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Top 100 Papers in Physics Ranked

Rob Carr writes "What do physicists care about most? Who are the greatest minds of our time? What physics papers have had the greatest impact? Sidney Redner attempts to answer that question by looking at the citations of all journals in the Physical Review Journals since 1893. He ranked the top 100 papers based on their 'impact': the number of citations times the average age of the citations. Einstein's Relativity papers, which were not in Physical Review journals, are the most stunning absence. 'Fan Favorites' are there - Einstein does make the list for the Einstein Podolsky Rosen paper. Feynman, Dirac, Bethe, Wheeler are on the list. Stephen Hawking does not make the list. Yet Nobel Prize winner Walter Kohn, who is virtually unknown to the general public, is an author on five of the 100 papers, including the top two and one of the top 15 'hot' papers. The paper goes into the statistics of the citations, a fascinating area in it's own right. Some papers make an immediate splash, while others might wait 50 years before their importance becomes apparent. The vast majority die a quick and quiet death. It's tempting to wonder if Redner's paper conclusively proves Sturgeon's Law."

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  1. You can't go by Feynman's papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
  2. It's just phys rev by dbitch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, but it's just Phys Rev. A lot of cool stuff happens that never gets published in Phys Rev. Sometimes, it's a talk at a symposium that is published and makes a big splash.

    1. Re:It's just phys rev by rsidd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only that, but before World War II, the "centre of gravity" for science was really Europe, not America, so hardly any of the major papers in quantum mechanics and so on got published in the Physical Review journals. So this survey is highly biased to the years after 1945. That's why condensed matter physics does so well: its golden age was the 1950s and the 1960s, when basic quantum mechanics was well understood and techniques from quantum field theory were being applied to solid state systems for the first time.

    2. Re:It's just phys rev by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Since no one has mentioned it: the Kohn in question won the Nobel Prize in 1998 and is still active and teaching at UC Santa Barbara (confirming his good taste as well as Physics acumen).

      His web page is at http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~kohn/

      bl

  3. Scientific collaboration networks by mattjb0010 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're interested in network theory in general, and as it applies to scientific collaborations, you could do much worse than checking out Mark Newman's publications, in particular this, this, and this.

  4. Quick and quiet death? by rde · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As has been pointed out, it's possible for a paper to lie undiscovered for decades before being revived; Mandel being the most obvious example. I'd suggest that papers didn't die; they're in hibernation.

    Oh, and am I the only one that chortled at the fact that this paper, which lists the 100 most cited papers, had only 26 references?

    1. Re:Quick and quiet death? by i_should_be_working · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, and am I the only one that chortled at the fact that this paper, which lists the 100 most cited papers, had only 26 references?

      heh, nope.
      and how about these?

      Read before you cite!
      cond-mat/0212043
      We report a method of estimating what percentage of people who cited a paper had actually read it. The method is based on a stochastic modeling of the citation process that explains empirical studies of misprint distributions in citations (which we show follows a Zipf law). Our estimate is only about 20% of citers read the original.

      Copied citations create renowned papers?
      cond-mat/0305150
      Recently we discovered (cond-mat/0212043) that the majority of scientific citations are copied from the lists of references used in other papers. Here we show that a model, in which a scientist picks three random papers, cites them,and also copies a quarter of their references accounts quantitatively for empirically observed citation distribution. Simple mathematical probability, not genius, can explain why some papers are cited a lot more than the other.

    2. Re:Quick and quiet death? by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Oh, and am I the only one that chortled at the fact that this paper, which lists the 100 most cited papers, had only 26 references?

      It's amusing, but not surprising: the current paper doesn't need to cite those other papers. It doesn't refer to their research or conclusions. It just counts their citations. The sources for the citation counts, plus sources for the techniques used to analyze the data, should properly be cited.

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  5. Ring a bell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    Some papers make an immediate splash, while others might wait 50 years before their importance becomes apparent
    Sounds like the USPTO...
  6. Sturgeon's law by philbert26 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    It's tempting to wonder if Redner's paper conclusively proves Sturgeon's Law."

