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Dial-Up Friendly Websites?

rinkjustice asks: "I'm one of those unlucky souls damned to dial-up internet access. I've been trying to make the best of the situation, however: I use the stripped-down Slashdot homepage, and my kids are slowly acclimatising to dial-up friendly gaming fare ala Games.com, Yahoo! Games instead of bandwidth clotting MMORPG's like RuneScape. What other fun, interesting websites cater to the 56k crowd? Are there any websites specifically 'optimized' for a lo-bandwidth audience?"

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  1. SSH by brilinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I too have a dial-up connection, and one of the things that I do a lot online is read documentation and manuals that I do not want to buy/print/download because of cost/too much paper/size, etc., but one thing that is useful is SSHing into my college account and running "links" to read it. I cannot see pictures, but who needs them? As for sites, Slashdot normally loads fairly fast on dial up without toning it down, and once I am used to the slow speed, even flash-intensive sites do not bother me much; however, I do use Yahoo! games on occasion, and there are quite a few sites that have lighter versions.

  2. Use avantgo or palm based websites... by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Use avantgo or palm based websites...

    Like this one:
    http://www.slashdot.org/palm

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  3. who still visits web pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm on dialup. I read all my news via RSS feeds. Web sites without feeds just don't exist (except maybe when I have to buy something and I have to delve into the sea of slow bloated incompatible crap).

    Yeah, RSS is a "buzzword", whatever, but being able to put all this content in *my* choice of format, arranged by *date* rather than website, with no flash or ads or junk is just great.

    I have a program download the feeds and prepare a static HTML file using XSLT.

  4. block the ads, cache everything! by molo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you greatly want to decrease page load time, I suggest blocking the advertisements. They are often in an iframe, resulting in at least 2 GETs per image (not to mention html parsing). They are also kept on different servers usually, so you can't reuse your current HTTP session, you have to start a new one, with a TCP 3-way handshake that can take upwards of half a second on a modem (especially one with the bandwidth already saturated loading the rest of the page).

    Use a proxy like privoxy or junkbuster (outdated, only does HTML 1.0, try privoxy first). Or, get a browser plugin to do the same (for example, AdBlock for FireFox).

    Then setup a Squid caching proxy to keep you from repeating DNS lookups and retrieving the same page or image. This gives a huge boost, since images can be loaded from memory or disk instead of a network roundtrip. The more disk and memory you throw at Squid, the more cache hits you get.

    BTW, junkbuster can be configured to use another proxy (like Squid) so you can use both together. I think privoxy will do that too.

    Oh, one last thing.. if you know any web site admins, get them to turn on apache's mod_gzip compression. It compresses pages for http transmission and saves oodles of bandwidth. Most popular sites use it. Browsers like IE and Mozilla support it. Any decent cache (squid) will support it too.

    These kind of changes make browsing over modem much more tolerable. Good luck.

    -molo

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  5. Tweak the browser by i.r.id10t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hey, 56k used to be faster than most :)

    Anyway, I think it is a shame website designers are forgetting about you... if it helps, I do test most all of what we produce at work on a 28.8 modem. Of course, we also test for ADA compliance...

    Anyway, try using Mozilla/Firefox with that plugin that launches Flash, etc. only when you want it. Also, use the userContent.css file to block ad servers, images that have "ads" in the path, etc. Perhaps get a copy of that hosts file that kills ads, counters, etc. as well. - http://www.everythingisnt.com/hosts.html

    Also, set your browser cache to a slightly larger size (10-15mb maybe?) and set it to check for new stuff only once per session.

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  6. Web designers are in a lose/lose by oldosadmin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hear all these posts saying "why do you not care about 56k users, webmasters, boo hoo"... well, the bottom line is, it's a lose/lose situation.

    I run the site www.oldos.org, and I moved to a layout which loads probably about 4 times faster than the old layout, just to get fussed by a ton of people saying they hate it.

    Make up your mind! Do you want fast or dancing babies?

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  7. Doesn't have to be lose/lose by friedegg · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are plenty of things you can do that aren't lose/lose:

    1. Use mod_gzip (or equivalent) to compress text pages. It's a small cpu hit on the server (less if you cache the gziped output), but it pays off in reduced bandwidth costs for you and faster page loads for users.

    2. Use properly compressed PNGs rather than GIFs for line art/text graphics. If at all possible, use actual text with styles instead of graphics.

    3. Use proper (X)HTML and CSS. They'll compress better if they're valid, and if you use external CSS files, users can cache them.

    4. Set correct expiration headers on pages/graphics to let the user's browser know how long it can cache them.

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    1. Re:Doesn't have to be lose/lose by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are some things the client can do to improve compression and caching. First, install wwwoffle, a caching http server which has an 'offline' mode so you can browse cached pages when not connected. If like me you really hate waiting for previously-viewed pages to download a second time, tweak the config file so it always uses cached copies when available. Then the Back button and viewing familiar sites will be lightning fast, but you'll need to hit Reload to get the latest version.

      I've also found it useful to run a proxy server on a remote host with a fast connection and then tunnel the http proxy port (usually 3128 or 8080) over ssh. Then there is just a single ssh connection between your machine and the proxy, with everything over that being compressed and no overhead of setting up new TCP connections, DNS lookups and so on. This is really fast, but I have found that the ssh tunnelling tended to freeze and the connection needed to be killed and restarted. (That was a few years ago, the bug may now be fixed.) You could try RabbIT as the upstream proxy, compressing images and such before sending them down.

      You can certainly combine all three - local wwwoffle, talking over a compressed ssh tunnel to RabbIT at a faster host...

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    2. Re:Doesn't have to be lose/lose by friedegg · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can actually use the latest versions of Putty as a dynamic socks5 proxy (works with most browsers, mail clients, etc), so you don't even need a real proxy server, just an SSH connection that allows tunnelling.

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  8. Re:Great, put us all out of business. by molo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Display is up to the client. Deal with it. The client may chose to ignore your stylesheet or your color scheme or your images.

    If your revenue model doedn't work with the realities of the general purpose web technology, which do you think is flawed, the revenue model or the technology?

    And I suppose browsing with text mode browsers or by blind people rob you of your revenue too? Get real.

    -molo

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  9. ADA compliance? by k4_pacific · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does that mean it contains Flouride?

    4 out of 5 dentists recommend ADA compliant websites.

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  10. Gmail by rapjo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From my own experience on broadband and what my friends who are stuck on 56k have told me, Gmail is quite awesome, even on a 56k.