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Google IPO Problems Surface

manavendra writes "The BBC is reporting that Google has admitted it may have breached stock market laws in the US, while CNET says Google may have run afoul of securities laws when it doled out millions of shares to employees and consultants over the past three years, according to a document filed Wednesday with the Securities and Exchange Commission."

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  1. It's not going to cost them that much... by garcia · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't huge news or anything. They found the mistake, theya re going to buy back the shares, it's going to cost about 25 million to buy the shares back.

    25 million out of their on-hand cash reserves isn't that much.

    1. Re:It's not going to cost them that much... by Undertaker43017 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Which is why, I suspect, most people won't take them up on their offer. The article states any shares not sold back to the company will be registered, and then tradable. So it may cost them less than $25 million, provided no one sues, which I'm sure someone will....

  2. Too Bad by cephyn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For all the brilliance of the Google tech guys, it seems their accountants are pretty overwhelmed. I've heard some criticism of the way the IPO was being handled by some financial folk, but I wrote it off to the Old Guard fearing that which they did not understand. Now it seems that Google really does have problems with their bookkeepers. Its too bad. 8(

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    Moo.
  3. Why sell them back? by idesofmarch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe I am missing something, but why would anyone be willing to sell their shares back at a fraction of what they would fetch on the open market?

  4. Dear Google: by NealokNYU · · Score: 5, Funny
    To our friends at Google:

    SEC
    U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission Laws

    So we know they could find the laws at least... So what happened?

  5. The real story is the media interest by Everyman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google mentioned this snafu in their original April 29 SEC filing, and said that they would offer further details on the rescission before the IPO.

    Now they have, and the media plays it like it's some sort of scoop.

    The real story here is not that Google screwed up (that happens regularly), but that the Google teflon is wearing thin in the media.

    You can only play reporters as puppets for a few years, and then they get tired of your spin and start biting back. There will be a lot more negative press in the coming months.

  6. Google's SEC fililng by ecklesweb · · Score: 5, Informative

    No that anyone RTFA, much less supplemental information, but for historical purposes here's a link to the specific document in the Google SEC filing that talks about the "recission offer":

    Form S-1 Registration Statement

    This section in particular is a good summary of what they did.

  7. The current scuttlebutt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's an unsubstantiated but strong and almost-believable rumor floating around the valley right now that Google doesn't really want to do that well in their IPO because they'll lose a lot of their key employees who are fully vested.

    Also, this is beginning to sound eerily like AltaVista. All they need now is a competitor with better technology and that's pretty much it for them.

  8. Only if they accept the rescission offer by Mr.+Sane · · Score: 5, Informative

    To put it simply: When a company has a unregistered private share offering to non-qualified investors (essentially non-high net worth, or "unsophisticated investors") they are required to get a waiver from the "unsophisticated investor" that they are willing to participate in the risk of investing in an unregistered offering.

    The risk is that there are not the same corporate disclosure requirements for unregistered offerings as there are for registered offerings.

    In the event that the company wants to go public at a later date, they usually provide rescission offers to these investors, which allow them to cash before the risky public offering.

    Most rescission offers are optional, and in the event that the investor declines they will sign an additional waiver that says they are going along for the ride.

  9. Isn't an overvalued IPO "evil"? by astrashe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've always loved google, but this sort of bugs me.

    I think I can predict the flames -- the market decides what the value is, I don't know that the stock will go down any better than the investors know the stock will go up, the google people deserve to get rich, and all of that.

    But I remember the dot com days (as do most people here, I'm sure). I think that we're going to see a massive transfer of wealth between unsophisticated small investors who are doing more speculating than investing, and the sharpies running this IPO.

    It seems to me that the geek community has never come to terms with exactly what happened in the dot com days, and how dishonest and damaging a lot of the financial shenanigans were. A lot of guys who were ring leaders -- guys like Jeff "profits don't matter" Bezos -- are still respected and admired.

    You can say a lot of bad things about MS, and I'd probably agree with most of them. But they never screwed their investors the way that almost every open source IPO did. That's always something that's left out when people talk about the software morality play here.

    I don't see why people see this as a good thing for the tech industry. The only way IPOs will be good, over the long run, is if the investors make good returns. With this valuation that's impossible. People are going to get screwed, just like the old days, and it will just revive the bitter taste in everyone's mouth, and make the next IPO that much harder.

  10. Recission Offers; Wall Street's Hatred of Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The way recission offers work is: (i) company has done something technically wrong in offering securities, (ii) company offers to remedy this by buying back shares at or above selling price and (iii) persons who refuse buy out offer are legally deemed to waive their right to sue based on the original wrong. Since the recission offer price, though above the original offer price, is below the proposed IPO price, no one will accept. Therefore, this should result is basically no loss to Google.

    Google, because it is one of the few big post dot-bomb tech IPOs, was able to compel Wall Street into accepting an auction process that will net the underwriters about 2% of the offering proceeds, versus the almost universal 6 to 7%. Because of this, Wall Street hates Google and investment banks have been feeding the media a constant stream of FUD against the Google offering (which the media, getting advertizing dollars from investment banks, is eager to accept).

    Bottom line: (i) Recission offer no threat to Google. (ii) Don't look for the business media to say anything good about the Google offering.