    Which says, "90% of everything is crap". A good test would be to look at the citations of the famous papers. Do they just cite other top 100 papers? Or did the authors of the best papers learn from the work of their less famous colleagues?

    1. Re:Sturgeon's law by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Funny

      But if 90% of everything is crap then aren't 90 of these top 100 papers crap as well?

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  7. Counting Citations by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, someone does some research where they count the number of citations and then do some statistical analysis of it. I do recall reading similar articles in Grad School. A professor of such-and-such would count the number of citations in his or her field of study and publish a paper on it. So, if my memory is still correct, it's been done before in fields other than Physics (I wish I could remember what fields).

    Does this type of research really tell us anything? To me, all this tells us is that many other researchers spent alot of money either trying to prove or disprove Walter Kohn's theories. What this article doesn't tell us is whether or not Walter Kohn's theories are valid in the first place.

    At least it's kind of interesting. Well, interesting if you enjoy the study of splitting atoms.

    1. Re:Counting Citations by rangek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To me, all this tells us is that many other researchers spent alot of money either trying to prove or disprove Walter Kohn's theories. What this article doesn't tell us is whether or not Walter Kohn's theories are valid in the first place.

      Neither. Lot's of people have been using Walter Kohn's theory. The reason why he is at the top of the list is because of the sucess of density functional theory (DFT) first in condensed matter physics and then in chemistry. A goodly portion of the unclassified CPU power used my scientists around the world is probably dedicated to examining systems with DFT.

      Essentially, there are two neat things about DFT. The first is that it proves that it is possible to fully describe the state of a bunch of electrons with the 4 dimensional spin density, rather than the normal 4N coordinates (where N is the number of electrons, 3 cartestians an a spin per electron). This, combined with Kohn-Sham theory results in a method of calculating electronic structure that formally scales and N^4, but gives answers often as accurate as N^5 and higher methods. Hence, Nobel Prize :)

    2. Re:Counting Citations by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Note: I wasn't questioning Walter Kohn. I was questioning the theory behind the original article. How does counting citations become classified as "research".

    3. Re:Counting Citations by rangek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How does counting citations become classified as "research".

      Well, sure, it is not going to win this guy a Nobel prize, but it is interesting. Maybe not "research" by many definitions of the word, but definitely interesting.

      For example, while I am quite familiar with DFT and have read most (if not all) of the Kohn papers mentioned in the article, I would not have guessed he would have placed so high. But that is the neat thing. This paper shows how much physics and chemistry interact. Many of the other paper in this top 100 list are probably more cited in the chemistry literature than in physics (e.g. Carr-Parinello)

    4. Re:Counting Citations by AEton · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Does this type of research really tell us anything?

      Sort of. What it tells us is how necessary it is for researchers to cite certain papers for the points they're studying to be understood.

      What this research obliquely demonstrates is the obliteration phenomenon - that certain works in physics (though we can only speculate which) are so well-known that it's unnecessary to cite them.

      Eugene Garfield's paper on the subject, where he coined the term, is available here (because of the nature of the PDF, Google can't OCR it - sorry).

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    5. Re:Counting Citations by sphealey · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Neither. Lot's of people have been using Walter Kohn's theory. The reason why he is at the top of the list is because of the sucess of density functional theory (DFT) first in condensed matter physics and then in chemistry.
      The problem here is that if a concept is a "safety pin" - which is to say, after it has been described for the first time it is blindingly obvious to everyone in the field - then it may never be cited regardless of how seminal it actually was. No one cites Newton/Leibnitz every time they differentiate an equation in a physics paper, to take an extreme example.

      sPh

    6. Re:Counting Citations by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can call the systematic study of just about anything, digging through different sources, "research." It's just that this is research on physics papers and their authors, not on physics itself.

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    7. Re:Counting Citations by sp0rk173 · · Score: 3, Funny

      No one cites Newton/Leibnitz every time they differentiate an equation in a physics paper, to take an extreme example.

      Actually, I just read a paper (Kuczera - Journal of Hydrology, 94 1987 p215 - 236) where the author DID cite Newton/Leibnitz when he differentiated an equation.

