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AlphaGrip's 3D Keyboard Ready For Pre-Orders

bic2k writes "AlphaGrip has opened their doors to pre-orders this past week. (Previously mentioned here.) Press release can be found here. They look a lot like an xbox controller, but contains 42 buttons and a analog stick. Shows up as a standard USB keyboard and mouse. Has a USB expansion slot, which will possibly be used for wireless connectivity. They claim typing speeds of 50 WPM or better after a month or so. They're waiting for 5000 pre-orders before going to manufacturing, so it may be awhile before they actually ship these."

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  1. First impression... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's hard to see from the image, but shift-drag looks like it could be a b*tch.

  2. Like so many alternative keyboard, it will have by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    - a great design
    - very clever shortcuts
    - decent to great keying speed after training
    - a real potential to help people with RSI
    - a manual to teach the user to "key fast in less than xxx weeks without effort"
    - an absolutely insane retail price
    - zero chance to make any sort of dent in the entrenched PC-104-type keyboard market

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    1. Re:Like so many alternative keyboard, it will have by killjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "zero chance to make any sort of dent in the entrenched PC-104-type keyboard market"

      Why?

      Because most people are not touch typists. They want to see the keys their are hitting.
      Most people don't want to learn a new layout and then become flustered when they attempt to use their computer at work/home/friends house or whatever.
      Most people end up needing to press weird control sequences of their favorite program and unless the keyboard is very carefully designed these types of two and three letter combos are harder on fancy keyboards.
      Most people have no real desire to pay over a hundred for any keyboard no matter how revolutionary.
      Most people have occation to type one handed. Whether it's because you have a phone in your hand, or otherwise :).

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    2. Re:Like so many alternative keyboard, it will have by JWSmythe · · Score: 2, Insightful


      I think you hit it with #1..

      Most users have no clue where their keys are. They hunt and peck.

      Most of us are used to what we use. The first time I got on a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard, the bottom row was (is) split in the wrong place for the way I type. I think it was the "B" key on the wrong side. I touch type, but aparently I don't do it in the absolutely correct Microsoft way. :)

      I was looking at alternative keyboards a while back. It would be nice to have one that's "better" than a QWERTY keyboard, but really, I'm not going to carry a keyboard around to every machine I work on and plug it in, nor am I going to buy a keyboard for my home, office, and laptop.

      If their product is so great, they should be bundling it with something else, and effectively giving them away to at least get into the market. People are resisitant to change, and won't just go spend $100 on the spiffy-keen new keyboard.

      It would be nice if they had more details on how it types. I didn't search the entire site, but I browsed around, and besides lots of PR fluff, I don't see something that says "This is where the letters are". Where's the [ctrl]-[alt]-[delete] chord? How do I [alt]-[f1] through [alt]-[f6]? And, how much does it weigh? After holding it for 8 hours, are my arms going to be tired? Probably.

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  3. Discrimination, yet again.... by stox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Those with large hands may not achieve the same typing speed as users with small to average sized hands."

    Some of us have large hands. Will someone please build a keyboard for us!

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  4. Re:How Fast? Fast enough. by JVert · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If I can type 50 wpm without taking my hands off the keyboard to get to the mouse i'd be very very happy.

  5. 50 WPM! by 1337+Twinkie · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Up to 50 WPM!" Wow!

    With a standard keyboard, I can type 65+ and some people can go to 100+ WPM. And QWERTY was designed to slow people down!

    1. Re:50 WPM! by Ahnteis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      QWERTY was more designed to minimize jamming (by keeping word-adjacent letters apart) then to slow the typist.

    2. Re:50 WPM! by prockcore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And QWERTY was designed to slow people down!

      No! QWERTY was designed to spread out the letters. Two letters close to each other typed at the same time could cause a jam, so they spread common letters out to reduce jamming.

      QWERTY was designed to speed people up.

  6. The good thing about 104-type keyboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The good thing about the standard keyboards: you can type one-handed or even one-fingered. 50wpm is fine, but I could care less. I want a keyboard that lets me do my work while I'm drinking coffee and eating my donut. With these other keyboards, I must use both hands. Worse, this one makes me use the mouse with my right hand only, sometimes I like to switch to my left hand, to relieve some stress.

  7. Re:Fifth generation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    god google is making people lazy google is not the sum of all human knowledge, searching google for 2-3 terms does not constitute "everywhere" maybe I'm just pissed because I see this every time another assignment is due and someone disputes their grade because I marked them down for missing something important to the topic and they give as their excuse "but that wasn't in the results from google"

  8. Why would touch typists switch? by msblack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I already type over 50wpm on a QWERTY keyboard. Why would I want to switch? My desk is already equipped with an under-surface keyboard try to prevent RSI problems. For /. readers and techies, the best keyboard change would be returning the CONTROL key where it belongs: next to the A key. How many people use the CAPS LOCK key more than the CONTROL key? At least DEC got that right with the VT-100. I'm still using an old Keytronic keyboard because nobody manufactures keyboards with a DIP switch to swap the CAPS and CONTROL keys. It still drives people nuts when they use my keyboard.

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  9. Re:How Fast? Fast enough. by prockcore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I can type 50 wpm without taking my hands off the keyboard to get to the mouse i'd be very very happy.

    There's no way you can type and move a mouse at the same time. Anyone with a trackpad on a laptop can attest. My right thumb doesn't do anything when typing, but I cannot possibly use it to move the mouse while typing.. even though I can reach it just fine.

  10. Painful by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems like with this "keyboard" you'd have to have your fingers curved and somewhat tensed to hold the controller at all times. This would seem to me to cause more discomfort than a regular keyboard where for the most of the time, most of your fingers are relaxed.

    This seems to be a recurring problem with many "alternative" keyboards like chording keyboards and such. Particularly it seems to be a problem with keyboards intended to be more "mobile". So a tip to you keyboard tinkerers out there: design your keybaord so that your fingers are lax and fully extended while no keys are being pressed.

  11. Re:How Fast? by Afrosheen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Typically, after hunting and pecking for years, users remember where each key is and can develop consistently quick and accurate typing skills (all the while glancing at the keyboard). 90wpm may be stretching it, but I don't doubt that the H&P method can be perfected after awhile.

    Then again, years of practice take the 'hunt' out of it, so you should just call it pecking.

  12. Here is why I probably won't try it.... by StressGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    * In my experience, joystick/joybutton mouse is almost as bad as a touch pad for doing CAD.

    * In practice, my hands are not constantly on the keyboard. I'm referring to documentation, looking things up, drinking my coffee, etc. This looks like I'd have to carefully put it back in its stand everytime or else wind up hitting unwanted keys.

    It's a good try, but I don't think it suits my needs. Keep trying though, I still want something I can use on an airplane.

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