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Olympics to Have Live Online Coverage, But Not For Americans

Rytsarsky writes "According to this AP story (mirror), live video from the Olympics will be viewable online. However, 'the footage will be highly restricted to protect lucrative broadcast contracts, which are sold by territory - $793 million paid by NBC alone. Web sites must employ technology to block viewers from outside their home countries, so U.S. Web surfers won't benefit from the BBC's live coverage. They'll have to settle for highlights posted after NBC broadcasts, which are already largely tape-delayed.'" Interestingly, this AP wire story was picked up by CNN.com (it was at this URL and this URL), ran for a few hours, and now has been removed - I guess CNN didn't think it was newsworthy. *shrug*

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  1. Live For Americans with Tivo by stecoop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Will the Ruling help Tivo owners across national boarders?

    1. Re:Live For Americans with Tivo by roger_and_out · · Score: 4, Informative
      I really feel sorry for you Americans. It was my misfortune to be staying in NC during the '96 Olympic Games. After the luxury of the BBC's coverage, what I got to see from Atlanta was severely limited and very censored. I say censored because if a sport didn't have an American competing in it, or the American competitor was not doing well, THEN IT DIDN'T GET SHOWN.

      OK, so the BBC's output is heavily UK biased but that is understandable and expected. But,the BBC covered minority sports as well as the main ones. The coverage went out over two channels. There were hundreds of hours of LIVE coverage. (Almost ALL the US coverage was from tape and heavily edited.) How many of you from the US realise that there are eighteen hours a day of action from the games almost every day?

      Was I glad to get back to the UK for the last three days of competition? Oh yes!

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  2. I guess CNN didn't think it was newsworthy. by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 4, Funny

    They were right.

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  3. This is what Open Proxies are for by gorbachev · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just use an open proxy in Europe and you'll be wathing the games live as well.

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    1. Re:This is what Open Proxies are for by gorbachev · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's why you check in advance whether the open proxy reveals the originating IP address or not.

      If the proxy is slow, use another one. I do it all the time.

      My home country's laws about alocohol advertising used to require advertisers to block all access to websites advertising alcoholic products produced in my country to the residents of the country. All foreigners could access the sites all they could. It really didn't take long to find an open proxy outside the borders to check out what was on the site (wasn't worth the effort).

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    2. Re:This is what Open Proxies are for by carpe_noctem · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You laugh, but I've done this before. The last time I did it was the first day of the Iraqi War (II)... I had to go to class, so I couldn't very well watch the news coverage, so I dropped on over to cnn.com's ircd, where an ircbot with a closed-captioning->text program streamed the news broadcasts. It was a pretty easy way to get the news when I didn't have access to multimedia internet....

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  4. Should this be YRO? by ShortedOut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should we let Ad companies dictate not only what we can or cannot see on televison, but what we can, or cannot access via Interent?

    These ad guys go to far, and, of course, the media will cover up stuff like that. Free press my ass.

    1. Re:Should this be YRO? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Should we let Ad companies dictate not only what we can or cannot see on televison, but what we can, or cannot access via Interent?"

      Seeing as how they're paying the bills...

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    2. Re:Should this be YRO? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Well, if that's your attitude, don't come complaining about any perceived "conservative" or "liberal" bias in the media."

      I don't complain about it, though I both agree and disagree. I think you're right, but the whole point of news reporting is to be fair and unbiased.

      Money corrupts. Can't help that.

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    3. Re:Should this be YRO? by Orne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate to be a cynic, but I think the whole point of news reporting is to attract your attention to those crucial 8 minutes every half hour... the commerical sponsors.

      What happens inbetween commercials only exists to get you to turn to their channel... after all thats why (1) products like TIVO scare the crap out of them for its ability to hide commercials, and (2) product placement in the shows themselves allows commercial time to blend with content time. Hell, CBS was running programs about books that the parent company published, and calling it news... And after all, why are the news readers so pretty... so you'll tune in.

      This is also why I believe news reporters tend to become politically biased over time towards their local markets... it is their job to retain viewers/customers, and so you preach to your local markets. The political landscape is strongly correllated with urban concentrations, as are the "big" markets. The "old" big 3 broadcast media meets the needs of the cities, with its liberal leanings. Those living away from urban areas have to rely on cable and satelite, which "new" big media promptly cornered the market, and tilted their content towards their libertarian/conservative consumers. The people like like Jennings's leanings will tend to flip on ABC, and ABC gets viewers to watch its commercials, and those of the other leanings will flip on Fox, and Fox gets viewers for its commercials. Companies win, educating citizens loses.