  8. Higgs? EW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm surprised to not see more papers on electroweak/higgs theory. higgs, salam and weinberg aren't there, from the quick glance. glashow and maiani comes up at #73.


    pretty much every one of high energy particle physics papers published from Tevatron/FNAL and LEP/CERN data will cite those...

    i guess their work wasn't in the papers scanned...

    i'm kind of glad, as a PhD physicist and as a bit of a snob, that public popularity != scientific merit... you don't have to be known in public to have been a great physicist and also, just because you are know in public doesn't mean you were a great physicist.

    for example, feynman no doubt did some great physics, but he gets much, MUCH greater recognition over two other guys who did the same work (tomonaga and schwinger, they shared the nobel prize) because he was a very accessible guy, a great speaker/teacher and had an amazingly outgoing personality. rarity for a physicist, indeed... :P

    1. Re:Higgs? EW? by Bootsy+Collins · · Score: 5, Insightful

      for example, feynman no doubt did some great physics, but he gets much, MUCH greater recognition over two other guys who did the same work (tomonaga and schwinger, they shared the nobel prize)

      You're correct that Feynman was a more dynamic speaker/teacher, etc. But I think it's a bit of a jump to say that that's the only reason why he gets more attention than Schwinger and Tomonaga. For starters, they didn't all do the same work, even on QED. It's true that all three arrived at equivalent formalisms for calculating amplitudes, but that's not the same as saying they did the same work. Have you thrown away Feynman diagrams and straightforward perturbation expansions and instead tried to do things the way Schwinger did? It's a bitch! As a famous quote of the time went, "Feynman shows you how to do it; Schwinger shows you that only he can do it." And that had a lot to do with the eventual predominance of Feynman's perspective, and thus his getting more recognition than Schwinger or Tomonaga.

      Furthermore, while I can't speak to Tomonaga in this regard, Feynman made a major splash in a much broader spectrum of physical investigations than Schwinger did. The work on QED was simply one of many arguably Nobel-worthy accomplishments of his. That, too, contributes to his being paid more attention to than Schwinger and Tomonaga.

      Of course, you could argue that these are only things that matter to the cognoscenti; they don't explain why Feynman is more recognized by the general public. But I would claim that contrary to what physicists, and geeks who like physics, think, the general public is pretty oblivious to physicists entirely. They've heard of Einstein; they might have heard of Hawking. That's pretty much it, though. We think of Feynman as famous; the average person on the street has never heard of him.

      So while I would agree that Feynman's dynamic personality, excellence in presentation, etc., is important in the way he is remembered by those who are aware of him at all, at least equally important is the fact that he did a ton of amazing new physics.

    2. Re:Higgs? EW? by forii · · Score: 2, Informative
      Of course, you could argue that these are only things that matter to the cognoscenti; they don't explain why Feynman is more recognized by the general public.


      Feynman also gained a bit of public recognition because of his work on the commission investigating the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster.

  9. most copied idea? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it might say more about the most copied idea... a lot of times citations are made to basically restate someone else's idea, not that it particularly has to do with the researcher's idea, but as a refresher. To get that kinda info, you'd need to build a tree of some kind, right?

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    1. Re:most copied idea? by ggwood · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just referenced, not copied. Many references in a paper are to papers you are comparing with: e.g. disagreeing with. Further, some you just use as background. I suppose you could say extended upon - but usually if you are "extending" a theory it is because there is some problem with the existing theory. Further, once a theory (or, say, an experimental technique) becomes standard, it is no longer referenced and that space is given over to either a review article or a text book.

      Let me give an example. Suppose someone invents a new technique, say call it "cat splattering spectroscopy" (CSS) and it's useful for looking at widgits. The authors want to get the results out quickly so they submit a Physical Review Letter, max 4 pages, half of which is pictures of widgets. Although the technique may be simple, if it was not discovered until the 21st century, it is likely complicated. Since it is complicated, a page, say, is not sufficient to really explain what CSS entails, but that is all the room they have. This paper is the original, it may be referenced often, but it eventually it will become a poor reference for describing CSS.

      Eventually, someone (perhaps the original team, perhaps not) will write a really good paper on CSS and this will be referenced widely, also, eventually replacing the original paper.

