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Software for the Grass Roots

An anonymous reader writes "In February at the O'Reilly Digital Democracy Teach-In, technologists from the Dean, Kucinich, Clark and Kerry campaigns laid down arms to share tech plans while their respective camps were still battling it out in the primaries. A (private) list and requirements for fall campaign organizing ensued. Just six weeks ago, a few of the developers converged in San Francisco for a show and tell of their emerging free software tools. Today, the AdvoKit project was the first to tag beta, hoping to kick-start the campaign software revolution in time for November 2nd."

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  1. Grass roots, eh? by larley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm... I had to convince a friend that free software is a plausible notion, as he simply argued that "If people aren't paying for it, what incentive is there?" But then again, if you're working on free software, then you have some sort of desire... While if you're working underpaid in a cubicle, you wind up having a lot less drive than someone doing it purely for pleasure. I respect those who work on free software immensely...

  2. Re:Gimme a break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The GOP plays Big Brother for our own protection (becasue they truly care about us, the people), while the Democrats want to know our most intimate details so they can harm us (look into fluoridation of water to find out more), understand?

    One wants to prevent your wife from knowing you're cheatin on her, the other wants to help you score with the babysitter.

  3. We need less technology in politics... by John+Seminal · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "Our big concern was what's missing, what technological piece is missing to organize an effective campaign. Resoundingly, peop le across the country told us there was a special need for software to enable neighbor-to-neighbor activity--and that, ideally, it should be freely distributed, easy to use, and free."

    I disagree with this. I think we don't need more between the voter and the politicians, we need less. What I want to see is the politicians go door to door, meet people, talk to them. The more politics becomes some equation with all the consultants and marketing experts, the less voting will mean. Politicians will secure their base, do research to find out how to make the middle swing their way, and then give speeches to satisfy those people. More technology will just reinforce this new paradigm. And once this happens, the real power will be with lobbyists, the ones who can fund a candidate to have the best consultants and marketing.

    I would love to see a genuinely inspired person run a campagin going door to door, speaking passionatly about what they believe in (and not something scripted by consultants). I would like to see this guy/gal reject lobbyists and do it the old fashioned, grass roots way. Can it be done today, and still win? I think so. But to the uninspired who want the title/power/prestige of public office (and not the public service), they will take the easy way and do a media blitz.

    I will finish with one last question. Should it really cost 10 million dollars to run a "sucessful" senate campaign? Should it cost 200 million dollars to run for president? And how does that limit who can run? Only the wealthy? Only the well connected? What about Joe Sixpack who has some good ideas about making life better for the avarage american? Can he possibly run and compete?

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    1. Re:We need less technology in politics... by mec · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You can't change what other people (the candidates) do. But you can change what you do.

      Say you're interested in the race for congress. Find the campaign headquarters for the challenger. Call them up and ask where the challenger is going to be making public appearances in the near future. Look for the event you want -- a coffee klatsch, or a small club meeting, or a debate.

      Do the same for the incumbent. And do the same for any minor parties that you find interesting.

      If one of the candidates isn't going to any public events that satisfy you, write them a letter and say "I saw [your opponent] at [public event] on [date] but I haven't been able to see you anywhere. I like to get to know my candidates, so I'll be voting for [candidate who showed up and talked and answered questions] this year."

      Also, get out your checkbook. Give a couple of bucks to the candidate who shows up and you even halfway agree with. I'm not talking $1000, I'm talking $10.

    2. Re:We need less technology in politics... by JanneM · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What I want to see is the politicians go door to door, meet people, talk to them.

      Let's see, an american election period seems to be roughly six months - say 180 days, which comes out to 15552000 seconds (assuming the candidate spends zero time on non-candidacy stuff like sleeping). As a ballpark estimate, there are 75 million potential voters in that country.

      So, 75000000/1552000 is around 0.2 seconds per voter. If political campains are to be face-to-face, that does not leave a whole lot of time to inform each voter on the candidate's position.

      Say we economize, and run town meetings. On average, I would guess you can cover 100 people by one meeting. That would give you 20 seconds or so per meeting. Note that we do not subtract anything for eating, sleeping or travelling.

      I would hazard a guess and say that technological means of reaching out are pretty much necessary.

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    3. Re:We need less technology in politics... by bm_luethke · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "I would love to see a genuinely inspired person run a campagin going door to door, speaking passionatly about what they believe in (and not something scripted by consultants). I would like to see this guy/gal reject lobbyists and do it the old fashioned, grass roots way."

      The state representative for my district does this. When he first ran he stood outside our house and talked for a good hour or so - not imposing himself but because we talked back. He answered questions truthfully, even when it was obvious we believed opposite of him.

