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3D Holograms Detect Fake Signatures

Roland Piquepaille writes "Several sources reported last week that a new technique that produces 3D holograms of handwriting could be used to detect fake signatures on checks, credit card receipts or other important handwritten documents. Here are pointers to Nature, Scientific American or BBC News Online. Instead of using 2D techniques to look at the sequence of pen strokes in a signature, this new method is based on 3D micro-profilometry which permits to translate the writing into an image showing dips and furrows of the sample so that anomalies can be detected. If you plan to imitate your spouse's signature, beware! Forensics have a new and very efficient tool. As an example, for the use of ballpoint pens on normal paper, the success rate was 100%. You'll find more details, references and pictures in this overview."

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  1. IBM did this in the 70s by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was at IBM yorktown Heights, the guy in the next lab over built a pen that had piezo acclerometers and pressure trnasducers built in. You got the time and pressure curves of the 2-d signature as it was signed. IBM never marketed it.

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    1. Re:IBM did this in the 70s by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yes it was a svelt pen built into a plexiglass tube. I'd say it was 3/8 to 4/8" in diameter and the height of a normal pen. Since they did not have a standard like blue tooth back then it had a thin wire coming out the back, though I imagine they would have replaced it with IR shortly or RF shortly. There already were RF mice (used for CAD and blueprint entry) availble back then. And I owned an IR remote control watch. So that technology was available too.

      at the time there was concern if it would be robust enough for the shop-floor enviroment. Since at that time IBM sold services as much as hardware, they always overspecked their gear so it would not break in the field.

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  2. Signatures are on the way out by Slotty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So obviously we all press down to the same intensity and the curves of our writing remain the same all the time! Screw signatures off soon it will all be done with biometrics. thumb print obtained & verified you are who you say you are.

  3. Extremely Interesting by Maxite · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is amazing, although I'm surprised by the fact that it isn't already in use *today*! Detectives already have known that when you write on paper, it creates a depression in paper. If you're writing on a note pad, for instance, and after you write your address on the sheet above of a bank holdup note, just lightly rubbing a pencil against the hold up note will reveal the address, the one written on the sheet above the bank holdup note, all because pressure created an indentation in the paper. Plus I do believe people sometimes check when they get rewards, certificates, etc.. to see if the signature is really hand-made, or printed, just by feeling the back for an indentation suggesting that someone was writing on the paper.

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  4. Electronic Signature Pads by chris+mazuc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What about the electronic signature pads in use at many stores, well, everywhere? I used to work at a 7-11, and I can tell you firsthand that the resolution *SUCKS* on these things. Nevermind that they don't take pressure readings. When we first got them my manager signed it with her real name, then "Micky Mouse". I couldn't tell the difference. It'd still be useful for things traditionally signed on paper (insurance policies, etc..), but as far as debit and credit transactions the majority (and a growing number of) of transactions will be unverifiable by this method.

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  5. Roland advertises his link whoring by jonknee · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Roland seemingly gets a Slashdot link to his trashy Radioland blog once every few days, all by stories he writes himself. I looked up a little about are friend here and he advertises that most of his traffic comes from Slashdot!
    This blog, Roland Piquepaille's Technology Trends attracts about 150,000 visitors per month, of which 60% come from Slashdot
    How lame is that? Here's a list of his recent articles on /.
  6. i'm a doctor by frankmu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and i can barely read my own signature!

    seriously, i sign hundreds of documents every day. what happens when i can't replicate my own writing?

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  7. Spouse's signature by chill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I sign my wife's name all the time, and she sometimes signs mine. All perfectly legal, as long as neither one disputes it.

    Simply claim you have power of attorney from your spouse. If, when asked, your spouse says "yes, I gave my permission", you're clear.

    Of course, you better be DAMN SURE your spouse is going to back you up.

    "yes, he did. Same way he gave me permission to sign his name on the check buying the mink coat..."

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  8. Re:I would be scared by fbform · · Score: 5, Interesting

    a video of me performing the signature as well as paper samples

    I remember watching some signature-detection algorithm on BBC (program was QED actually) a while back which involved a fine grid on which you sign with a touch-pen. The hardware was pretty standard, like the pad which the UPS delivery guy carries around. The algorithm recorded which pixel was toggled (pressed) at what time; it compared this time-delay information to a known good signature time sequence, adjusting for spatial and temporal offsets. And then of course it also did a standard pattern-match between the final signatures. The advantage was that it could easily detect your normal signature from a slowly forged one, even if the end results looked identical. As I recall, it did not give *any* false positives at all under the test runs, but it did reject your own signature a little too often for it to be used widely.

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  9. Slightly off-topic - countries with no signatures by Tarq666 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I live in Japan and for most legal documents you require a 'hanko' or 'personal seal' (and no...not the type you'll find at Sea World). Most people have several (as do I) and use simple shop purchased, made in bulk, seals for daily business, and a professionally made one for official business (Bank loans, lease agreements etc). The professional ones are difficult (but not impossible) to copy. I had one made several years ago and I take VERY good care of it as anyone can pick it up and stamp it on a document and legally it is the same as if I had stamped the document.

    The system is ancient but wide open to abuse. Several years ago a woman returned from holidays to discover that she had been married to her workmate. He had simply obtained all the paperwork, stamped it with his own seal and then having taken hers from her drawer, stamped it with her seal as well. The marriage was anulled, but the point is the personal seal is a little dangerous in my opinion.

    Anyway, as a result, very few people I know in Japan has what I would call a signature, that is something that you write almost the same way each time. My own signature varies each time I write it an in fact has shrunk over the years, but always contains elements that appear to be hard wired into my hand and brain now. Even if I use a different grip, or even the wrong hand, the pattern is similar (thought obviously different). When my students try to sign something, they usually very neatly write their name in English.

  10. Re:I would be scared by Nugget · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reminds me of the time a cow-orker of mine was locked out of the server room for a week because he cut his finger and couldn't use the fingerprint scanner while it healed. :)