      Counting citations is a pretty poor way to measure the impact of a paper, but I'm sure these papers are all very good because you can't be cited that many times without having something going for you.

      There are many other problems, of course.
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  10. This is absolutely wonderful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is absolutely wonderful.

    I am a high school dropout.

    Recently I developed a real passion for physics and have been reading introductory books like Hawking's Brief History and Feynman's Six Easy. This inspired me to self-teach myself calculus and algebra. I am just finishing up my high school via correspondence now and (don't want to brag) but I'm doing extremely well.

    For me, interest in the sciences and math took a long time to come out but now it has. The only problem is I have very little to turn to (I'm not a physics major).

    This article is truly one of the best I've found on slashdot so far. The only thing better would be having the papers in chronological order so I could learn them one at a time and know where to begin!

    (Mind you many of these will be for graduate-level people but I'm sure many can be read by the layman)

    Thanks!

    1. Re:This is absolutely wonderful! by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Mind you many of these will be for graduate-level people but I'm sure many can be read by the layman

      Ah, No.

    2. Re:This is absolutely wonderful! by pinopino · · Score: 3, Informative

      The papers listed are all given with full citations, including year. Go to your local library, or anywhere that has a subscription to PROLA (prola.aps.org) (you can also get one if you join APS, but it can be expensive). There, you can get full text of all of the articles listed in this paper, and many many more. Though most will likely be beyond the grasp of someone without at least some treaining in physics, the early seminal papers are illuminating, EPR being an excellent example.
      Good luck studying, and just because you're not a physics major now doesn't mean you can't become one with a little hard work if you want to!

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    3. Re:This is absolutely wonderful! by i_should_be_working · · Score: 3, Informative

      try the feynman lectures. they are lectures from his actual class. much better than his books like 'six easy pieces' if you are actually trying to learn physics.

      these papers are usually only readable by people in that field. even other physicists don't understand papers outside of their field.

    4. Re:This is absolutely wonderful! by kmac06 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I agree with the grandparent to this post. I'm halfway through an undergrad degree in Physics, and I can barely understand the topic of physics papers when I read them. IE, abstract for the #1 paper is:

      From a theory of Hohenberg and Kohn, approximation methods for treating an inhomogeneous system of interacting electrons are developed. These methods are exact for systems of slowly varying or high density. For the ground state, they lead to self-consistent equations analogous to the Hartree and Hartree-Fock equations, respectively. In these equations the exchange and correlation portions of the chemical potential of a uniform electron gas appear as additional effective potentials. (The exchange portion of our effective potential differs from that due to Slater by a factor of 23.) Electronic systems at finite temperatures and in magnetic fields are also treated by similar methods. An appendix deals with a further correction for systems with short-wavelength density oscillations.

      I kinda sorta knew what they were talking about up until Hartree and Hartree-Fock. After that I have no idea. For most of these papers, you really do need some graduate level education to know what's going on..

    5. Re:This is absolutely wonderful! by fred_sanford · · Score: 2, Informative

      The best place to learn, FOR FREE, from one of the best universities for science, goto MITs Open Courseware. Enjoy!

    6. Re:This is absolutely wonderful! by Stridar · · Score: 2, Informative


      I respectfully disagree with the recommendation of the Feynman lectures for someone just beginning to learn physics. While the Feynman lectures are well written and full of interesting insights, I find that they are only useful as a refresher or study guide for someone who has a working knowledge of basic physics and calculus (equivalent to the first two years of a four year program).

      The main problems are lack of detailed examples and lack of revision sets. Without detailed examples, it is hard to do anything useful with the physics presented. And without revision sets, there is no way to learn the physics or math presented except by rote. For instance, in the second volume, there is a lengthy discussion on statics. You will develop a feel for the material, but any attempt to work outside the problems presented will find you groping for a more detailed electrodynamics book that presents a somewhat algorithmic approach to the calculations involved. Afterall, if you can not understand and apply the mathematics invovled, you will not understand the physics.

      I suggest anyone without a decent background would do better to pick up whatever textbook is used at their local university, and work through it first.

      As an aside, I would have gladly paid $50 extra for my set of the lectures if the editors had included the problems assigned.

