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Hiptop/Sidekick Sequel Unleashed

powerline22 writes "After years of waiting, the second Hiptop (or Sidekick, depending on the carrier) has been unveiled to the public. After the terrible hardware reliability of the first version, the second one, manufactured by Sharp, looks a lot better, with longer battery life, built-in camera, more buttons, better radio, new software features and more. Also, according to T-Mobile, sync is going to finally be here real soon now. There are reviews at CNet, over at PCMag, and at MSNBC." We recently covered leaked Hiptop II photos.

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  1. Good luck getting your data out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For years their synchronization solution has been vaporware. It exists, but it hasn't been released. They keep saying "any month now"...

    If you buy one of these things, start learning now how to write a screen scraper. It's the only way to get your data if your phone ever breaks.

    I'm wishing the next Treos will just get a browser as nice as the SK's. Then they will be a great solution.

  2. Sharp is exactly a touchstone of quality... by lingqi · · Score: 5, Informative

    Let's see:

    My Sharp phone (DoCoMo SH251i) died within 3 monthes of me recieving it. Exchange for new one. died again within 1 week. Exchanged new one - still kicking but the battery life has become quite questionable.

    My Sharp Electronic Dictionary: keys become non-responsive after about 6 monthes; the hinges are almost gone, and the letters SHARP has been falling off one by one, first to read SHAP, and then SHP - I think if it gets to SH in a few weeks I will write "IT" beside it.

    As a comparison my NEC phone had never had *any* problems including my stupid action of plugging it (100V device) into a 220V socket. My Seiko dictionary is holding up quite well with about double the usage recieved on the Sharp, etc.

    Just some ancidotal evidence...

    --

    My life in the land of the rising sun.

  3. I just don't get it.. by Powertrip · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I guess I just don't understand the target market for such a device. It's quasi-push email support isn't really corporate-ready (The inablility to directly connect to POP or IMAP servers stinks IMO, what do you do if you want to use it on another carrier down the road?).

    Besides, this thing looks HUGE to me, not exactly a svelte device to slide in your pocket or clip to your belt.
    Ok, so maybee it is a cheap Treo or Blackberry, but if you are buying a device for robust email access and PDA functionality, then the extra money spent would be well worth it, wouldn't it?

    Even as a gaming machine, the Nokia N-Gage would blow this thing away... not to mention the QD.

    Maybee i'm too old.... :)

    1. Re:I just don't get it.. by powerline22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who's it designed for?

      Me. I'm a kid in high school without any need to access my 'corporate email'. I can, and will IM people wherever. The biggest thing, however, is the web browsing ability. I found my way to a party at this girl's house that i didnt know the address of, only her name. so i did a whitepages search, used mobile mapquest to get there.

      Of course, on the way there, I remembered that I was at her house once fixing her dad's computer, and put her address in my cell phone. I could've scrolled to her name, clicked 'map this location' from the address book.

      The Treo 300 is a good compeditor, and has some advantages over the Sidekick, such as thousands of apps. however, it doesnt have the backend proxy which compresses and reformats webpages so its a lot faster.

      Gaming? I don't care for it. It sucks up battery life. If I want gaming, i'll get a GameBoy. More apps on a platform that was designed for gaming.

    2. Re:I just don't get it.. by quixotal · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This product is huge in the deaf community. It hits the sweet spot with the price and features. My mother is deaf and she has one along with all her friends and co-workers.

      It is true that the quality on the SK has been terrible. My mother is on her third or fourth one.

  4. Too Connected? by Jaden42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there such a thing as too connected? This is just a personal opinion of course, but sometimes I wonder if we are driving ourselves out of our own privacy and personal sanity by making ourselves always available all the time, no matter where we are. If I require a device which always tells me where I am supposed to be when, what kind of life am I leading?

    I work for a company which produces software used by hospitals, and I am required to be available 24x7x365 in case something goes wrong. They pay me well for what I do and I enjoy the work, but I've spent the last 3 years in the "most connected" job of my life and sometimes I feel like I can't escape.

    What ever happen to returning a phone call or an email the next day?

  5. Sidekick 2 .. no software, so what's the big deal? by martinbogo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sidekick, mark 1, suffers from having a fantastic java based architecture.. and -zip- all for software.

    In fact, at first all the ringtones you could want were free. A few months later, the SAME ringtones cost anywhere from $.99-->1.99!

    One of the most useful applications, an ssh client/terminal was also free.. and now costs $4.99.

    The carriers are afraid to deploy software, especially T-Mobile. Software updates are few and far between.

    Things I would have liked to have seen on the sidekick2? Oh, simple things like an SD memory slot, on-device synchronization of contact information, bluetooth (it's funky to hold and have a conversation with)... oh .. and if not a touch screen at -least- a less awkward way to dial numbers.

    Oh well. Danger has yet another cute device, but if all we get is a digital camera out of it? what's the point.

    Nice going, Danger. Try again. Maybe the design team will do ACTUAL MARKET RESEARCH next time, and get it right when the sidekick gets cubed.

    As for now, the existing device should probably be crushed .. and cubed.

    -feh-

    --
    "Don't worry about the problems you have in mathematics, I assure you mine are much greater." - Einstein c.1919
  6. Danger creepy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Danger seems like a very creepy company. They immediately snapped up the first viable online discussion forum devoted to the Sidekick, and have controlled it almost from day one. They apparently control many of the other Sidekick related sites and photo blogs by giving free stuff to the compliant site owners and nothing to the naughty ones. I've heard about ops in #hiptop even bragging about getting stuff from Danger. Basically legal bribes, if you ask me. If you watch their behavior it seems to be what you would expect from a company where lawyers make most of the decisions. Any company that would build a platform where an upgrade means free applications are removed from the device, has a very disturbing set of ethics. I could go on but it's not worth that much time. Danger creeps me out.

  7. OK, let's see... by absurdist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No Bluetooth.

    No sync.

    No world standard GSM.

    No storage slot.

    But we DO get yet another new, hip, happening crappy camera. Just once, I wish someone in the pda/phone/mobile attachment would get it right. It's not about how hip the damned thing is. It's about how functional it is. If Danger (or Handspring, or Sharp, or whoever) could get it right, I'd only have to carry one device on my belt instead of three. Please, God, Treo 610. And none too soon.

  8. Better off buying an N-gage... by ronfar623 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Using a Symbian series 60 device (3650, 7650, N-Gage, etc...), would probably provide a lot more flexibility. That coupled with the fact that you can buy an original N-gage for around $100 factory reconditioned, IMHO, makes the Sidekick pretty damn unattractive. I had seriously considered buying one before settling on my first smartphone (Nokia 3650), and I'm glad I didn't waste the money.

    My N-gage, however (original, not the QD, which is basically a more expensive downgrade) is just about the best money I've ever spent. MP3/AAC player, FM radio, USB interface lets you mount your memory expansion card like a pen drive, full featured web browsers, IM clients for any network, IRC, telnet/SSH, ebook readers, interactive maps, tons and tons of games (Symbian, Java, and N-gage, all way more playable with the nice directional pad), and that's just to name a few. It's my electronic Swiss Army-Knife. 'Course you do look like a complete jackass talking into it edgewise...

  9. treo vs side kick by jford235 · · Score: 5, Informative

    this guy has a pretty good side by side comparison of a Treo 600 and 1st gen side kick.