  5. MLB.com by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    MLB.com does this for their game broadcasts too. I'd gladly pay for a subscription so I could watch the game when I'm at work or on the road.

    The point of watching it on the web is that I don't have a TV available, so I'm willing to put up with the crappy quality, high bandwidth, etc. of an Internet broadcast.

    If I had a TV, I'd watch that instead. Blackouts are meant to help ticket sales, or to push people into watching the TV station that's paying for the rights. But if TV isn't an option, then I go for radio or internet.

    1. Re:MLB.com by Finuvir · · Score: 4, Funny

      Where do I return my geek card?

      You can give it--as well as all the other contents of your wallet--to me, the Wallet Inspector.

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    2. Re:MLB.com by andyrut · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Now everyone thinks I can't even handle HTML.

      Nah, I just thought you were getting gradually more and more agitated in your post. I was waiting for the all caps to break out at any moment.

      I share in your disapproval of blackout restrictions for MLB.TV. If it's being broadcast on television, what difference does it make what medium I choose to watch it on?

      If I watch a game on FOX (which I can pick up on a TV antenna for FREE) or on my computer (a service which I pay for), I'm going to be seeing the exact same content - INCLUDING the commercials. What does FOX have to lose by having the game rebroadcast over the Internet?

  6. torrents? by sp00 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can we expect to see these available for download with BT? Almost every other TV show is...

  7. Deep Throat said ... by RWarrior(fobw) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Follow the money."

    At least since Los Angeles in 1984 (which is as long as I've been following it), it hasn't been about sport or competition or peace.

    It's been about bribery, profits, and raking in the dough.

    So does any of this surprise us?

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    1. Re:Deep Throat said ... by Santana · · Score: 5, Informative

      It has always been so since the begining

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      All the myths around Olympics ("to win is not important", "amateurs only", "the torch", "the olympic spirit") was invented by Pierre de Coubertin who founded the modern Olympic Games

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  8. It's all about the money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where's the time that the Olympics were about sport. Now it's all about money. Look at the corruption scandal which was brought out by BBC, the numerous cases of doping discovered recently (in cycling, athletics, soccer,...). And now this, people cannot even have Free access to images about the event, just because some people again want to get more money out of it. It's sad.

  9. Thieves and Liars by bs_testability · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow.
    Usually I support the pirates and get pretty beat up around here.
    Now I'm looking at a full page of posts detailing how to infringe on these distribution rights.
    Is this a major flip-flop or are these posters different from the usual crowd around here?

    stick it to the man!
    free the bits!

    1. Re:Thieves and Liars by badasscat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is slashdot. \. is Liberal, it leans to the left.

      Slashdot is anything but liberal, as you'd know if you ever read any of the gun control arguments that seem to break out in completely unrelated threads.

      Slashdot users are generally libertarian. Which is a completely different thing from "liberal". Libertarians believe government has no place whatsoever in their lives, which is why you get stories like Google's mismanagement of their IPO listed under the "your rights online" tag. This is pretty much the exact opposite of what liberals believe. If anything, libertarians lean a lot more towards the conserative side, since both supposedly believe in smaller government (though in practice, most so-called "conservatives" only believe in smaller government in areas where it suits them - not, for example, in a smaller military or in cuts to social security).

      Now, I am not a libertarian, I am a liberal (and btw, we liberals have nothing against big business, just big business that breaks the law, ie. Microsoft or Enron). Obviously, not all Slashdot users are the same. But the general gist of things here is usually that all government meddling in technology is bad, which explains the calls of "censorship" in this thread (even though government is not even involved) or the complaints about "rights" being infringed (as if watching TV is a "right", which implies that it's either something you're born with [as in an "inalienable" right] or it's something written into law, or both). As a liberal, I often feel extremely out of place here in actually not always arguing against government regulation of various things if it makes sense - I evaluate everything on a case by case basis. But what business does, as long as they're not breaking any laws, is business.

      I personally think this whole Olympics thing is pretty damn stupid from a business standpoint, and not at all helpful to the Olympics as a whole (interest in the Olympics in the US has been dropping since the 1980's, partly because of the shoddy live TV coverage). But my "rights" are not being trampled on here; just the long-term viability of the Olympics themselves. Once these games are over, I expect to once again see a lot of bitching about the poor TV coverage, a lot of bitching by NBC about the low ratings and a lot of bitching by the Olympic committee about the lack of interest. If you ask me, none of them have anybody to blame but themselves.

  10. Go slashdot! by glassware · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alright slashdotters! You just solved Katie Jones' domain name dispute. Where are you going next? To the Olympic coverage problem!!!