  11. Non PDF Version by FelixCat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone find a non-pdf version. Here is the list of top 100 papers in text form, converted using pdftotext. Skip down a bit for the actual list of the top 100 papers.

    1. Re:Non PDF Version by RealAlaskan · · Score: 2, Informative
      Here it is, in several other formats. You can have postscript in two font choices, pdf, DVI, or the LaTeX source (which is ASCII with relatively unobtrusive markup).

      The top title, with 3227 citations, is ``Self-Consistent Equations...'', from 1965, obviously a methods paper. The average age of the citations for it was 26 years. If you want to make a mark in your field, come up with some hot new method that everyone will use for decades.

      Here are the top 100 titles from the paper, counting down from number 1 to 100:

      Self-Consistent Equations... Inhomogeneous Electron Gas E ects of Con guration... On the Quantum Correction... Self-Interaction Correction to... Interaction Between d-Shells .. Can Quantum-Mechanical Description of Physical .. On the Interaction of Electrons... Absence of Di usion in... Theory of Superconductivity Ground State of the Electron ... Simpli ed LCAO Method for... On Gauge Invariance and... Linear Methods in Band Theory Stochastic Problems in... Crystal Statistics Special Points for Brillouin-Zone A Model of Leptons Considerations on Double... Localized Magnetic States... E ects of Double Exchange... Dynamical Model of Elementary... Forces in Molecules Motion of Electrons and Holes in... Signi cance of Electromagnetic... Coherent and Incoherent... A Simpli cation of the Hartree-... Absence of Ferromagnetism... Coherence in Spontaneous... Neutron Di raction Study of... Theory of Dynamic Critical... Quantum Theory of Cyclotron... Absence of Mott Transition Field Dependence of... Scaling Theory of Localization: E cacious Form for ... Theory of the Role of Covalence Special Points in the Brillouin... Electronic Properties of... Atomic Shielding Constants An Approximate Quantum... Indirect Exchange Coupling of... Unitary Symmetry and Leptonic... New Method for Calculating... Transition Temperature of... Forms of Relativistic Dynamics A Relativistic Equation for... Diatomic Molecules According... Pseudopotentials That Work:... E ect of Invariance... Relaxation E ects... Neutrino Oscillations in Matter On the Behavior of... R-Matrix Theory of ... Theory of Brillouin Zones... Disordered Electronic Systems Spontaneous Emission... Magnetization of Hard... The In uence of Retardation on ... Nuclear Constitution and... Correlations in Space and Time... The Dipolar Broadening of... Tunneling Between... Reciprocal Relations in... I. Norm-Conserving Pseudo- potentials Ferromagnetism in a Narrow... Lepton Number as the Fourth... Reciprocal Relations in II. Radiative Corrections as the... Intensity of Optical Absorption... Uni ed Approach for Molecular... Mach's Principle and a... Weak Interactions with Lepton-... Linear Magnetic Chains with... Dynamical Model of Elementary... Symmetry Behavior at Finite... Magnetization of High-Field... Theory of the Motion of Vortices... Axial-Vector Vertex in... Random-Field Instability of... Spin Echoes The Quantum Theory of Optical... Magnetic Properties of Cu-Mn... Exchange and Correlation in... ...Contribution of Excitons... Dynamic Scaling of Growing Interfaces In ationary Universe:... Statistical Theory of Equations... The Inelastic Scattering of... E ect of Correlation on... Nucleon-Nucleus Optical-Model... The Mechanism of Nuclear Fission The Threshold Law for... Conservation Laws and... Role of Meson Current in... Cyclotron Resonance and... The Structure of Electronic... Gauge Invariance and Mass. II A Theory of Cooperative... Solution of the Schroedinger...

  12. Kohn by wrong+un · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of the many reasons Kohn is highly referenced is due to the Kohn Variational Method* which is used in scattering calculations. A large number of papers have been written on scattering theory.

    * The Hulthen Kohn variational methods are a family of variational principles based on the stationary properties of the reactance or Kohn matrix K. :-)

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  13. Witten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Possibly of interest is the physicist Edward Witten. He's arguably the most famous string theorist. He won a Fields medal, which is like the mathematical equivalent of a Nobel Prize. Beyond his numerous original contributions to string theory, field theory, and gravity, he more recently started the so-called "second superstring revolution" leading to M-theory.

