaeda.
Next you'll be blaming childhood obesity and the Cold War on OBL and Al Qaeda.
And the scare quotes help clear up that inconsistency how?
They don't. Because they weren't meant to.
Then you explain the inconsistency, you don't put scare quotes on it.
Because it's not rape by any english language definition.
It's rape by the legal definition of the country charging him, which as far as I'm aware, is all that's necessary.
And what's this "english language definition" jingoistic crap? What does that have to do with anything? Are non-english speakers somehow incapable of deciding what the definition of rape is in their legal system?
Quotes are appropriate.
Bullshit.
The scare quotes are propaganda, designed to make people question the veracity of the accuser's claims.
Stop giving cover to that kind of nonsense.
Here in the UK, you are despised for an extradition agreement which allows you to successfully have someone sent over for prosecution who has committed no crime under UK law and never even entered the US.
So you're saying people in the UK are stupid and blame others for legislation the people THEY CHOSE TO ELECT implemented?
Taking pride from something you had no part in
Well, it's a good thing I have a part in America every single day.
So, if you are proud to be an American you are either an immigrant or a psychotic.
OR not an AC troll who is ill informed enough to make a poorly thought out post about how Americans apparently have no part in America somehow...
Seriously, did you actually think your troll made sense?
The rise of Corporations as 'people' has completely displaced individuals in having much say in their government.
Are we talking all corporations, including Unions which are corporations, or just corporations that you personally dislike?
"you are the government "
No I'm not. No more than I'm the CEO of companies I own stock in.
"You can't just execute every bothersome politician. And it wouldn't do much good any way.
[citation needed]"
Wait wait wait, you actually ASKED FOR A CITATION to demonstrate that we, as citizens, can't execute every bothersome politician?
YOU ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A CITATION FOR THAT, AND EXPECT US NOT TO DISMISS YOU AS THE NUTJOB TROLL YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE?
"Without government the country is just landmass."
Full of PEOPLE, who form a SOCIETY.
" Landmass is nothing to be proud of."
PEOPLE and a SOCIETY are.
"Pride is one's country is pride in one's government"
Stupid and nonsensical, I can be proud of the PEOPLE in my COUNTRY, and their INDIVIDUAL and COLLECTIVE achievements, without supporting the government at all.
Society is NOT government. Stop your lazy thinking.
" the rest of the world really despises us"
I hate that people like you think "we" did this, I didn't have anything to do with this.
Stop giving these thugs legitimacy in your attempt to soothe your guilt over being American, they're not fulfilling any mandate from the American people and don't deserve the cover people like you give them.
" That is all that matters."
That is incorrect, the Commerce Clause was limited in this decision, specifically, the activity/inactivity distinction was recognized as valid and upheld.
"On that question, the Court held that the provision is constitutional"
That is also grossly incorrect, it is currently UN-Constitutional as written. I don't know why she decided to emphasize it that way.
"The main problem with comics on a screen (any screen) these days is that humans can focus in close on a printed page fairly easily, but readers suck at zooming and moving around a large image. So you can either see the page art then zoom in to actually read the text (repeated), or you can read panels at a time (zooming in to see, say, 1/6th of the page) and miss the full impact of the occasional full-page or two-page spread."
I really have no idea what you're talking about, I have a 22 inch monitor and I can do both of those quite nicely at the same time, no compromise required.
Whoever modded you up obviously doesn't actually read comics on a monitor, and I'm guessing neither do you.
Careful, you sound like one of those partisan hacks yourself, what with your shooting the messenger and all.
Because pointing out and decrying partisanship is itself partisan, or something.../sarcasm