      I later saw him talking to neighbors up the street for the same amount of time who I know are politically opposite of him (and us). Interestingly enough, some of those later had his signs out in thier yard because they felt he actually cared and would at least do as he felt best for the state. Seeing that I agreed with well over 90% of his political beliefes I was a VERY happy camper pushing the button for him on election day.

      I would like to see it happen in a federal race but the area of coverage is probably too large for a true door-to-door this guy did.

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    4. Re:We need less technology in politics... by identity0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm sorry, how did you come to believe the technology was a barrier? Do you not realize that the internet is doing just what you suggest - bringing candidates closer to the people, removing the barriers between them and the citizens? How is Dean getting PayPal donations directly from the people at large worse than GWB or Kerry holding $2000 per head dinners? Just because the gathering of the elites is done in person and PayPal is done through the internet, PayPal is more of a barrier to the candidates? Dean was the closest thing to a winnable candidate who speaks from the heart that you had, and the old guard deestroyed him because of a media blunder - you want to perpetuate this by taking away the tools he used to get so close to the candidacy?

      The internet and other aspects of the computer revolution are probobly the closest thing to a democratizing influence to the system ever since the mainstream media became conglomeritized. A candidate like Dean would never have gotten as far as he was able to without the direct support of thousands of people pitching in through the internet. Through the internet, Dean (or Nader, or Buchanan, etc) can reach just as many people as Bush or Kerry. And with free software, that's one less hurdle to jump as a minor candidate.

      The internet *is* the grass roots. With it, a candidate can reach the public directly, without going through five layers of advisors and reporters and media.

      There are 250 million people in the U.S.(not all of them voters). There are two ways of getting your message out to 250 million people - a massive party's political machine and media campaign, or technology, especially the internet.

      It would be impossible to run a presidential campaign as you suggest without leaving out about 249 million people. How many people, pray tell, is your dream candidate going to meet door-to-door? Do you think a candidate physically meets even one million people during campaign? So in your search for a more "accesible" candidate, you end up leaving out the vast majority of the population - but hey, as long as it looks populist, right?

      Ironically, it's this childish wish for a candidate "among the people" that the media and campaign managers cater to. Look at every door-to-door meeting, "townhall discussion", and public speech given by the major candidates today - they're all fake staged newsbites, from the fake "Made in America" or "Mission accomplished" signs, the screened and vettted audience, canned jokes and focus group-tested phrases. All of it an attempt to look like they're in touch with "the common man". Your fear of technology is what's keeping these media blitzes going. I'd take a million screams from Dean before I listen to a mangled "speech" by GWB.

      As for your last paragraph - with a population of 250 million, that's less than $1 per person. Would you trust a candidate that couldn't raise at least a few million from the people who would be voting for him? He(She)'s going to have to get about 40 million votes, after all.

      And Joe Sixpack was never meant to be President of the United States. The Founders wanted the citizens to choose the wisest and most statesmanlike among them to be their leader, not settle for "the average Joe". Hell, there's even talk from the Republicans about Edwards not being "experienced", and he's a lawyer with 8 years in the Senate.

    5. Re:We need less technology in politics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      So, 75000000/1552000 is around 0.2 seconds per voter. If political campains are to be face-to-face, that does not leave a whole lot of time to inform each voter on the candidate's position.


      I believe John F. Kennedy was listed in the Guinness Book of records as achieving up to 300 words a minute in his political speeches. That figures out as one word per 0.2 seconds. Since you only need to convince 50.1 % of the voters to vote for you, the candidate actually has approximately 0.4 seconds per voter, and thus at JFK talking speed the candidate should be able to deliver two words to each voter.

      Two words should be quite enough to say for example: "vote me!", "I'm best", "Kerry's insipid" or "forget Bush". Even political agendas can be discussed: "lower taxes", "better healthcare", "strong defence", or "no abortion". So you see, in theory the plan is quite doable.

    6. Re:We need less technology in politics... by bear_phillips · · Score: 2

      Advokit and other packages are designed just for this. Advokit is basically a voter database. You load all of the voters into the database. The campaign folks can they say "print out a list of all voters on my block." You then go door to door, then later record your results back into the database (person A is a supporter, person be wants to volunteer, person see wants some more info etc..). It also helps people phonebank. A volunteer at his house can pull up a list of people to call, then record how the phone call went.

