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Jerry Falwell Wins Dispute Over Fallwell.com

setzman writes "According to this article from CNN, conservative minister Jerry Falwell has succeeded in shutting down a web site run by a gay activist on the domain fallwell.com. The judge said it was 'nearly identical' to the registered trademark 'Jerry Falwell' name and was likely to be confusing to Web surfers." (This was a Federal case, held in the 4th Circuit Court.)

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  1. All I can say is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Praise Jessus. (Not to be confused with Jesus)

    1. Re:All I can say is by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny

      I still love remembering an old joke about names:

      A burgler breaks into a home, and is quietly walking around, finding valuable things to take.

      "Jesus is watching."

      The burgler freezes, looks around, doesn't see anything, and continues.

      "Jesus is watching."

      The burgler freezes again, and mutters, "Who's there?"

      "Gabriel."

      The burgler's flashlight comes to rest on the source of the sound, a parrot. He grumbles, "What kind of idiot names a parrot 'Gabriel?'"

      "The same idiot who named the Rottweiler 'Jesus.'"

  2. Google cache of home page by artemis67 · · Score: 5, Informative
  3. 'Nearly identical' by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The judge said it was 'nearly identical' to the registered trademark 'Jerry Falwell' name and was likely to be confusing to Web surfers." (This was a Federal case, held in the 4th Circuit Court; the judge held that the disputed fallwell.com was "'nearly identical' to the registered trademark 'Jerry Falwell.'" )

    and the 'helpful' 'little' snippet by the editor was 'nearly identical' to what the submitter already said in the original writeup.

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  4. Re:A good ruling by goopie · · Score: 5, Insightful
    While yes this was more about Trademarks than Copyrights, it does seem that the operator of the site chose the name specifically to take advantage of the name `falwell` and to counter the rhetoric that Jerry Falwell spews out. Quoting from the article
    Hilton said the site's operator, Christopher Lamparello, intended to divert people from the Jerry Falwell Ministries' Web site "with the direct intent to tarnish or disparage"
    It seems that the ruling of the Judge was centered around that rational rather than simply viewing this as similar site names. So while I may not approve of the tactics nor the message of the Falwell ministry, I would view this as a matter of established trademark law as I understand them. Also, based on the site content of fallwell.com as described in the article, it does seem that he used the site to generate revenue (links to his books on Amazon, etc). gOOpie
  5. Smart not to go to the 9th Circuit by karb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Headline : "Court rules religious websites illegal."

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  6. fallwell.com vs fallwellsucks.com by landoltjp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree that using another entity's name to divert traffic for your own means is a violation, what about the use of derivations that show a defined antagonistic slant? For example, what if someone hosts www.fallwellsucks.com?

    I've heard of companies going after people that host www.<entity>sucks.com sites, but I think that they most definitely be allowed since the name is clear in its differentiation from, and bias against, the entity.

  7. It's reasonable... by mratitude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    However folks fall in the religion fueled debate on homosexuality issues (gay marriage, gay "normalcy", etc) this was a middle-of-the-road ruling from a court that appears that didn't side with either of the agendas being pushed.

    Like cyber-squat efforts (registering domains like "pepsi.com" when you're not affiliated with Pepsi at all) overall, this was a targeted effort by someone with an agenda. The intent was to squat their agenda on any internet traffic by "hugging" search criteria and even simple mispellings in a url. Their agenda to do this was clearly spelled out.

    I expect the people running Drudge Retort to be nervous over a ruling like this.

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  8. Jerry's running a business by DanielMarkham · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's selling his brand of Jesus. Been in business for a long time.

    Now if somebody capitalizes on his name to lure people on a site that hurts his business, that's unfair competition.

    JerrySucks.Com would be fine with me, as would JerryIsALoser.com. But not what the guy used. It's clearly outside the bounds.

    A more interesting question would be: what if there were another person named Jerry Fallwell who, for instance, believed that Jesus came from a UFO? Could HE register the site? Wasn't there some guy, Mike Rowe, who registered MikeRoweSoft.com last year? Does the first public person with a name get it for all time?

  9. Re:A good ruling by goopie · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Hrm... I recall the http://www.katie.com/ fiasco, and in that case, I think the right result was finally achieved. The publisher blinked.

    This case though seems different.

    You have an individual who disagrees with with Jerry Fallwell concerning homosexuality and gay rights. That's all good. If this were merely a parody or disenting view website I'd think that it should fall under free-speech guidelines. But the guy had links to Amazon for a book he published. The arguement then becomes that this was not an issue of free speech, but rather commericially motivated.

    Is this the correct reasoning, I don't know. But based on what I read in the article, I don't think the judge erred in his decision. The arguements presented to the judge seemed to be that the use of falwell.com was a deliberate attempt to use the etablished name of Fallwell in an attempt to drive traffic to his site for the intent of selling more books. Asked to base a decision on that regard, and asked to consider this under trademark law, I don't think the judge really could have decided otherwise.

    Was this an attempt by Jerry Fallwell and his ministry to silence criticism of his preachings? I'd say most certainly, and ethically, that sort of attack against falwell.com was wrong. Far better would have been to ask the owner of falwell.com to have a link saying something like `if you meant to go to blah blah blah`. But then again, from what I have seen of Jerry Fallwell, reasonable might have been too much to hope for.

    I should have been more precise in stating my views originally.

    gOOpie

    And I should have remembered to add break-tags in my original message... darn lack of coffee!

  10. Re:A good ruling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Care to point to where in the bible America is mentioned at all?

    I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed. (this one I like)

    God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.-- Rev. Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev. Pat Robertson agreed, quoted from John F. Harris, "God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

    The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.
    -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev. Pat Robertson again agreed, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001)

    And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, "You helped this happen."
    -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, quoted from John F. Harris, "God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

    I sincerely believe that the collective efforts of many secularists during the past generation, resulting in the expulsion from our schools and from the public square, has left us vulnerable.
    -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, after the 700 Club broadcast wherein he had blamed civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, speaking to The New York Times, quoted from Dick Meyer, "Holy Smoke," CBS News (September 15, 2001)

    I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist, [but America's] secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture ... the result is not good.
    -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, backpedaling amidst criticism of his statement blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, quoted from John F. Harris, "God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001)

    Pat, did you notice yesterday the ACLU, and all the Christ-haters, People For the American Way, NOW, etc. were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress as they went out on the steps and called out on to God in prayer and sang "God Bless America" and said "let the ACLU be hanged"? In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time -- calling upon God.
    -- Rev. Jerry Falwell, justifying the breech of Constitutional Separation of Religion from Government while blaming civil libertarians for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to which Rev. Pat Robertson again agreed, quoted from AANEWS #958 by American Atheists (September 14, 2001)

    I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!