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Two New Saturnian Moons

Mixel writes "NASA's Cassini spacecraft, which has been orbiting saturn since the 30th of June has uncovered two previously unknown bodies. 'The moons are approximately 3 kilometers (2 miles) and 4 kilometers (2.5 miles) across -- smaller than the city of Boulder, Colorado.' The Huygens probe will be deployed to the large (bigger than Mercury!) yet mysterious moon, Titan, in December."

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  1. olbigatory quote by m1kesm1th · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats no moon...

    sorry, sorry... I'll get my quote, I mean coat.

    1. Re:olbigatory quote by skyman8081 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thats no moon...

      sorry, sorry... I'll get my quote, I mean coat.

      you mean This moon?
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  2. Millions of Moons by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Saturn actually has millions of moons if you count the boulders in the rings. If you don't count them, then where is the cut-off point? This debate has never been settled, and may require an arbitrary cut-off size to get a clean definition.

    1. Re:Millions of Moons by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      there's a problem at the other end of the scale too: our moon, the Moon, is so big that the Earth-Moon system could/should be considered a double-planet system.

      I have heard a pretty good definition with the average center of orbit between the two bodies being inside the body of one of the pair. Our moon barely cuts it as a moon under this definition, but does, IIRC. However, such a definition does not work well with gasious planets since their boundary is fuzzy. But, it works pretty good with rocky bodies, at least fairly round ones.

  3. Re:One small step... by shfted! · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not quite. It's very likely a good jump or powerful stride would send you flying off into space, as a moon of that size would likely have a very low gravity.

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  4. Dammit! by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why must everything be compared to Boulder, Colorado?

  5. Re:Can these really be called moons? by F13 · · Score: 5, Informative
    How about natural satellite

  6. Are they really moons? by Anti+Frozt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Where do we draw the line between classifying a stellar body as a moon or an asteroid? Do we simply base it on the fact that it's a piece of rock orbiting a planet or is there some other defining characteristic?

    Ceres, the largest asteroid in our solar system, has a diameter ~950 Km in length, much larger than many of the so-called moons we've discovered.

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    1. Re:Are they really moons? by servognome · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Moons orbit planets, asteroids orbit the sun.
      There does need to be some cutoff at where something is considered a moon and where its just a rock going around a planet, otherwise all the stuff in Saturn's ring could be considered moons... hmm maybe I could name one "Servognome" and request a goverment grant of $50,000 to study the rock^H^H^H^H moon.
      I think all this classification stuff probably has to do with how scientists can get more grant money. Kinda how there are 6 great lakes

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  7. Smaller than Boulder... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but bigger than Little Rock?

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  8. A couple of definitions by cy_a253 · · Score: 5, Informative

    A satellite is any object that orbits a planet, regardless of mass.

    A moon is any natural object that orbits a planet, again regardless of mass. (so probes and debris don't qualify)

    A planet is an object massive enough to become spherical under its own gravitationnal field, that orbits a star. An asteroid is any rocky object that orbits a star and doesn't qualify as a planet.

    A moon doesn't have to be spherical, so that's why the two irregular moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos (captured asteroids), are still called moons. The rings of saturn are made up of millions of small "moons", but they are (rightfully so) considered a single entity.

  9. OMG! by BollocksToThis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Extra! Extra! Scientists find two tiny rocks millions of miles away! Many surprised they haven't been seen before now!

    An artists sketch of the new moons as seen from Earth through a high-powered telescope is shown here

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  10. Nanoo Nanoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    'The moons are approximately 3 kilometers (2 miles) and 4 kilometers (2.5 miles) across -- smaller than the city of Boulder, Colorado.'


    Even though they're orbiting Saturn, they're closer to Earth than Boulder, Colorado is.

    And by the way, we don't call them "moons" here in Boulder. We refer to them as "planetary companions."

    FYI: Boulder is where Mork and Mindy was set.
  11. Just Call them Boulder and Little Rock by Louis+Savain · · Score: 4, Funny

    They are provisionally named S/2004 S1 and S/2004 S2.

    Why? Just call them Boulder and Little Rock. But then again, maybe not. Some lawyer might sue. Do cities trademark their names?

  12. Re:But where did the RING SPOKES go? by blincoln · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is this guy onto something big, or is he delusional?

    If you read more than a few paragraphs of Hoagland's work, it becomes pretty obvious that the latter is the case.

    Hoagland is the one who is still obsessed with the "face on Mars," interprets JPEG image artifacts as proof of aliens, and so on.

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  13. What is a Moon? by jebiester · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a very interesting article at space.com entitled 'What is a Moon?'.

  14. finally a sensible measurement system - "VBR" by jpellino · · Score: 4, Funny

    we now have a third metric to add to the existing system of measuring everything in pop news stories in "volkswagens" and "rhodeislands" (1), we can now hit that middle mark, "boulders", though it's not so middle...

    the conversions for the VBR go something like this (2):

    beetle ('classic' at 160" x 60" = 9,600 sq in = 66.67 sq ft footprint
    boulder = 25 sq mi = 696,960,000 sq ft
    rhode island = 1,214 sq mi = 33,844,377,600 sq ft

    which means

    10,453,877 beetles in a boulder
    48.56 boulders in a rhodeisland
    507,640,282 beetles in a rhodeisland

    which would make a hellova traffic jam (3)

    (1) also haven't read the journals of irrepreoducible results / AIR for a while so this could all seem cribbed - sorry if so

    (2) (check my math, it's early still)

    (3) virtually no change to downtown newport in the summer however

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  15. ObPython [Re:hurm] by ModMeFlamebait · · Score: 4, Funny

    If any unmodified* human, can achieve escape veolocity under it's own power**, then it's not a moon.

    African or European?

    Now feel free to mod me down ;)

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