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Mass Migration/Bughunt For Thunderbird Tuesday

maggeth writes "mozillaZine is spreading the word of a plan to have a mass migration of users from other email clients on this coming Tuesday in order to find any remaining bugs in the migration process. 'Bring your Outlook, Eudora, Mozilla, Outlook Express, and Communicator e-mail clients with you and join us on IRC for a day of testing the Thunderbird migration features. The goal is to get as many testing migrations performed on as many clients and as many operating systems as possible and to discuss and record all the problems in Bugzilla.' Read the full article for more details and for the IRC location."

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  1. It'll fail by dtfinch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    to import folders with a '/' in the name.

    To lazy to jump through the hoops of bugzilla.

    1. Re:It'll fail by BrookHarty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm using thunderbird on gentoo sparc linux with my exchange server via IMAP. Works great, not 1 single problem.

      Of course, I like the look of Evolution better, shiny buttons..

      On windows, been using thunderbird since it came out. (Netscape->Mozilla->Thunderbird) Been pretty easy, except that one time I told thunderbird to delete that profile I wasnt using. DOH!

  2. Too slow and no YEnc! by applef00 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I tried Thunderbird, but as a newsreader it sucked. Didn't handle multipart messages very well at all and had no support for YEncode (I don't care that it's not an official standard--it's a defacto standard which is extremely widely used and that's what counts). Without YEnc support, it's basically useless to me as a newsreader. It was also just too damned slow.

    I love Firefox, though! Great browser. Small, fast, etc., etc. Thunderbird just needs some more work before it's really there, IMO.

    1. Re:Too slow and no YEnc! by Magila · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't think thunderbird was ever meant to be a alt.binaries.* downloader, there's plently of other readers made specificaly for downloading warez from usenet.

  3. Thunderbird on TheOpenCD by HenrikOxUK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rumor is that Thunderbird and Firefox are hidden away somewhere on the soon to be released version of TheOpenCD. This special edition (1.4.1) will be handed out to an unsuspecting public at 17 different locations around the world (and counting) on Software Freedom Day, August 28th along with a custom version of Knoppix. About 10.000 copies are being produced. The new edition might even be out by Tuesday ...

  4. Netscape? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It just blew my mind that Thunderbird has no option for importing a Netscape 4.x address book. WTF? I had to download Netscape 7 to convert the addressbook to LDIF and then import it into Thunderbird. Now that's just not right.

  5. cross platform offline e-mailing by ongeboren · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm actually interested in reading the same e-mails on my dual-boot machine (windows + linux). It's very time consuming to have to switch to linux to find some important e-mail, because you have it in your linux e-mail client.

    As mozilla is a cross platform application, it should be able to work with the same offline e-mails.. lets say stored in a fat32 partition, so we could write to it from linux as from windows.

    Any suggestions how to do this?

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  6. Palm Sync by cloudscout · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If only it could sync with Palm and/or PocketPC. I could get a lot more people to switch to it.

  7. Better support for going to and fro would be nice by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just finished moving my mom to Thunderbird... from Mozilla mail. Some of the folders came from Kmail (standard unix mailbox format imported into Kmail from Outlook, it's a long story), and I used a CD to move them, meaning they had the read-only bit set without me realizing it (I forgot, sue me). Still, for reasons I cannot fathom, Mozilla Mail stopped displaying mail in about half the folders, even after clearing the read-only bit. The messages where there (I could see them in Thunderbird), they just didn't show up in Mozilla. I got everything working under Thunderbird, and tried copying over the Mail folder, no dice. Heck, on one of the folders I can see one message and nothing else. It's a real mess. At the momemt I've got her mail shortcut launching Thunderbird instead of Mozilla mail, but it really bugs me, since don't know if the mail is gonna stop working.

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  8. Re:Thunderbird Rules! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    OK, I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

    spam armoring is more trouble than it's worth, now how the hell am i supposed to figureout your email address if it's "digtemail@@@email...com" WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? is it digtemail@email.com ?
    Uh, yeah. Believe it or not, every single email address on the planet has the same general syntax, and anyone with working cognative ability would figure out that since all addresses have only one at symbol, the above would probably also only have one dot. You answered your own question, anyway, by CORRECTLY DECODING THE ADDRESS. Way to make an argument, smart guy.

    and Thunderbird really does STOP spam, not just filter it, if you read my article on my website, showed how to change the options of the preview plane, i bearly get any spam at all, thanks to thundebird, and the very little spam i do get, thunderbird usually filters.
    The mail is still being delivered to your mailserver and into your inbox. It is not 'stopped'. Retard. It's a fucking client. It does not run on your server rejecting connections. Learn the difference between a CLIENT-SIDE APPLICATION and a SERVER-SIDE DAEMON before you start typing. Also, while you're figuring that out, please learn to spell. I can "bearly" understand you.

    Finally, thanks for being a piece of shit and helping to clog the fucking internet even more with spam by allowing harvesters to get your address.

    Posted AC because I know some moderator with some sympathy for the dumbass will mod me down.

