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RPOW - Reusable Proofs of Work

mitd writes "Hal Finney is inviting folks to test drive his new hashcash-based server rpow.net. " The RPOW system provides for proof of work (POW) tokens to be reused. A POW token is something that takes a relatively long time to compute but which can be checked quickly." Hal's security model paper is well worth the read and his proof of concept code is available for download. "

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  1. Re:Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Spammers send millions of email a second, imagine if for every email they had to do some sums that took 2 seconds, before the server would accept the email...suddenly the rate of emails per second falls.....

  2. Cache by Klar · · Score: 4, Informative
  3. Isn't it obvious? by BubbaThePirate · · Score: 5, Informative
    A POW token is something that takes a relatively long time to compute but which can be slashdotted quickly.

    But seriously, the server went down after two replies, but not before I managed to get this:

    [Read this instead adding a load to a battered server]

    "Overview

    The RPOW server is designed to provide security and reliability through an unprecedented degree of visibility and transparency in its operations. For the first time it will be possible for any user of the system, anywhere in the world, to know what code is running on the server and to inspect that code for loopholes or back doors. I have done my best to make this system secure even against my efforts as the owner, operator and designer of the system to compromise its operations. I welcome public scrutiny of the code and of the design.

    The RPOW system represents a new kind of security model, and is therefore unusually challenging to present and to review. RPOW combines an exceptional degree of physical security with an unprecedented level of transparency and visibility into the workings of the RPOW server. This combination implements the design goal of RPOW as a "Transparent Server", a system whose security properties can be analyzed and evaluated from any system on the internet.

    In operation, the RPOW system consists of three parts: the server, the host process, and the client library with its associated demo driver. We will consider each part in turn. "

    and this

    "RPOW FAQs

    Questions

    1. What is the RPOW system?
    2. How is RPOW pronounced?
    3. How do I know the RPOW system is secure?
    4. What is the difference between RPOW and Hashcash?
    5. What is the difference between RPOW and Ecash?
    6. What are some possible applications of the RPOW system?
    7. How fast is the server?
    8. If RPOW becomes popular, how could one server handle all the users?
    9. Won't Moore's Law mean that tokens lose their value over time?
    10. Why can't users pass RPOW tokens to each other without using a server?
    11. Won't the RPOW server run out of disk space if it keeps track of all tokens it has ever seen?
    12. Are you going to make changes to the RPOW system?
    13. Why did you choose the IBM4758 Secure Cryptographic Coprocessor as the platform for the RPOW server?
    14. Wasn't the IBM 4758 security broken a few years ago?

    Answers

    1. The RPOW system has three parts: client, host, and server. The client is a software library (plus a simple command-line driver for demonstration purposes) to allow generation and exchange of RPOW tokens. The host software runs on the PC which has the IBM 4758 cryptographic coprocessor card plugged into it. It acts as an intermediary, listening for connections from the net and passing data between client and server. It also assists the server with certain operations. The server runs on the IBM 4758 card and performs the secure cryptographic operations which implement the RPOW system.

    2. RPOW is pronounced are-pow.

    3. The security of the RPOW system ultimately depends on its design and its implementation. For the design, see the theory and security pages. For the implementation, see the source code available from the download page. The unique properties of the RPOW system design allow you to remotely verify that the program generated from the source code you download here is what is actually running on the RPOW server. If the design and implementation are sound, and that program is what is running on the server, you have a foundation for trust in the security of the system.

    4. RPOW uses hashcash for its proof of work (POW) tokens. Hashcash tokens are evidence that a certain substantial amount of computer effort was expended to create them. RPOW allows hashcash tokens to be exchanged for RPOW tokens of an equivalent value, which can then be further exchanged for new RPOW tokens. The effect is similar to being able to pass

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  4. Re:Umm by baywulf · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is essentially a computer algorithm that is time consuming to calculate but fast to verify. It can be used to mitigate denial of service attacks for example. When a connection is made, the server will make a challenge which the client must compute. The server can quickly verify the response and reject the client if it is wrong. The extra computation means the client cannot succeed in an attempt to connect without doing the challenge thus slowing them down.

  5. Re:Umm by nova20 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can someone explain the concept behind this in a little uhh easier terms.

    Here's how I understand it:

    Imagine you have to do a research paper. Though it takes a long time to write this research paper, what you turn in to your professor is (relatively) quickly checked. The paper itself is like a POW token -- It proves that you did the work without you having to redo the work while the teacher is watching.

    -nova20

  6. Spammers don't send their spam by Albanach · · Score: 4, Informative
    Spammers don't send spam, unpatched windows boxes do. Loads of folk here must be getting calls form folk saying "my net connection's slow" you take a look and the machine is infested.