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    7. Re:We need less technology in politics... by Kayne_McGladrey · · Score: 3, Informative

      We need more effective use of technology in politics. Currently, most campaigns don't get it and are using cobbled together systems that break under load. Some background: I was Governor Dean's Legislative District Co-Ordinator in a suburban/rural part of Washington State, and responsible for contacting over 86,000 voters in under 10 months. At no point was Gov. Dean planning on visiting my area - Seattle gets all the politicians, but we're on our own out on the Eastside. My technology challenges were two-fold: organizing a team of thirty volunteers, and then doorbelling likely voters. The software provided by Gov. Dean's campaign was initially very late and very buggy, which is what most campaigns have. Instead, I settled on using a combination of OSS packages and integration with a proprietary mapping software package which was donated to me by the campaign. I wasn't real happy about the mapping software, but it worked. The reason we used this combination was that a politician doesn't need to (and realistically cannot) visit every door in a precinct, in a legislative or congressional district, or in a state. There are voters out there who are highly partisan and will still vote based on the letter D or R to the right of each candidates name on the ballot. The challenge on Gov. Dean's campaign was to get my volunteers in touch with undecided voters who voted regularly, but lived in areas where there could be as few as five voters per square mile. We did this by using some basic data analysis (on MySQL) of voter data and then geocoding the results for the mapping software. It worked, and even though Gov. Dean didn't win the caucuses, we turned out a record number of voters. Most campaigns don't grasp the potential uses of technology. I recently offered a free blog to the candidates in my area. I'd host it, publicize it, and pay for it - all they had to do was type on it. In small campaigns, it's very hard to get voters to so much as recognize the names on the ballot. However, the professional consultants - who get paid to be smarter than your average person - recommended against this. My rationale was that Google likes blogs, voters like Google, and thus the voters can easily find the candidates and see how things are going and what they're about. I support the development of open source political packages and may start working on one of these projects. Most campaigns don't have a technology budget and just cobble together some Access databases, some spreadsheets, and a quick website. A free software package which offers all those features and is under continuing development will easily surpass a Rube Goldberg collection of software.

  4. The License is *very* interesting by tpgp · · Score: 5, Informative

    The AGPL is a GNU recognized free software license.

    It's essentially a modified GPL - with a "running this software over a network constitutes distribution" clause.

    Very cool - I had no idea this was around - might be worth some Free Software developers jumping onto until GPL v3 comes out (which will have a similar clause).

    For those who have no idea what I'm going on about - read devchannel's explanation: Closing the GPL's distibution loophole

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    1. Re:The License is *very* interesting by tpgp · · Score: 3, Interesting
      So, if I run modified AGPL software on an intranet site, I have to release my modifications to the entire internet? What a puzzling license...

      According to the AGPL FAQ, no you dont:

      Q: How does this license treat commercial enterprise use over intranets and internal networks?
      A: Simply, if run internally to a commercial company, then the company isn't required to release source code back to the world. The license requires that if a user downloads the source they have the right to make improvements and not release these modifications. GNU GPL software in general addresses this issue the same way. If an employee has access to the source and has the right to make improvements, the commercial entity could probably view this work as work for hire and owned by the company and not have to be released outside.


      I'm sure if you understand how a company can use modified GPLd software internally, you can understand how a company can use modified AGPL software on its intranet.

      Not too puzzling at all really!
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  5. CivicSpace by acaben · · Score: 3, Informative

    Also worth checking out is CivicSpace, the new incarnation of DeanSpace, currently being developed by Civic Space Labs. They recently released a free (speech and beer) zipcode database, and are building in tools mimicing the "get local" aspects of the Dean campaign along with some really cool GOTV stuff.

    Everything is based on Drupal, and is very tech friendly....RSS feeds, iCal files for events, etc. It's syndication gone political and is damn impressive stuff.

    I built a few sites during the Dean campaign using the first iteration of the tools, and have watched them progress from there. It's definitely worth checking them out if you're looking to build a camapaign site for a candidate or a movement.

  6. Let me explain. LOL. by John+Seminal · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I'm guessing that you are a bitter Republican who most likely does not like this software because the liberals are using it?

    I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. I was critisizing how it is so expensive to run for office. If you look at history, it is the republicans who have been breaking records with the amount of money they raise. And it is the democrats that go into neighborhoods meeting people. How many poorer neighborhoods did Bush go into? Yet I remember Clinton going into ghettos shaking anyones hand who wanted to, and kissing little black babies. I am pretty sure Bush spent more time at $500 a plate fund raising dinners. To be fair, the democrats did it too. But wouldn't it be better if they spent that time with us, rather than giving a canned speech to their supporters?

    There is also the question of escalation and responding. If one side starts raising the amount of money they spend, the other side has to try and compete or they will lose. Same thing with tools. One side starts hiring experts to determine what makes the voters tick, and then customizes a campaign to tell the voters what they want to hear, not the real ideas the candidate has. What will the other side do? They will follow those methods or fear losing. And even if one side does something new, and it works, it will be repeated in following elections.