  9. P.S. by FlutterVertigo(gmail · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As I write this, there are 653 gmail auctions underway. It looks like people have gotten bored selling one-offs so they're creating vanity ids & selling those; e.g., "BillAndHillaryClinton@gmail.com".

    n.b. I have nothing to gain from all of this, I'm just handing out information.

  10. Re:Migrated from Mozilla to Thunderbird... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about Thunderbird Windows to Thunderbird Linux?

    Why is there not a way to import Thunderbird mailboxes? You can try moving the profile by hand, and in doing so get a completely unusable email client.

    I would like to "Export to archive", and giving the options for archive email folders [option to skip junk], address book, pop/smtp settings, Signatures, all to a *single* .tgz. Leave out the "profile bits" like theme.

    This file should be importanble cross platofrm by all Thunderbird clients.

    All it would take would be a single xml file to "describe" the contents of the tar file, where you have most [cross platform bits] of your profile directory.

  11. Keep in mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Keep in mind that Thunderbird still has no option to display the email as it is received, without markup of any sort. It uses graphical quote markers (instead of the standard ">") changes *texttext* to *textext*, and grays out signatures and links it believes are part of signatures. This causes half the messages in a long email digest to be unreadable if someone in the middle uses the standard "-- " sig delimiter.

    Until there are options to turn off this text markup and show me the email as it was received in plain ascii, it isn't worth my time. (And no, clicking "view as source" every time doesn't count.)

    Pity, because otherwise it seems like a great email client. However it dropped the ball on the important "show the email" function and went straight to the bells and whistles that some of us don't want...

  12. Why Not to Switch...yet by blahbooboo2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am a big fan of Mozilla Firebird, and I am starting to play with Thunderbird. HOWEVER, what makes me hesitate using Thunderbird is that once you go to Thunderbird and if you don't like it you can't go back to your old program. Why? Because there is no export ability of your messages and address book, nor do any other major programs import these two items from Thunderbird. Please correct me if I am wrong as I would love to give Thunderbird a serious try.

  13. Re:Migrated from Mozilla to Thunderbird... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Good idea, but I'd like to take it a step further and make a "Browse to Profile" button so when I have a dual boot machine I can mount the Windows partition and use the same profile for both installs.

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  14. Outlook to Thunderbird migration needs work by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I tried that on my laptop. Found I set Thunderbird to the default email client, and it needed Outlook as the default email client in order to migrate.

    The Outlook Calendar, Tasks, and Notes apparently did not migrate. I do not think that Thunderbird has support for those yet. Which leaves me stuck between using Thunderbird and Outlook.

    Also missing in Thunderbird is the virus vault feature of AVG Antivirus, which works with Outlook, but has no support for Thunderbird.

    Also missing was the Intergration or synching with my Cell Phone, PalmOS device, and iPaq, I fond Thunderbird was missing these as well.

    Also missing was integration with my Timex Datalink watch, no support for that either.

    Thunderbird was not able to migrate accounts I use in Hotmail with Outlook XP(2002). I heard there may be an external program for that to convert Hotmail into POP3, but from what I read of it, it was still in beta and not properly tested.

    GPG using Engimail or whatever it was called, did not work properly. I am not sure what went wrong, but I am unable to encrypt and decrypt messages. I cannot get GPG working with Outlook either, and I have to fall back to PGP. I have the latest version of GPG, but it says it cannot find my private keys, despite me loading them, and creating a new one just in case, it still reports they are missing. Fbog! I think this is more of a GPG problem than a Thunderbird one.

    Should I ever decide to read/write a MS-Exchange account, will Thunderbird ever support that?

    Thunderbird junk mail treats each account seperately. I use Spambayes with Outlook which learns from all the email accounts and can filter spam on account B by learning from account A.

    Also the email rules only work on one email account, I have to create duplicate rules for each email account (I have four POP3/SMTP accounts) to filter mail just right. Also I am confused as to what SMTP server it uses to send mail. I am not yet sure how to pick one, it seems to use the same SMTP server for each account, this may be seen as possible Spam by Spam filters, until I can figure it out.

    So I am stuck with Outlook until Thunderbird can properly address these issues.

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  15. What about us? by Enaku · · Score: 1, Interesting
    The mozillaZine article has left out which timezone they are reffering to by Tuesday (although I'd assume Pacific time or whatever Americans use). They also left out an aproximate time it will begin also, So, I'm here in Australia wondering when it's going to actually start.

    Does anyone have details or have a way to figure out the time for people outside of the US?

  16. Pegasus by rueger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well to start with it appears that there no way to move several years of Pegasus data into Thunderbird. In terms of features, it seems to have less than Pegasus, as well as lacking some things that I would really like - such as an integrated hot-syncable calendar and easy filter setup. (which I admit Eudora does pretty well).

    My guess is that Thunderbird will eventually approach the feature set that is available elsewhere, and I may move over to a Firefox/Thunderbird combo, but it'll be a while yet.

  17. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I like how you're comfortable with the occasional exploit, as if "being better than Outlook Express" were a redeeming quality.

  18. Tell it it Mulberry by anser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use Firefox for browsing of course, and I keep checking and trying the various Mozilla.org mail/news client releases, but so far nothing touches Mulberry for ease of use and functionality with my IMAP mail stores.