    1. Re:Go slashdot! by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 5, Funny
      Alright slashdotters! You just solved Katie Jones' domain name dispute. Where are you going next? To the Olympic coverage problem!!!
      How the hell are we all going to fit in the slashdot cruiser?

      This just in, I-90 has been slashdotted!
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  11. proxies w/o PROXY_FOR support by cjsteele · · Score: 5, Interesting

    so, what's to stop a high-speed provider in the UK from setting up a squid proxy with the "forwarded_for off" line in the config? I mean, come on, really this is utterly retarded.

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  12. Your own fault for having that revolution by jellybear · · Score: 5, Funny

    Otherwise, maybe you could watching BBC live olympic coverage online too.

  13. This is really scary... by The+Breeze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And no, I'm not talking about the Olympic story.

    Since when does a CNN story VANISH?

    I hate to put on the tinfoil hat, but CNN is a division of Time/Warner, one of the monstrously-huge media entities trying to get so-called "intellectual property" the same status as "real estate" - they want a piece of "intellectual property" to be eternal, like land, where it can be kept - and milked - forever, without any expiration.

    They clearly want to profit forever off all works that are created, and they want to use technology to do it, and they want to force the use of technology through legal means. In short, they want to sell you a license to think.

    Now, let's look at CNN: this is a gigantic news organization that is the main source of news for millions of Americans that seems to have yanked a relatively innoculous story about "intellectual property."

    I've heard of CNN changing stories, and moving them, but I've never seen once totally removed - and a search of CNN for keywords in the original AP article finds nothing.

    It is very clear that the MPAA, RIAA and other gigantic entities that want much more restrictive laws on copyright and viewing licenses would prefer to have these laws passed without reference to the American public.

    They don't want people to know what they are doing until it is done.

    Now, we have a relatively tame story about Olympics, but just interesting enough to perhaps make Joe Six-Pack think for a moment, "Hey, why to those Frogs and Brits get to see stuff that I have to pay for?"

    Is it possible that this is why the story was removed?

    Could CNN be filtering news that could irritate the American masses into seeing that the Fair Use Doctrine, Limited Copyrights and a cornucopia of other rights currently enjoyed by Americans are slipping away?

    That scares me.

  14. Re:1250 hours of coverage? I don't need the net. by Moofie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What you think sucks is probably what I want to watch.

    I don't give a damn about track and field, but just TRY to watch a reasonable amount of coverage for cycling.

    Same with the winter olympics. They should change it to the "Figure Skating and Snow Skiing World Championships", because that's all you ever see. More bobsled. More luge. More biathlon.

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  15. More likely NBC didn't want people to know.... by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Since they have their fingers into most news sites, they said, "Get that off the news!!! We don't want people to know this because someone will figure out a way around it."

    I mean seriously, all you need is another geek in another country to put up a proxy server on a high speed connection and we have video. Or just stream it on-line themselves with some of the P2P streams out there.

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  16. Re:1250 hours of coverage? I don't need the net. by rusty0101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's been my observation that of the 1250 hours of broadcast Olympic 'coverage' that the average US citizen has available to them during the Olympics, less than 10% of that time is actual event coverage.

    I will grant that I really do not want to see each elimination heat of the 1600 meter relay. I suspect that watching a bunch of guys and galls standing and shooting at targets for hours at a time would probably get old as well. (For a lot of people anyway.)

    What gets really old for me however is watching 2 hours of interviews, "background" material, someone pacing an athlete during his or her training in the years before while some narrator discloses how this athlete fought tooth and nail from some long ago disaster. All leading up to a 10 minute tape delayed presentation of the athlete finishing whatever event he or she was a part of, with a 5 minute tape delayed award ceremony with the (you probably never heard of this person more than 3 hours ago) now celebrity athlete being one of the three medalion winners (or part of one of the teams on the stairs.)

    Of course that two hours of 'history' is part of four hours of time, the other half of the time being spent providing ad space for the Olympic sponsors. After the half hour spent for the "main event" (10 min of event, 5 min of Awards, 15 min of ads) you might get part of a half hour to wrapup that 'highlights' some of the other events that happened that day, mostly to explain how whichever US athlete was in the event did that day. (But only if they came in close to or as a medalist, and only if whatever producer happens to be running the show that night thinks the event might interest someone with his or her own narrow view of what the Olympics should be.)

    1250 'hours' of 'coverage' is probably Wonderful TV, but what the US population sees is hardly coverage of the Olympics.

    Then again, that's my opinion.

    -Rusty

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  17. No tape delay on CBC by KenAndCorey · · Score: 5, Informative

    CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) normally shows the Olympics without a delay. I know this television channel is often available in the United States, especially those near the Canadian border.