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Congressional Budget Office Studies Copyrights

gorbachev writes "C|Net is reporting that The Congressional Budget Office has published a study on digital copyright issues. The study basically recommends not changing the copyright legislation in favor of any particular stakeholder, including consumers or lobbyists. It's refreshing to see a governmental agency coming out with a study on copyright issues that appears to take consumers' concerns into consideration." Granted, this is merely the CBO, not Congress itself, but it is one of Congress' first places to turn to for information.

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  1. That's nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...now how about looking at software patents?

  2. duh? by wyldeone · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The study basically recommends not changing the copyright legislation in favor of any particular stakeholder

    uh, duh? Our government is pretty pathetic if it needs a study to tell it to be fair and balanced.

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    1. Re:duh? by gid13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I fail to see how "fair and balanced" equates to "not siding with either consumers or lobbyists".

      As far as I see it, consumers should take precedence in almost all cases, and copyright is no exception.

    2. Re:duh? by Daniel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Go to sit-down restaurants, the portions have absolutely ballooned in size, most restaurants serve entrees with enough for 2-3 people, and that's just dinner alone, not counting appetizers and desert, I have no idea how people can eat that much.

      You're looking at it from the wrong angle. Think "three meals for the price of one". :-)

      Daniel

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  3. Not quite accurate ... by URSpider · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The study basically recommends not changing the copyright legislation in favor of any particular stakeholder, including consumers or lobbyists.


    That's not entirely accurate. The preface to the study states that the GAO, by definition, does not make any policy recommendations. Thus, the lack of recommendations in the study does not mean that the data contained in it won't be used by one side or the other to push for change.


    Gotta read those source documents before submitting!

  4. Might have been even better... by rben · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they had pointed out that copyright terms have been extended to the point where they are ridiculous and that maybe that trend needs to be reversed.

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  5. Nothing to see here, move along by harpoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So what?

    This means nothing, they change nothing and make no concrete recommendations. The merely recommended a "set of principles" with the goal of "avoiding being tied too closely to past practices"

    Speaking of real change check out: On Drawing Lines in Copyright Law
    about copyright, RIAA and the cirsumstances leading to 321 Studio's "Death of a 1000 Paper Cuts"

  6. Patents? by DaveInAustin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we get a CBO recommendation on patents too? Patents were supposed to give people an incentive to invent. Instead, they are a disincentive. Anyone who actually creates something worthwhile risks being sued for infringement of frivolous patents.
    - Raise the application fee so that the patent office can do a decent job. - Shorten the length of the software / business process patents (better yet, ban them).ation fee so that the patent office can do a decent job.
    - Shorten the length of the software / business process patents (better yet, ban them).

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    1. Re:Patents? by wyldeone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      - Raise the application fee so that the patent office can do a decent job.
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      I must dissagree on this count. Raising the application fee puts patenting solely in the domain of the corporate r+d labs. It would keep garage inventors and other small time inventors out of the process.

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    2. Re:Patents? by Alsee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Raise the application fee so that the patent office can do a decent job.

      No, no need to raise those fees. All you need to do is stop the siphoning off of those fees.

      Polititians found that they could fund unpopular or pork projects without needing to get a new tax passed by skimming "profits" from places like the patent office. Of course any alledged "profits" are then unavailble to pay patent examiners. And of course those "profits" available for skimming can be arbitrarily expanded by reducing the amount paid to examine and process patents. Those "profits" are also expanded by encouraging more patent applications. You can encourage increased applications by increasing the range of what can be patented and by lowering standards to get an application approved.

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  7. Where were these guys in 1996? by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I would totally agree, if this were published 8 years ago. "Classic" copyright was just fine.

    But I'd recommend rolling back some of the goofy stuff (especially 1201) before I'd call for maintaining the status quo. The status quo is already unbalanced by relatively recent thoughtless meddling.

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  8. Consumers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's refreshing to see a governmental agency coming out with a study on copyright issues that appears to take consumers' concerns into consideration."

    It would be more refreshing to be acknowledged by the government as a citizen and not an entity that merely spends money.

  9. Copyright Classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Classic" copyright was just fine

    They coked you.

    In the late 20th century, mankind considered getting rid of copyright, in favor of the "information age." The powers that be, introduce New Copyright (DMCA). Everyone hates it. So a little while later, they can introduce Copyright Classic and totally rake it in, thanks to the nostalgic backlash. Instead of advocating copyright reform or abolishion, you're advocating a return to the old ways. Got you.