    In fact, based on a study of papers published between 1981 and 1997, he was the most-cited physicist in the world: in that period, he published 138 papers, with 23,235 citations: each paper he published was cited an average of 168 times. (The next closest to Witten was the semiconductor physicist Gossard, with 16,994 citations of 419 papers.) Most physicists would be overjoyed to publish one paper cited over 100 times.

  14. CS Rankings by ravydavygravy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's something kinda similar for CS papers, curtosy of the excellent citeseer:

    http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/articles.html

    Dave

  15. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2

    The only part of a citation that matters is what it does for your Erdos Number.

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  16. bad data? by abiessu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "...the number of citations times the [average citation age]..."

    It seems to me that this nullifies the comparison in some regards. If you rank by this number DEscending, you get a few old papers with a lot of citations... possibly just because they're old. If you rank by this number Ascending, you get just the newest papers without significant numbers of citations. It might be better to rank by either total numbers of citations or "the number of citations *divided* by the average citation age", and use a DEscending rank. This way, recent works get a 'fair' (or 'fairer') comparison against older works.

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  17. Re:This is not so new by Rob+Carr · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's very similar to the "journal impact factor" which has been in use in medicine for years.

    The similarity is what caught my eye. "Impact Factors" have had an interesting effect on medicine: fighting has increased for the "right" journal to publish an article in seems to have increased, tenure, salary, and position can be affected by ranking, and I suspect it's had undue influence on what is researched. As Niven would say, "Think of it as evolution in action." Evolution, unfortunately, has a nasty habit of getting caught in local minima or trapped by past choices.

    If this type of ranking catches on, physics will experience similar effects - both good and bad.

    BTW: I had a copy of a VH1 joke in the draft of this article, but I cut it out. I'm glad - it works far better as a department. Short and funny always beats a long setup.

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  18. Collect Them All! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dang, makes me wish I hadn't traded my Kohn collector card for all those Hawking and Einstein cards with the action photos. :-(

    And I just got another Sir I. Newton card. Drat!

  19. Feynman by daniel_mcl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He's famous at least in Pasadena (where he taught at Caltech for several years); there are photographs of him all over the place and even a Feynman collage on the wall of a clothing store.

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  20. Re:Noone understands! by bobhagopian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually, special relativity was widely read about. The only problem was that it was published in, I think, the Annals of Physics (the actual title is German).

    Einstein's GR, however, was much less widely read, even though its importance was widely recognized. If somebody published a paper in quantum mechanics in the 1930s, a lot of people read it because their work was contingent on it. GR, however, just sort of popped out of nowhere, and since it hadn't existed before, Einstein's future audience was still in graduate school.

  21. Bah... by PrvtBurrito · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These kinds of surveys should be left to the "Best places to live in america" and "the richest person in the world" lists and kept out of science. The quality of a paper does not make the scientist. This may be why Hawking is not on the list (I'm not a physicist/I don't know). That said, if scientists are evaluated only on the merits of their most significant papers we will all start to write "to the one paper" and science will suffer. Some scientists are very careful and disseminate their research through a series of papers, or even a career. The DNA paper (watson+crick) in biology would most certainly be the most significant, are either of them the most significant? I don't believe so. (I realize crick recently passed away) Perhaps the best use of informatics would be to do an analysis of physicists CV's. I think you'll find that there is more to being a scientist than publishing a good paper.

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    1. Re:Bah... by antispam_ben · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you'll find that there is more to being a scientist than publishing a good paper.

      I perhaps agree, but I have the impression that "publishing good papers" is the key to a scientist having a good career.

      Aren't papers the main output of scientists, similar to the tagline "A Mathematician is a device which converts coffee into theorems"?

      I really want to believe that "there is more to being a scientist than publishing a good paper" but I'm having a hard time thinking of what that "more" is. Rightly or wrongly, research and academia encourage this with their "publish or perish" attitude.