    All this means is that, as well as the net connection being slow, the processor will be running overtime calculating the checksums. The spammers will send as many emails as ever.

    SPF has to be one of the easiest measures we can take to reduce spam. Spamassassin is about to hit 3.0 RC1 and many more of us will be able to easily associate scores with SPF records. As soon as mail has to originate from the correct domain we get better spam checking and a paper trail for the authorities to follow. If you don't have SPF records for your domain, head on over here or here and set them up.

  7. Re:Huh? by ifdef · · Score: 4, Informative

    As I read through the comments on this article, there are a few that seem to indicate that the poster was completely clueless. And then, when I look more closely, I see that all of them were posted by the same person.

    Yes, I know that I shouldn't post replies like this, but this is getting annoying. Quite a few people have posted explanations about what this technology could be useful for. Make an effort to understand it, instead of continuing to post "I don't understand" comments.

    You said: "Noone's going to install dedicated IBM crypto hardware in their mailservers. No company is going to invest big bucks in a mailserver just so it can run 100% CPU utilization all the time for no good reason. That costs actual real world money, and continues to cost in power usage."

    That's absolutely right, and that's the whole POINT of POW tokens. If you are going to send one or two emails, it won't bother you all that much that your computer has to perform a few seconds of computation before your email gets accepted. If you are a spammer and you want to send a MILLION emails, then your computer would have to perform a few million seconds of computation, which would either slow you down tremendously OR force you to pay real money to buy lots of fast computers and power them.

    The problem with the CURRENT model of email is that the sender does not have to pay anything to send spam, so they can send millions of them, and it's still worthwhile if they get one reply in ten thousand attempts. But if they had to pay something to send each spam, they would send less.

    Junk snail mail senders have to pay for postage, and so, even though they may be annoying, they are not the same kind of problem as spammers are. They tend to send out flyers only for things that they expect to get SOME response for.

    You also said "So spammers spam each other (or themselves from a different host) and have an endless supply of RPOW tokens." Again, you've missed the point. If they spam each other, then yes, the recipient now has the ability to send out the same amount of spam, but the sender has used up his tokens by transferring them to the sender. No new POW tokens are created by this process. If I give you $10 and you give me $10, we're NOT both $10 dollars richer -- what I gave you, I no longer have. And if we pass the $10 bill back and forth 100 times, we haven't somehow created $1000 for each of us to spend; we still have the same amount of money that we started with.

    And your point about us not wanting secure hardware on our machines is irrelevant. Nothing in this idea implies that you should have secure hardware on your machine. It can all be done in software, open source software (or any other kind).

  8. Re:Proof-of-work tokens as an anti-spam measure? by dpilot · · Score: 4, Informative

    The RPOW website is really easier to understand if you first read the hashcash website it point to. So let's talk first about hashcash, since RPOW is mostly an extension.

    With hashcash, I take a datestamp, the recipient's address, and some garbage characters, and put them in an X-hashcash header as part of the email. The garbage characters have been precalculated to give some number of '0's at the front of an SHA1 hash of the header. It's computationally expensive to force those '0's, the more '0's, the higher the expense. (The hashcash site mentioned 4 hours to produce 32 '0's on his system.) But it's cheap to verify that those '0's are there in the hash of the header. That's what makes the system work.

    There is no challenge-response in hashcash. You publish a 'price', some number of hashcash '0's, to receive email. If the email is in you whitelist (and presumably has a good SPF) call it good. Call other mail without an X-hashcash header spam. You can then validate the X-hashcash headers on your system. Valid headers are stored, and since they contain a datestamp in cleartext, you can purge them after some interval. Note that you only store valid headers, and only for a limited time, so the database doesn't grow forever.

    Hashcash requires no central server or database.

    RPOW works off of hashcash. You make a hashcash 'stamp' and trade it in for a RPOW token. Since the RPOW lets that original computational effort be reused, it lets you up the 'price'. ie - require more '0's in the hash.

    I haven't read the documentation thoroughly, but I suspect that RPOW is validated at the server, not by challenge/response. But remember that each RPOW ticket is used only once, and once shown secure, there wouldn't be a lot of attempts at spoofing. So the traffic volume (and server requirements) should remain reasonable. In other words, the server traffic would be related to the level of legitimate email, not the level of spam. Oh, when you check the RPOW with the server, it hands back a new RPOW that you can use to send email. As far as I can tell, there is no theoretical (only practical) lifetime limit to the tokens.

    I'm less enthusiastic about RPOW than hashcash, simply because of the central server requirement. I also wonder/fear about the feasibility of building an SHA1 engine out of FPGAs that could precalculate stamps faster than any regular PC, and then distribute them to spambots for mailing.

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