  10. So let me see if I got this straight... by intnsred · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the report says do nothing. Ignore the fact that the public domain is slowly drying up as Corporate America constantly lengthens copyrights. Ignore the fact that we have college students getting sued by giant mega-corporations for swapping a song with some friends. Ignore the issues of concern and don't make any major decisions, right?

    So in a nutshell, this report is sort of like the 9/11 Commission's report: "Nothing seriously wrong here, let's just talk about it to placate the public and then the public will go back to debating which Superbowl commercial is better..."

    1. Re:So let me see if I got this straight... by adjuster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So the report says do nothing. Ignore the fact that the public domain is slowly drying up as Corporate America constantly lengthens copyrights. Ignore the fact that we have college students getting sued by giant mega-corporations for swapping a song with some friends. Ignore the issues of concern and don't make any major decisions, right?

      And that's where we need to come in. If these things really are important to you, talk to other people about them, organize an effort to communicate with your lawmakers, and try to affect some change.

      I speak with anyone who will listen, IRL, about issues of "intellectual property" and copyright. I think we need "Joe Sixpack" to understand that the things he does today, w/ his VCR, aren't going to be possible in just a few years. Cases like the Wisconsin high school 'prom' that gave out burned CD's tell me that the public is really under-informed, and there are opportunities for education.

      The RIAA / MPAA / copyright cartels are using this ignorance to brainwash the public into believing that the system as it is today-- the one that force-feeds consumers crap, strips them of their fair use and first sale rights, and defauds artists and creators of their negotiated compensation-- is the only one that can exist. We need to be informing people that current system of copyright isn't "just how it is", and that they have a say in changing it.

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  11. Ok then.... by LordZardoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the study does do is put into reasonably plain english (Or legal jargon that can be translated into reasonably plain english), the likely cause / effect consequences of various legal changes.

    If we do X, then Y is likely to happen, which in turn results in Z.

    Now all we need to do is come up with some sort of copyright scheme that manages to do all of the following:

    1) Provides the best possible benefit for consumers.
    2) Provides the most reasonable compensation for copyright holders.
    3) Causes the least possible harm to copyright holder, consumers, and technology creators.

    The problem with attempts to acheive the above goals, as I see it, is that 'best possible benefit for consumers' and 'least possible harm' is not guaranteed to be something that can be boiled down to a dollar value. Also, ultimately, the reasonable amount of compensation for IP is ultimately determined by the consumers who consume or not consume copyrighted works.

    So while this is far from providing any answers, it does help us arrive at the correct questions.

    END COMMUNICATION

  12. They got one thing right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They noticed that copyright holders have already gotten "something for nothing" from the consumers with the expansion of copyright terms.

    From the standpoint of equity, the effects of revising copyright law in favor of consumers of creative material would be to transfer control from copyright owners to consumers. However, for some incumbent copyright holders, losses suffered from diminished control over their creative works may already have been compensated, at least in part, by recent legislation that extended the duration of copyright protection.

    --AC

  13. Slanted wholly towards business interests by DMCA, by D4C5CE · · Score: 4, Insightful

    as copyright has become now that the legal landscape has so brutally been overturned to the detriment of consumers, "The study basically recommends not changing the copyright legislation in favor of any particular stakeholder."
    To put it in other words, "now that the power has been shifted solely to one side, just keep it that way forever."
    Fair and equitable, reasonable and well-balanced, huh?
    Certainly from a pigopolist's point of view, but I'm not so sure about how this status quo is supposed to benefit the rest of "us the people."

  14. The missing detail in this report. by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This totally fails to take into account transaction costs of the legal system and other copyright protections. You can create a legal system that always rules infavor of maximized efficiency--the goal of this paper--but only if you ignore the costs of that system. In reality, the costs of legal representation outweigh the both the value and cost of the vast majority of creative work transactions. If I write a book, and someone sues me for taking ideas from their book, the value of both our books is probably dwarfed by the salaries of the lawyers required to defend our claims. All this talk of "perfect price discrimination" is in economic fantasy land--a world of perfect information and costless legal systems. Indeed, one might wonder if the government economists have a vested interest in ignoring the costs of legal compliance.