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Open Source in California Government

catfoo writes "California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has recently posted the California Performance Review Report, a 2,500 page plan to overhaul state government and save $32 billion over the next five years. Part of the proposal: Open Source alternatives. Imagine that..."

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  1. Explore OSS Alternatives for Microsoft Discount? by kingbyu · · Score: 4, Insightful
    So are they trying to save money by using open source software, or are they only going to "explore" open source alternatives in order to make Microsoft desparate enough to give them discounts?

    Perhaps they saw what Testra did to get their discounts and they think they can save their money by doing something similar.

  2. Re:I Wouldn't Have Thought ... by finkployd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my experience, Open Source (while often associated with the left) seems to reach across all political idealogies. What is weird to me is that people keep thinking of it as communism and to me is it the purest form of democracy.

    Finkployd

  3. the waste in government (and large corporate) env. by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 5, Insightful

    there is such an incredible inefficiency in large corporations, especially governments. there are so many causes of this, it is hard to pick them, but here are just a few:

    1. "tenure". once you're on the job a few years, it's very hard to fire people. people realise this and slack off.

    2. "gotta spend my budget". if you don't spend this year's budget on something, somewhere, next year's budget will be less than this year's budget, regardless of what next year's budget actually needs to be. people realise this and spend money on non-essential things, to preserve their budget slice for next year.

    3. "follow procedure". often large places will have massive procedures for procurement, which end up doing things like making a hammer cost $100 to acquire, desktop computer costs skyrocket, etc.

    4. "workplace as a supply depot for employees". people take reams of printer paper home. it happens. ditto blank CD's, pens, you-name-it. computer monitors, desk chairs, all these things go home with people.

    5. "croneyism and nepotism". similar to situation #1, you have people who retain their jobs when they are not operating at a good personal efficiency -- or are even downright awful performers.

    To fix these things in government, all that is required is (1) absolute transparency of budgets. Every $1 which is collected from taxpayers must be accounted for somewhere. Hundreds of eyes seeing these budgets will find the waste very, very, very quickly. And (2) impartial performance review of employees. Get rid of or "fix" the lazy and inefficient employees -- they are destroying the system in ways that simple material waste cannot even come close to in comparison.

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  4. Re:Explore OSS Alternatives for Microsoft Discount by Trogdorsey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Either way, it will save Californian tax payers money. It's a win-win situation.

  5. Re:The Governator! by foidulus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not really sure it's the whole "Open source" movement they are embracing. It's more along the lines of finding the best tool for the job. Sometimes it's open source, sometimes it's closed. But I want my government to spend the least amoung of my tax dollars while still getting the job done. I honestly don't care what kind of software they are using as long as it's functional and secure.

  6. Somebody has to say it: by teutonic_leech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Looks like Arnold turns into the Terminator regarding the State's wasting of taxpayer's money on Windoooz licenses. I'm not a replublican, but he's got my vote on this one. Seriously, one can say a lot about Arnold being a Republican and all, but at least he's not one of those party-line drones I see on Fox and MSNBC all the time. Alongside with people like McCain (and few others who's name I don't remember) he represents the few remaining people who have their own personal convictions but don't engage in 'scorch-the-earth' practices daemonizing anyone who disagrees with them. Anyway, back to the real world, I have some taxes to accrue (which can be wasted on killing brown people in poor countries)....

  7. Re:I Wouldn't Have Thought ... by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can say that again. A really surprising move from a conservative government.

    How can you call the California government a conservative government? Just because Arnold is a republican? He's probably more liberal than some of the southern democrats.

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  8. Re:Not because he's good, but because he HAS to. by 8282now · · Score: 5, Insightful

    California's had a really serious debt for quite some time now. It's simply that the last administration was NOT DOING HIS/THEIR collective jobs that Arnold appears the "well-intentioned hero".
    THAT'S WHY WE FIRED DAVIS.

    In a time when there's so much incompetence in doing one's job, someone who DOES do their job looks like hero.

  9. This is why they voted for him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one actually believed that Mr. Muscle man had the training and experience necessary to fun the fifth largest economy in the world...

    They didn't vote for him because of his party affiliation either.

    He was perceived as being a real human, rather than another product of the political machine. Sheeple, for all their stupidity, are still able to recognize that successful politicians achieve their success by favor-swapping and compromise. This means that by the time any given politician arises to a position of real power, he or she is alreay so loyalty-laden that acting independently is outright impossible.

    Arnold has no such loyalties tying him down...so he can actually make decisions that benefit the majority and make sense. The fact that his own agenda is actually beneficial to the people at large is, IMO a Very Good Thing.

    $0.02

  10. Re:I Wouldn't Have Thought ... by Azghoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Big government is here so the only solution is... bigger government? Que?

    And I think the mental images of communism come more from, oh, let's say, every example of communism in the 20th century, rather than any mind-control conspiracies...

  11. I think open formats are even more important by anti-NAT · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm certainly an OSS advocate, that's all I run, and all I have run for the last two years.

    I do agree with using the best tool for the job in Government, be it open or closed source.

    However, I really think a prerequisite, in the case of close source being the best tool, is an open data format. It shouldn't be acceptable to have government, and therefore the public's data locked away inside a file that only one application can process.

    Yes, I know that OO.org can handle Word documents, for example. However, it shouldn't be necessary to reverse engineer the file format each time MS release a new version. That isn't an open data format, and so I don't think government should use MS word.

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