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  22. Textbooks... by ramk13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure it would be neat to go through and read a lot of these papers, but it's going to be very hard and very slow and you are going to have to have tons of background material at your side just to get the most basic meaning from them. I can't imagine reading papers in my field and getting much meaning from them before I went to college.

    IMHO, if your goal is learning, you'd be much better off with some good textbooks. I know a textbook isn't as glamorous as reading the most cited papers in physics, but you'll make way more progress towards learning your area. There are some really good textbooks out there in most fields. And after getting through a few good textbooks you'll be able get through a whole lot more of the glamorous papers.

    If you don't know where to start, just find your favorite university's web site and skim syllabi for the classes that interest you. Even better would be to peruse through MIT's Open Courseware, or even registering for classes at a local CC. All of course, if you aren't already headed to an undregraduate degree...

  23. Kohn, unknown to the general public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Come on. Who hasn't heard of Koooooohhnnnnnn!

  24. Obviously a bad measure by hung_himself · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The only conclusion that can be drawn from this "study" is that counting citations is a terrible measure of the relative merits of a paper. It may be OK for comparing average to good papers but obviously fails for evaluating the absolute best discoveries. One simple reason is that because more papers are published today you will get more citations of recent articles - esp since the older ones are established as "fact" and often not cited. If he had done something like normalized for the number of papers being published at the time weighted for how often the offspring were cited, it might have worked a bit better

    This type of analysis, while useful for bureaucrats who need simple, if inaccurate metrics, is still dubious. The most cited papers often turn out to be methods papers e.g. how to run gels rather than those with the most import.

  25. Re:Feynman Rev.Mod.Phys.20:367-387,1948 missing? by apsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    They left out review papers - RMP is all review papers, as are occasional papers in the other journlas. Review papers have very distinct citation histories that would completely mess up this sort of analysis (and yes, they are generally much more highly cited than regular papers).

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  26. Also DFT by DarkMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Density Functional theory owes a lot to Kohn. He didn't come upwith the idea (that the properties of a system can be defined by the location and density of electrons), but he was involved with almost everything to turn it from an interesting idea into a useful theory.

    Because he (along with Sham) provided the Kohn-Sham equations, pretty much every paper that does anything to DFT (as oposed to things with DFT, but even then, many do) cite one or two of his papers.

    The reason DFT kicks arse as a calculation scheme is that it is proven to be able to be as good as any other method. It's also cheap to calculate, because it is localised (you only need to examing the vicinty of an area to calulate, as opposed to QM theories which require youto compare a spot with everything. Repeat (for both DFT and QM) for all points).

    It, like all such methods, has it's foibles, but a good DFT schema (it's actually a class of methods, rather than a specific single one), can be as good in computational chemistry as things that take 2 to 5 times as long.

  27. Serious methodology bias by k98sven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For example, while I am quite familiar with DFT and have read most (if not all) of the Kohn papers mentioned in the article, I would not have guessed he would have placed so high.

    I'm a quantum chemist myself. I have to say I wasn't that surprized at all.

    If you look at the list of Most cited chemists John Pople is #2. Basically everyone who's contributed to Gaussian is up there.
    (Note to non-chemists: Gaussian is the most used quantum chemistry software)

    All these lists are strongly biased towards method-developers, since they get a citation from every paper which uses their method. However, it doesn't necessarily mean much though.

    I personally wrote a program which a lot of people use, yet it doesn't really do anything that remarkable. It was just more user-friendly than the competition. So I did put in for a (crap, of course) publication out of it. Unsurprizingly, it's the most cited paper I've written. And the one with the least scientific value! :-)

  28. What I thought was striking by zwalters · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Was the disparity between the areas you'd consider important if your only source of information was popular science (ie, most people until their couple years of college) and the areas considered important by scientists themselves. For example, my scientific "grandfather" (advisor's advisor) Ugo Fano wrote a tremendously significant paper that got ranked here at #3. Yet I'd never heard of the man before grad school.

  29. Re:Stephen Hawking not on the list. Not surprising by rishistar · · Score: 2, Funny

    And sitting in Newton's chair no less. Go figure.

    Newton had an electric wheelchair with a speech synthesiser? Man, that guy was way ahead of his time.

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