    Technology is good because it increases Democracy

    What makes you say this? Why is technology good for democoracy? Just because technology is usefull for some things, does it mean it is usefull for all? The problem with technology and politics is it is more easily maipulated than if the candidate was on your block, in front of you, talking with you. You can ask the candidate questions, view their body language. With technology they will sell you a politician the way McDonalds sells hamburgers. They will put up only what they want. The other side will try to smear them. And what are you left with? Do you really know the person?

    Hilary Clinton or Barack Obama could run, but they have no chance of winning. It's about winning isnt it?

    And while the ultimate goal is to win, sometimes it is about a messege. How popular a topic was the budget deficit before Ross Perot and his commercials. Remember the millions of dollars he spent so his same half hour commercial would be on all the major stations so he could show off his charts? Well, it had an effect. He did not win, but it forced politicians to do something. Because of him, Clinton balanced the budget. And while the republicans out there might say it was congress, the leader of our nation is always the president. He makes all the final decisions, which way to lead our country and what bills to sign into law.

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  7. Grass roots? by InternationalCow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More like Astroturf if you ask me. If I understand it correctly, the software is meant to tie people together in a way suitable to a political cause, specifically to raise money by judging from the AdvoKit introduction. Reading that, I'd say this is about raising money to finance these ridiculously expensive campaigns (to us Dutch, American politics sometimes seems to revolve around money and little else...) and not about furthering democracy. Tying people together into a pre-arranged framework with the sole purpose of raising money and/or support for a particular cause is not grass-roots, it's Astroturf. Or fund raising, take your pick.

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  8. Not enough Politicians by Trailwalker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The constitution originally called for one repersentative for every 30,000 citizens. If this had not been changed, there would be about 10,000 representatives today.

    I've watched the way elections work in states such as New Hampshire and Vermont where there are large legislatures and few voters. An aspiring politician can actually meet and talk with every voter. These states are well noted for low priced political ventures.

    There are fewer taxes voted when everyone in your district actually knows you, and can go to your door to complain.

    This also diffuses political power and makes it difficult for a small clique or boss to run the the legislature as a personal fief.

    The solution to the problem of communicating with voters is to have more politicians and smaller districts. Then the only solftware needed would be a few pairs of sneakers.

    1. Re:Not enough Politicians by TykeClone · · Score: 3, Insightful
      When the federal government starts getting into road and school issues - truly local things - then they're out of their area. If these kinds of things are limited to state and local governments (as intended by the framers of the Constitution) then we wouldn't need to worry about federal district sizes - the federal government should really not make much difference in a citezen's day to day life.

      The problem that we have is a bunch of elected officials (in city, state, or federal government) that need to be doing something - and doing something is often worse than doing nothing.

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  9. forclark.com by OoSync · · Score: 2, Informative

    Its still active and of the major campaign blogs it kicked major ass. It allowed all registered users to have their own blog, which became a very useful feature for individuals to post and retain community information.

    It also didn't moderate (except for particularly egregious postings) by removal of posts. It used the moderation system from kuro5hin.org (and was based on scoop), which let the users moderate posts up and down. It worked pretty well, and the community kept a pretty fair hand in moderating.

    When the Clark campaign was in full gear, it was the best of the major campaign blogs, by far. There was and is no comparison. And it formed a nice community that is still actively discussing things today.

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  10. Re:Grass roots? by Xoro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't that a perhaps obstructively cynical?

    You say: "the software is meant to tie people together in a way suitable to a political cause, specifically to raise money" -- what's wrong with forum designed to allow people who support a cause to organize themselves more efficiently?

    I spent a lot of time on a candidate blog this season, and thought it was a good experience. Moral support for activism, with a lot of discussion about what was working and what wasn't. I thought it was a very healthy experience.

    As for money, what are we supposed to do? In Holland, maybe you can just shout and everybody will hear you. Here there are 300 million people scattered across four time zones, plus AK and HI. You need mass media to get your message out. People don't contribute because they're snookered into it, they do it to help spread a message they believe in.

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  11. Interesting analysis, but by PotatoHead · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you forget group interaction; namely, rallys and such. Events such as these can spark discussion and help develop consensue that does not require one on one intreaction with every voter.

    The parent of your post was speaking to the human aspect of democracy being marginalized via technology. In that, I very strongly agree.

    If our decisions are actually going to mean something, we need to spend a little time discussing them in a very real way.

  12. Re:Grass roots? by bear_phillips · · Score: 3, Informative

    Where do you get that AdvoKit is a tool to make money? AdvoKit is tool to keep track of voter records and volunteers. AdvoKit can be used to find lists of voters in your area and to record results after those voters have been contacted. (ie, did they like my candididate, do they want a yard sign, do they want to volunteer, etc). It also keeps track of the volunteers so you can manage your campaign.

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